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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 01:50 PM
cant believe Arnie is the new guvernor of california!

lol

bad luck USA!

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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 01:50 PM
cant believe Arnie is the new guvernor of california!

lol

bad luck USA!

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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 01:52 PM
Heard on the news this morning the law about non-American born citizens being unable to make President may be changing too.

Hence you could have the Terminator in the White House before too much longer.

Arnie or Dubya. Now there's a tough choice.

Cheers,

SSS

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 01:58 PM
SpinSpinSugar wrote:
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- Heard on the news this morning the law about
- non-American born citizens being unable to make
- President may be changing too.
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I highly doubt that as I believe it would require a change in the Constution.

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 01:59 PM
A case of fact being stranger than fiction!

I'd never join a club that would have ME as a member!!.

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:02 PM
SpinSpinSugar wrote:
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- Heard on the news this morning the law about
- non-American born citizens being unable to make
- President may be changing too.

Somehow I don't see that happening in my lifetime. To many drastic changes would need to occur. Also, the idea of a foreign born President from Austria has never worked out historically I beleive.


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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:02 PM
"I highly doubt that as I believe it would require a change in the Constution."

No it doesn't - Bill Clinton was president.

Just kidding, ha ha ...

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:22 PM
SpinSpinSugar wrote:
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- Heard on the news this morning the law about
- non-American born citizens being unable to make
- President may be changing too.
-
- Hence you could have the Terminator in the White
- House before too much longer.
-
- Arnie or Dubya. Now there's a tough choice.
-
- Cheers,
-
- SSS
-

Trust me, that is one law that will NOT change anythime soon.

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:25 PM
arcadeace wrote:
- "I highly doubt that as I believe it would require a
- change in the Constution."
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- No it doesn't - Bill Clinton was president.


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Clinton.......? He called him self Clingon when we beamed him aboard the Enterprise.........

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:39 PM
ob_swe wrote:
- Clinton.......? He called him self Clingon when we
- beamed him aboard the Enterprise.........

I still haven't forgiven you for beaming him back down here.


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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:41 PM
Zyzbot wrote:
- I highly doubt that as I believe it would require a
- change in the Constution.

It would indeed, but that's what amendments are for. However, I agree that this particular change is very unlikely to happen.


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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:45 PM
tonedogbf110 wrote:
- cant believe Arnie is the new guvernor of
- california!
-
- lol
-
- bad luck USA!


Why bad luck? Who knows? He might actually do OK. Given that Gray Davis did more damage to California during his time than anybody in the state's history, could Arnold do much worse?

Everyobody thought Jessie Ventura being elected govenor of Minnesota was a big joke. But it turns out he's actually doing pretty well. Made all those who were nay-sayers against him eat a healthy meal of crow.

fluke39
10-08-2003, 02:47 PM
Arnie has never particularly struck me as a "brainy" person - does intelligence not particularly matter in america to run a state? or is "coolness" a preferential attribute?

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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 02:54 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- Arnie has never particularly struck me as a "brainy"
- person - does intelligence not particularly matter
- in america to run a state?

Hey now, let's not go confusing "California" with "America." That's uncalled-for.


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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:04 PM
well, Reagan was an actor as well and still great president (though not intellectual).



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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:06 PM
difficult, impossible, unbelievable to change the rules?

all it takes is one gentle putsch.


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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:08 PM
got to be said that only in America do you get real no-brainers in power!

Britain is one thing we get cockjockeys like Tony Blair etc etc but, USA i mean how can you explain Ronnie Reagan? What the f*** was that all about.

first it was "You Aint Seen Nuthin Yet"

could soon be "If you vote me out, I'll be back!"

I'm not saying Arnie will do a bad job but i just find the whole situation comical, its like voting in "Phil Mitchell" from Eastenders as mayor of London! it just aint the done thing.

and lets face Arnie is a bit of a meathead, if you dont believe me go to your local video store and hire Conan the Barbarian!

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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:08 PM
Amazing. He was one of my fave action-heroes. He ought to stay outta politics though..... Not good for the health.



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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:14 PM
this is the problem people are gonna make decsions on his acting acting and politics are very similar and i am sure he will do a great job he might have the image of a tough guy but better than a ******ed texan and his lover (bush and blair)

unless you have certified, verified data and proof of this or have actually flown the planes that stop your whineing!

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:20 PM
It is still better that simple people like Arnie, who can still distinguish right from wrong, do politics than some broad minded intellectuals, such as Pol Pot or Khomeini... Or take a look at the European political class: yes, this is a closed cast, you do not get there if you do not finish a right faculty at a right university, and they are so far away from the real life...

XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 03:22 PM
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XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 04:01 PM
tonedogbf110 wrote:
- got to be said that only in America do you get real
- no-brainers in power!
-
- Britain is one thing we get cockjockeys like Tony
- Blair etc etc but, USA i mean how can you explain
- Ronnie Reagan? What the f*** was that all about.
-
- first it was "You Aint Seen Nuthin Yet"
-
- could soon be "If you vote me out, I'll be back!"
-
- I'm not saying Arnie will do a bad job but i just
- find the whole situation comical, its like voting in
- "Phil Mitchell" from Eastenders as mayor of London!
- it just aint the done thing.
-
- and lets face Arnie is a bit of a meathead, if you
- dont believe me go to your local video store and
- hire Conan the Barbarian!

If anything troubles me about the state of American politics, it is not actors running for office. It is the number of career politicians who have never spent any time at all in the real world earning a living or associating with those who do. Such people are per force totally out of touch with the realities of the citizenry they purport to represent.

Is "Arnie" a "meathead"? Tell the truth. All you really think you know about him is what you have seen of him at the theater. Who is he really? Is he Mr Universe? Conan? the Terminator? the Eraser? Mr Mom? The answer is:...none of the above. These are all completely fictional characters which tell us nothing about the real man.

What real facts do we know about Arnold Schwarzenegger? We know that he came from Austria, with a few dollars in his pocket, to pursue a career in Hollywood show business. Not only did he craft an undeniably successful career in the cinema, he has amassed a net worth of 800 million dollars (according to latest press reports) by means of astute investent in the stock market, business, and real estate. He has been active in various high profile charitable and political fund-raising organizations over the years and has developed a credibility with enough influential people in California and the nation to be supported as a political candidate for the governorship of the principal state in the USA. This is not performance commonly associated with the "meatheads" of the world. Such achievements are made by prudent, astute, savvy individuals. I doubt that people like Warren Buffet et al associate with "meatheads".

On the other hand, Gray Davis displays impeccable political credentials. In fact, he has spent his entire adult life in the political arena, pursuing it as a career. IIRC, Davis has never spent a single day of his life in the "dreaded private sector", as one of my local news columnists likes to put it. His performance has demonstrated that it is obviously a mistake to equate a talent at politics with an ability to govern wisely. Clearly, they are not the same thing.

Forget the names involved and think of it this way. .

(1) What would you think of a CEO who managed to put his company 35 billion dollars into the red within four years, yet refused to take any austerity steps whatsoever?

(2) What would you think of a fellow who started from essentially nothing and legally amassed an 800 million dollar fortune within thirty years.

With whom would you invest?

Don't get me wrong. The economic situation in California today is nothing short of disastrous. Schwarzenegger may indeed fail in the end. But it was the "professional" politicians who created the mess in the first place; and they have demonstrated that they are neither able nor willing to do what is necessary to clean it up. Time to try something new.



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