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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:42 AM
With IL2, you very nicely gave us properly rolled out, albeit imperfect patches over time. That was great, and eventually, a spectacular product resulted.

Why, after such great success, and after building up a following of impressed users through that process, are you now "leaking" patches, and now updates to leaked patches, when you could just release this beta as exactly that, a beta, and then update it later?

What's the matter, too hard to put updates on your own web site?

As a techie that goes through complex processes on a daily basis to update various types of software apps, this latest "rollout" of yours just has me scratching my head.

Back in the IL2 days, rolling out patches wasn't rocket science. Now it's become a conspiracy where the only way to find files is to hang out on [non UBI] Hyperlobby...

Great stuff.

Oleg, I respect the work you do greatly, I just can't believe the dis-service the "messenger" UBI is doing in the delivery department...



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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:42 AM
With IL2, you very nicely gave us properly rolled out, albeit imperfect patches over time. That was great, and eventually, a spectacular product resulted.

Why, after such great success, and after building up a following of impressed users through that process, are you now "leaking" patches, and now updates to leaked patches, when you could just release this beta as exactly that, a beta, and then update it later?

What's the matter, too hard to put updates on your own web site?

As a techie that goes through complex processes on a daily basis to update various types of software apps, this latest "rollout" of yours just has me scratching my head.

Back in the IL2 days, rolling out patches wasn't rocket science. Now it's become a conspiracy where the only way to find files is to hang out on [non UBI] Hyperlobby...

Great stuff.

Oleg, I respect the work you do greatly, I just can't believe the dis-service the "messenger" UBI is doing in the delivery department...



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11-07-2003, 03:44 AM
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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:45 AM
OBIGB!

Out before I get bored...



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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:46 AM
Pull my finger! Dont value that opinion so much there Dex.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:49 AM
rummyrum wrote:
- Pull my finger! Dont value that opinion so much
- there Dex.
-
-

Luckily, this community has gone the way of UBI's patch processes, and now I remember why I don't waste my time here anymore.


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adlabs6
11-07-2003, 03:54 AM
It hasn't been completely terrible IMO, but I really don't understand today's events, much less how this could go on in the first place.

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Hunter82
11-07-2003, 04:02 AM
When did you become such a bitter a$$ Dex?


Lets see you:

downloaded a leaked beta and biatch...check

try and download a official release by 1C not UBI and biatch Check


You blame UBI for everything...including pianist size.....check /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


complain the community here has gone some way you and a few vocal minority disagree with....check


Take your ball and go home to the promised land with some others with pianist issues because the evil empire does not see it their way....check


STFU and wait for 1.2 and keep the stupid UBI comments to yourself..... uncheck



blame whomever you want for whatever but that warped vision on UBI and their handling of stuff is kind of comical....

Frankly UBI has the best support out on most of their titles.

Go check MS or EA or any other company and compare.


Ban you? You haven't done anything...


Christ in my business I ask customers like you to find another supplier /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif




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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 04:06 AM
Did anyone else see Dex actually render a compliment?

OK what have you done with Dex and where is his gnarled and bitter-visaged corpse buried?



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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 04:18 AM
Thanks for the support Hunter. It's just my opinion, and the bitterness comes from the fact that someone's mismanagement of a previously good title resulted in my unfortunate moving on. I got tired of a) waiting, and now b) trying to figure out how to keep FB updated.

Everyone's playing online with leaked patches, this forum is full of tips on how to install leaked patches, and I'm supposed to have respect for the process? Not the way I see it.

To each their own. I'd just like to see 1.2b with the latest update rolled out by UBI instead of posted like it's a use-at-your-own-risk-because-we-don't-care-to-create-a-formal-download release...

Simply comparing IL2 to FB. Night and day is all.





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Hunter82
11-07-2003, 04:22 AM
Oleg released it today AFAIK UBI does not have a copy/uploaded who knows maybe in the AM?

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11-07-2003, 04:22 AM
and I added alot of winks you tool


Dexmeister wrote:
- Thanks for the support Hunter.

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 04:50 AM
Hunter82 wrote:
- You blame UBI for everything...including pianist
- size.....


Which reminds me...... I guy walks into a bar with a footlong box under his arm and a big black bag. He sits down and orders a double whiskey... The man looks like he has been through the mill. He scrounges around in his pocket and pulls out a crumpled up wad of bills and peels off a few to pay the bartender. The bartender sees the guy is obviously going through some tough times so he strikes up a conversation with the guy. The man tosses back drink after drink and before you know it the man is out of money and has a hefty tab to boot. The guy asks the bartender for another drink and of course the bartender refuses him. At this point the guy says to the bartender..."Look buddy.... I will show you something the likes of which you have never seen I got it right here in this bag..." He said, patting the bag with his hand. He reaches into the bag and pulls out a miniature piano and puts it on the bar and looks triumphantly at the bartender. The bartender looks at him and says angrily ..."OK buddy thats enough get out of my bar... I ain't interested in no toy piano!!" But the guy just sits there smiling........he picks up the box and opens it...and out steps a little foot long man wearing a black tux with tails and a bow tie. As soon as the little man steps out of the box he goes over to the piano sits down and starts to play the most incredible music the bartender had ever heard. Bach, Beethoven, Motzart, Rachmaninoff...all the classics and flawlessly!!! The bartender is utterly and absolutely amazed. "You could make a fortune on TV with this!!!" says the barteder. "I've tried!!" says the man..."No network will touch it!!! They say it is too mundane...no sex...no violence...wont sell...""I lost my house, my wife left me,I gave up my job..I thought it would be a shoo in.....but no go!!.....""Now how about that drink......." The bartender reaches for his top shelf whisky and pours the man a glass, while never taking his eyes off the little man who was still playing feverishly on the piano..his hands racing up and down the keyboard making flawless, perfect music. "Well.....where did you find this guy??!!!" The bartender asked. "I was walking down the beach and I found this bottle." He said. Then he reached into the bag and pulled out what looked to be an ancient bottle. "When I tried to clean it off this Geni pops out and says he will grant me one wish....just one.." "Jeeeze...and this is what you wish for...too bad it didnt work out for you..." Said the bartender as he poured more whiskey into the man's glass. "So ummmmm what do you do with the bottle...I mean you got no more wishes?" "Nope that's it" Said the man..."Just one......" then he took a hard swig of the liquor. "Say listen.." Said the bartender "Would you sell that bottle to me? I mean I can make it worth your while.............." He said to the now totally plastered man. The man ha;lf fell off the stool and said to the bartender."H@ll... I'll GIVE it to you!!! Here take it...it's yours......" Then he handed the bottle to the bartender. The bartender rubbed the lamp and out co9mes this old geni..."Your wish is my command master" the geni said. "But you must come closer and whisper your wish in my ear" "No problem" the bartender said as he almost fell over getting to the geni's side. He whispered in the geni's ear and stepped back. The geni closed his eyes, raise his arms and suddenly the bar was filled with ducks. Ducks everywhere. Ducksf flying into the mirrors, breaking the glass, bleeding, $hitting, crashing everywhere in a frenzy. The bartender looked like he was about to have a stroke. He began screaming at thr geni as he began to pour himself back into the bottle.."You IDIOT!! What kind of f@cking Geni are you!! I asked for 100,000,000 bucks!!! BUCKS!!!!! Not ducks!!!!!! At which point the man looked at the bartender and said....."Oh yeah...I forgot to tell you...this geni...he don't hear so good.....what..you think I asked for a 12 inch pianist?"


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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 04:54 AM
Personally, I'm just happy to play the leak and whenever 1C/UBI put up an official download I'll restore my FB and apply the patch. I don't really see all the drama here but that's just me.




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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 05:15 AM
Its not just you Prik. We could get nothing...nada...zip. FB can run from a folder so a copy can be made and the patches applied there. Lots of drama queens around these days.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 05:32 AM
Hunter82 wrote:
- Oleg released it today AFAIK UBI does not have a
- copy/uploaded who knows maybe in the AM?
-

Wait, 1.2 Official is out?????

Who? What? Where? When?

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 09:03 AM
Over at the ORR Harry

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 09:26 AM
I'm confused.

Don't worry, I was like that when I arrived.

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11-07-2003, 10:30 AM
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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 10:47 AM
I think I remember when you first entered into Netwings Dex. CFS3 just came out and it was time for you to become a part of the community. It wasn't long before you became the man and CFS3, with all its problems, was your sim. A sim good enough for you to buy a real deal setup with your Parhelia and put your trust in Matrox, when they were still considered almost a real video card manufacturer.

I've been here for about 4 months. In the handful of posts you've initiated in this forum there's been an arrogance toward Oleg and Ubi that would be hard to match even from some of the worst whiners and bastards here.

If you still enjoy M$'s game, "support" and YOUR community, go back to Netwings. I've played both, I know which is better and that's why I'm here. If you believe FB is as good or better than understand what a hypocrite is, get off your high horse and enjoy the freaken game.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 02:19 PM
I guess if I just bowed down and said "I love FB", "the patches being leaked is a great plan", and otherwise bit my tongue, join the ranks of the FB "yes"-men, then you'd all love me again, right?

"So glad the patches are getting leaked out". My life is now so enriched. "Way to go UBI, you're the best".

Oh, but then I remember I still have balls and an opinion.




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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 02:32 PM
I don't think Oleg leaks his own patches. Do you? The fact is that they are leaked, and Oleg tries to make a good thing out of it by allowing people to beta test them if possible since he knows many people are going to use them.

It's just a matter of trying to turn a bad situation (leaked patch) into a positive one (getting user feedback).

If you don't like it, why not do as hunter said and STFU until the official patch comes out on Ubi's site so you can dl it. Or better yet, wait official patches for CFS 3.

Nic



Message Edited on 11/07/0302:35PM by nicolas10

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 02:52 PM
it is bad for ubi 1c to do such things and theres alot of fninpi$$ed people, Not 1 person successfully downloaded rc02 was it done intentionally who knows, but it has screwed up things and will be for at least 3 days having 3 seperate versions floating around on HL

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11-07-2003, 03:20 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- it is bad for ubi 1c to do such things and theres
- alot of fninpi$$ed people, Not 1 person successfully
- downloaded rc02 was it done intentionally who knows,
- but it has screwed up things and will be for at
- least 3 days having 3 seperate versions floating
- around on HL

For maybe a couple hundred persons maximum. Compareed to how many Fb customers? Many of whom will benefit from the 1.2 patch.

Besides I don't know how those who use leaked (illegal) betas dare complain that there are so many versions of Il2 out there. Sheesh!

Nic

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:21 PM
Yoooo Dex.... This explains everything

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=ywfqf

Rember the last patch nightmare? Wasent it a National holiday as well? Im working on the conspiracy theory myself /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

These things are agravating but they alwayes work themselves out in the long run...Dosent make me feal much better right now tho!

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:25 PM
Am I disappointed by the link failure and anxious to download the 02? Yes. But more than that I'm thankful for what I have been provided and guess I'll just be patient and wait it out until a solid link is established. I'll check the major forums after work and hope this has been cleared up. Actually, I was quite impressed Oleg made his post and tried to let this community participate in an open-beta. That gesture said a lot.

Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:32 PM
nicolas10 wrote:
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- Besides I don't know how those who use leaked
- (illegal) betas dare complain that there are so many
- versions of Il2 out there. Sheesh!


NIC there not Illegal its going to be a free PATCH its not Illegal nic.... and its not an accident that it got leaked either belive that...

Assume you worked for Oleg and had access to the patch...

Would you risk your Great Job to Leak the patch if it was agenst Olegs wishes HELL NO!!!!!!!...........


Come on man its obviouse and its not illegal

it was leaked on purpose now smell the flowers /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 03:37 PM
AFJ_Locust wrote:
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- nicolas10 wrote:
--
-- Besides I don't know how those who use leaked
-- (illegal) betas dare complain that there are so many
-- versions of Il2 out there. Sheesh!
-
-
- NIC there not Illegal its going to be a free PATCH
- its not Illegal nic.... and its not an accident that
- it got leaked either belive that...
-
- Assume you worked for Oleg and had access to the
- patch...
-
- Would you risk your Great Job to Leak the patch if
- it was agenst Olegs wishes HELL NO!!!!!!!...........
-
-
- Come on man its obviouse and its not illegal
-
- it was leaked on purpose now smell the flowers

Ok change my word to unofficial then.

Either way people know that beta is for test only. If they can't be bothered to put up with what it implies, they can stick to the 1.11 version and wait for the release of the official patch.

Nic

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 04:07 PM
YEEESHH! I'm glad I didn't seriously concider DLing the "officially" released beta then. What with all the problems ppl are having. I'll stick to 1.11 till the real deal comes along. I know it might be a while but I'd rather have easy access to something that I know is finished.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 08:36 PM
Nic wrote:
Either way people know that beta is for test only. If they can't be bothered to put up with what it implies, they can stick to the 1.11 version and wait for the release of the official patch.

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 09:25 PM
Patience my friends. Patience.
Obviously a virtue that few possess.

XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 10:25 PM
Dex, you just keep telling yourself that your the only one with balls and an opinion and you'll feel much better about yourself or maybe not feel so dumb about your reaction to something that is a non-issue. How much balls does it take to whine about everything?

I'm frankly a bit taken aback by your attitude lately but whatever, maybe you just need to vent.

I'll call a spade a spade but really, what's the big deal that Oleg is offering some of us the opportunity to have some input into the next patch. Nobody is forcing you to do anything but wait till Monday for the official one but I'm sure you'll scream bloody murder if it was Tuesday.

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XyZspineZyX
11-07-2003, 11:56 PM
Always remember"to err is human but ot takes a computer to really foul things up" OK so the links to rc02 are bad or the dl is bad thats life soon all will be well in fb land till the next patch is almost ready for release. Sit back take a deep breath have a beer or what ever just relax!!
I'm patient and will wait for the official patch, think i'll have a few while i wait