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knightflyte
07-14-2005, 09:41 PM
I've had my peddles for a few days now and am getting more in touch with the finese it takes to control rhe plane well.

Tonight it hit.... Everything aligned.... I could feel just how much rudder to track the enemy. I could feel just when and how much to give to cut the corner sharper than my foe.....

Anyone who has rudder peddles I think has experienced the UTTER DIFFERENCE in control from twisty or rocker sticks. It's RUDDER NIRVANA!!!! I sat there with a grin. Dang I wish I could explain it. It IS an awesome feeling.

knightflyte
07-14-2005, 09:41 PM
I've had my peddles for a few days now and am getting more in touch with the finese it takes to control rhe plane well.

Tonight it hit.... Everything aligned.... I could feel just how much rudder to track the enemy. I could feel just when and how much to give to cut the corner sharper than my foe.....

Anyone who has rudder peddles I think has experienced the UTTER DIFFERENCE in control from twisty or rocker sticks. It's RUDDER NIRVANA!!!! I sat there with a grin. Dang I wish I could explain it. It IS an awesome feeling.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-14-2005, 10:33 PM
Welcome to...the other side. Nice aint it?

han freak solo
07-14-2005, 10:44 PM
Ahhh, you have taken the red pill, Neo.

AerialTarget
07-14-2005, 11:50 PM
Yes! That is, as I always say, why real airplanes have pedals and not twisty sticks.

Fehler
07-15-2005, 01:13 AM
Pedalz are da bomb!

But I cant get mine to play any Nirvana.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Winter-Storm
07-15-2005, 01:18 AM
Did you modify the YAW axis in the input setup and if so what values do you use?

Tvrdi
07-15-2005, 01:32 AM
I wonder how it would be if I had TrackIR and rudder pedals...I mean i can still bring down anybody since i have 4yrs of experience but i think the things mentioned above are really nice advantage...bloody hardware http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I could buy those but since I must spare money for newer used car..khm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

IvanoBulo
07-15-2005, 01:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
I wonder how it would be if I had TrackIR and rudder pedals...I mean i can still bring down anybody since i have 4yrs of experience but i think the things mentioned above are really nice advantage...bloody hardware http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I could buy those but since I must spare money for newer used car..khm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm using TrackIR 3 Pro and these pedals:
http://luzyanin.pisem.net/images/pedals.jpg
I wouldn't say that it is advantage - it is just different http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You should be well coordinated to use all these controllers together. Just imagine that both my hands, head and both legs are used to play the game!
The only thing I'm missing is a good joystick... But I'm going to buy it soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jurinko
07-15-2005, 02:16 AM
http://www.scitech.sk/~jurinko/pedal01.JPG

I can say only - if you have pedals, there is never enough torque http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-15-2005, 02:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IvanoBulo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
I wonder how it would be if I had TrackIR and rudder pedals...I mean i can still bring down anybody since i have 4yrs of experience but i think the things mentioned above are really nice advantage...bloody hardware http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I could buy those but since I must spare money for newer used car..khm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm using TrackIR 3 Pro and these pedals:
http://luzyanin.pisem.net/images/pedals.jpg
I wouldn't say that it is advantage - it is just different http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You should be well coordinated to use all these controllers together. Just imagine that both my hands, head and both legs are used to play the game!
The only thing I'm missing is a good joystick... But I'm going to buy it soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Those are some pretty heavy duty pedals mate I have some analogue chpro's and they work well but those babie you got there look like they would give you a real work out.

What make/brand are they?

IvanoBulo
07-15-2005, 03:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tHeBaLrOgRoCkS:
Those are some pretty heavy duty pedals mate I have some analogue chpro's and they work well but those babie you got there look like they would give you a real work out.

What make/brand are they? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These pedals made by the guy from Minsk (Belarus). They are fully made from metal (9kg weight) with very precise sensors. The cost at the moment I purchase them was 194$ plus delivery. But they are worth this price! Mine pedals from second consignment he made. Right now as far as I know he is developing fifth. Since I purchased he developed new centering mechanism and planning to add analogue brakes so maybe I'll upgrade mine with newer version.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-15-2005, 03:42 AM
Nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Well they sure look like a serious piece of kit thanks for the info http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fehler
07-15-2005, 03:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jurinko:
http://www.scitech.sk/~jurinko/pedal01.JPG

I can say only - if you have pedals, there is never enough torque http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jurinko.. you need to wash yo nasty feets! Look at those stains you left!!! ROFL! Nice homemade setup!

rnzoli
07-15-2005, 04:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fehler:
Jurinko.. you need to wash yo nasty feets! Look at those stains you left!!! ROFL! Nice homemade setup! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

rnzoli
07-15-2005, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by knightflyte:
Tonight it hit.... Everything aligned.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I had a total confusion for 3-4 days. I was mixing up left and right, reverted to twisting the poor stick, oscillated left and right during take-offs and landings etc.

Then, I lost both ailerons on my La-5 due to a high altitude dive, and had to land using rudders instead. It took 2 approach attempts (on the first, I missed and went around), but after landing on the runway....I felt something similar to what you described. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

This "exercise" I can recommend for everyone going from twist to pedals.

knightflyte
07-15-2005, 02:19 PM
Man that's NOT easy to do at landing speeds, Lining up the runway with out stalling, or over torquing the engine while only having rudder/elevator authority..... I'll have to try that.

I haven't messed with the input settings yet, Winter. I wanted to try all my favorite planes before messing with inputs. There's definitely a few who's values will be lowered. I-16 for one.

Slechtvalk
07-15-2005, 02:23 PM
Must.. must.. buy rudders, rudders.. must buy. Rudders..

Rudders.

AerialTarget
07-15-2005, 03:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IvanoBulo:
These pedals made by the guy from Minsk (Belarus). They are fully made from metal (9kg weight) with very precise sensors. The cost at the moment I purchase them was 194$ plus delivery. But they are worth this price! Mine pedals from second consignment he made. Right now as far as I know he is developing fifth. Since I purchased he developed new centering mechanism and planning to add analogue brakes so maybe I'll upgrade mine with newer version. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you tell me how I can contact this guy? I am pretty fed up with CH Pro Pedals; they are far too close together, they center funny, and are made of plastic. Moreover, they cost almost as much as yours.

Of course, CH Pro Pedals do have rudders, but they aren't much use in Pacific Fighters with its incorrect universal modelling of the Russian brake system, especially since after the patch there is no place for small applications of brake.

guenter332
07-20-2005, 06:23 AM
I'm contemplating putting a set of homemade rudder pedals together. Jurinko, how do you get IL-2 to recognize two controllers? (I have an X-45). Is your setup a USB connection? I was planning to pinout of the gameport.

WOLFMondo
07-20-2005, 06:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
AerialTarget

Can you tell me how I can contact this guy? I am pretty fed up with CH Pro Pedals; they are far too close together, they center funny, and are made of plastic. Moreover, they cost almost as much as yours. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I really like mine, you got fat thighs or something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

IvanoBulo
07-20-2005, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AerialTarget:
Can you tell me how I can contact this guy? I am pretty fed up with CH Pro Pedals; they are far too close together, they center funny, and are made of plastic. Moreover, they cost almost as much as yours.

Of course, CH Pro Pedals do have rudders, but they aren't much use in Pacific Fighters with its incorrect universal modelling of the Russian brake system, especially since after the patch there is no place for small applications of brake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There is a thread on Sukhoi.ru where you can make request: pedals thread (http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=33361&page=1&pp=25)
Althought it is a russian forum thus it is better if you just send him an email at uiv@tut.by