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Metabaron2005
06-22-2006, 05:13 PM
Hope that Oleg used the same system for BOB ...

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_frzoCZtEOIkAOS8BP88F;_ylu...c/clouds_lowband.wmv (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_frzoCZtEOIkAOS8BP88F;_ylu=X3oDMTA4OTFrc2R zBHNlYwNwbHly/SIG=13o0vlegn/EXP=1151097704/**http%3a//download.microsoft.com/download/3/a/6/3a608ad2-0aac-4d71-ba2b-00f9e6f05b1c/clouds_lowband.wmv)

Metabaron2005
06-22-2006, 05:13 PM
Hope that Oleg used the same system for BOB ...

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_frzoCZtEOIkAOS8BP88F;_ylu...c/clouds_lowband.wmv (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_frzoCZtEOIkAOS8BP88F;_ylu=X3oDMTA4OTFrc2R zBHNlYwNwbHly/SIG=13o0vlegn/EXP=1151097704/**http%3a//download.microsoft.com/download/3/a/6/3a608ad2-0aac-4d71-ba2b-00f9e6f05b1c/clouds_lowband.wmv)

DIRTY-MAC
06-22-2006, 05:24 PM
bump! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

major_setback
06-22-2006, 07:12 PM
I'm hoping we'll get even better clouds than those. They look like the ones in FS 2004 (or even FS 2002).

Here are some screenshots I took in FS2004 a while ago. You can set your own cloud layers at different altitudes, and also set humidity, rain, turbulence, wind...and set it to change through time.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FS2004040420akopia-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FS2004040609akopia.jpg

Bearcat99
06-22-2006, 09:44 PM
Woooooooo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

EiZ0N
06-22-2006, 09:45 PM
To be honest, I think the clouds we've got in 4.04 are great.

leitmotiv
06-23-2006, 12:19 AM
Uh, are these the clouds you get with FS9 right off the shelf, or did you buy some additional software for these, major_setback? I have just started reusing FS9 to be able to fly the British bombers from Alphasim, and I would like to fly through a cloudscape like you posted! Beautiful clouds.

major_setback
06-23-2006, 03:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Uh, are these the clouds you get with FS9 right off the shelf, or did you buy some additional software for these, major_setback? I have just started reusing FS9 to be able to fly the British bombers from Alphasim, and I would like to fly through a cloudscape like you posted! Beautiful clouds. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Those are standard clouds. They get more red towards evening just like in FB/PF.
You can even set many more layers to the clouds, having for example a higher layer of thinner (stratus?) clouds. You can set the height and thickness of each layer too. Yuo have to got to the weather options and then the 'advanced' section (I can't remember what it's called exactly). Try morning flights for nicer cloud effects too.

Try some of the preset flights, they already have nice clouds set. There's one specific flight that works as a demonstration of how the clouds look, if I remember righty.

Note: the scenery in the above screenshots is add-on.

Bobario
06-23-2006, 10:59 AM
They sure look nice. I`m sure I`ll have time to admire them whilst I`m hurtling towards the ground in a burning Beaufighter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

leitmotiv
06-23-2006, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the info, major_setback. I am setting up clouds, rain, snowstorms, and picturesque cloudscapes, and enjoying lumbering through all in a Alphasim Whitley---wish there was a way to blackout European cities for realistic cross-country flights in WWII.

Metabaron2005
06-23-2006, 05:22 PM
It woulb be realistic to fight in a WWII plane over modern highways.

leitmotiv
06-23-2006, 05:27 PM
Won't matter at 12,000 feet over cloud.

stansdds
06-24-2006, 06:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TommyAtkins1966:
They sure look nice. I`m sure I`ll have time to admire them whilst I`m hurtling towards the ground in a burning Beaufighter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, but you will look good passing through those nice, puffy, translucent clouds on the way to your firey death. And like Fernando said, "it is better to look good than to feel good and you look marvelous!"

jamesdietz
06-24-2006, 09:07 AM
Bumpulicious!

Bearcat99
06-24-2006, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EiZ0N:
To be honest, I think the clouds we've got in 4.04 are great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree... but I think we will see clouds like this in BoB... dont forget.....dynamic weather... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Daytraders
06-24-2006, 02:42 PM
the clouds we have now are awsome, if they dont change i will be pleased, you wont get much better, i have fs2004 and i prefer il2 clouds anyway.

EiZ0N
06-24-2006, 04:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EiZ0N:
To be honest, I think the clouds we've got in 4.04 are great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree... but I think we will see clouds like this in BoB... dont forget.....dynamic weather... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, BOB is going to have dynamic weather? I never even considered the possibility...

That'd be absolutely bloomin' great. Weather changes during an online battle.

major_setback
06-25-2006, 04:34 AM
More information on the clouds in FS2004 (FS9).

You can set the time of day and clouds while you're flying, just press the Alt key to pause the game and bring up the menus at the top of the screen. Select 'Weather', or it might be under 'World' &gt; 'Time and Season', 'Weather'.
You get more realistic clouds if you set the 'Visibility Distance' to 20-30 miles, giving a slight haze. This is a MUST!



Notes on my screenshots. Hardware settings in FS2004:

Go to 'Settings' on the FS2004 main page, and from there go to 'Display', then to 'Weather'. In the interface that apears on screen 'Global Weather Quality' should be set to 'Custom' if it isn't already set to that (this might only change to 'Custom' when you adjust the settings). These are the hardware changes I always use in FS2004:

* Sight Distance : 80 miles (this in not the same as 'Visibility distance', I think it sets a linit to how far away clouds will be rendered).

* Cloud Draw Distance : 80 miles.
3D Cloud Percentage : 100%

* Tick 'Detailed Clouds', and set 'Cloud Coverage Density' to maximum.

The screenshots were mostly taken over Wales (UK) over Llanbedr airfield in FS2004 (at a time of around 21.30 midsummer, if anyone wants to try to reproduce them).
I took the screenshots on my old system using an nVidea Ti4600 with 1 Gig of RAM. Some of the cloud-sets shown caused a very large drop in frame-rates on this slightly dated system. With one of the latest video cards though you would be able to fly in most of the cloud environments shown in the screenshots with good frame-rates.

The screenshots were taken with betweeen 3-6 layers of cloud. Some of the Better looking screenshots (like the one with the Spitfire posted below) actually only had 3 layers of cloud set. For the Spitfire screenshot I set one layer of Cumulus beween 3000-4000ft, one layer of 'Broken Stratus' between 9500-15000ft and one layer of 'Scattered Stratus' between 16500-45500ft.


More screenshots:

The Advanced Weather settings. You can reach these by pressing the Alt key (pauses the game):


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Namnlst-3kopiera.jpg

Llanbedr airfield in Wales (UK). (A Mustang for Bearcat's sake http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/07f15869.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Namnlst-4kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/424d021c.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/89b758a7.jpg

Canada I think.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/f3c168d9.jpg

UK (Wales):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/9b49ec04.jpg

One more:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Namnlst-5kopiera.jpg

The UK screenshots use add-on Photo scenery (UK VFR Photo scenery) as well as add-on 'Terrain Mesh' (improved height and topographical information for mountains/hills). These are frame-rate friendly add-ons, as FS2004 doesn't need to render any buildings, just the terrain.

The Canadian screenshot above uses add-on Terrain Mesh only.

Daytraders
06-25-2006, 06:57 AM
thx very nice screens m8, and the clouds there look alot better than my fs2004 clouds, but ive not messed around with options like you, i might try later.

willyvic
06-25-2006, 09:23 AM
Messed about a bit with your initial settings. Must say I am pleased by the results. I normally use real weather data but will keep experimenting with the in game weather settings. Thanks for the tips MS.

http://www.geocities.com/mompeepers/willyvic/lanc1.jpg

WillyVic

major_setback
06-25-2006, 03:41 PM
That's very nice willyvic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif. How did you get the yellow glow? I'd like to try that out.

Billy_BigBoy
06-25-2006, 04:56 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

and yes, the look like FS2004 for sure, but what I'm interested in is a cloud AI can NOT look through http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

willyvic
06-26-2006, 07:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
That's very nice willyvic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif. How did you get the yellow glow? I'd like to try that out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same airfield area with the following:

http://www.geocities.com/mompeepers/willyvic/GMT.jpg


And as you know, the shading changes as time goes by. This one about 10 minutes later.

http://www.geocities.com/mompeepers/willyvic/B17.jpg

Resolution at 1600x1200, everything else set at your previously posted settings. They do look good eh? Thanks for sparking my interest in fiddling about.

WillyVic

leitmotiv
06-26-2006, 07:42 AM
I am driving AlphaSim British bombers around night skies with loads of clouds and am happy as 50 clams. Thunder and lightning are terrific effects in FS2004. I am coming to the startling conclusion the FM is magnitudes tougher than Oleg's present (4.05). I am learning the kick is just flying well.

major_setback
06-26-2006, 11:00 AM
More clouds and mountains in FS2004:


I got the yellow colour to work.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dNamnlst-2kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dNamnlst-3kopiera.jpg

The estuary at Barmouth (UK):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dNamnlst-4kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dNamnlst-5kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dNamnlst-6kopiera.jpg

Alaska with the add-on scenery called 'FS Terrain':

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-1kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-2kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-4kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-5kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-6.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-7kopiera.jpg

Southern England using 'VFR Photographic Scenery' and 'VFR terrain':

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-8kopiera.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eNamnlst-9.jpg