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waffen-79
10-14-2005, 09:53 AM
Hi guys

I've been thinking, that having the whole series for quite sometime now and haven't really played a PF campaing.

I would like to master an american carrier based plane and use it online.

What planes and why would you recomend me, what are the differences in the variants.

Rather than fly the planes I wanted to check with the experts here first.

TIA

waffen-79
10-14-2005, 09:53 AM
Hi guys

I've been thinking, that having the whole series for quite sometime now and haven't really played a PF campaing.

I would like to master an american carrier based plane and use it online.

What planes and why would you recomend me, what are the differences in the variants.

Rather than fly the planes I wanted to check with the experts here first.

TIA

JG53Frankyboy
10-14-2005, 10:46 AM
open for all server ?

F4U1c http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
the 960 20mm shells will solve the most "proplems" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MINTZ2
10-14-2005, 10:56 AM
Yep, the F4U1c is my favorite. It`s a boom and zoomer though, don`t get caught in a turn fight. One turn and get out.

Schmouddle-WT
10-14-2005, 11:15 AM
Oh, yes, one turn and get out and be sure Ki84 can catch you anytime unless in a vertical dive...

But F4U1-C is really the best of the crowd.....

waffen-79
10-14-2005, 11:46 AM
thanks for your quick responces guys

I think we have a winner, but do please keep posting other options

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fordfan25
10-14-2005, 12:23 PM
master the f4u for late war and the wildcat for early war. just be prepaired for the over welming tast of pork http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

JadehawkII
10-14-2005, 12:49 PM
P-47N. Why? becoz it belongs here just as much as any other. Also, I'd love to see the Helldiver as well. the -3 and -4 versions. If you make the Bearcat, I'll be your best friend! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

VVaFFenPanZZeR
10-14-2005, 05:01 PM
This is the 1 u want:

http://rogue-cell.com/Pics/VVcorsair.jpg

waffen-79
10-14-2005, 08:53 PM
So far, so good

I'm learning to fly this puppy alright

http://www.hrmex.com/a6.jpg

Soon I'll give it a try in HL

ElAurens
10-14-2005, 09:18 PM
German marks on an F4U are just so wrong....

fordfan25
10-15-2005, 12:11 AM
its there attempt to make use beleave the DM is correct on the FW http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

HotelBushranger
10-15-2005, 02:30 AM
I'd recommend using a Corsair other than the C. Most US planes had 6 .50s, so it's best to learn on those planes. Plus uber 4 cannon planes teach you the wrong techniques, with too much reliance on firepower.

geetarman
10-15-2005, 06:34 AM
Fly a Hellcat.

jds1978
10-15-2005, 06:35 AM
ok, gotta get on this corsair lovefest....

yup, F4U's are the best...although the Hellcat is pretty wicked too.

Corsairs: B'n'Z
Hellcats: T'n'B

Both AC are super tough and can take loads of punishment.

ATG missions are a joy in these AC b/c you can carry massive ammounts of bombs/rockets.

With a zeke on your six, feel free to put the corsair in a 500mph dive...the bandit can't catch you and the corsair won't fall apart.

HotelBushRanger has a point about the C model F4u...those 20mm's makes it feel like you are cheating http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Waffen-79: For the love of God, get rid of those blasphemous LW skins http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Put some USMC skins on that thing or THE KITTEN GETS IT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

roybaty
10-15-2005, 07:02 AM
Corsair takes some practice to trap on a CV, be prepared http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ElAurens
10-15-2005, 07:13 AM
Actually I like the Hellcat too...

Sooooo much easier to kill..........


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Kuna15
10-15-2005, 08:25 AM
Like majority of other guys said, F4U. You can use that plane for every purpose very versatile.
Just learn proper CEM for F4U type and put a few flying hours in it and you'll be fine.

Also practice landing on carrier with cockpit on a lot, so you will have a good feeling about it and you will be able to succesfully land your Corsair even battle damaged. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JFC_Rautaristi
10-15-2005, 09:48 AM
I personally use F4U-1D. Most guys will disagree but in my opinion, if you're flying against anything with meatballs on them the 50cals are better than 20mm. They're more than enough against the japanese paper planes. And when fired on convergence range they are just as effective as 20mm. They usually don't tear the enemy apart but they'll fall anyway.

Also even though F4U is an ZnB plane when you're flying online you usually find yourself in a turnfight as most players fly ki-84. We need more zeke pilots so F4U could be used more like it was designed to be used http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oilburner_TAW
10-15-2005, 09:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JFC_Rautaristi:
I personally use F4U-1D. Most guys will disagree but in my opinion, if you're flying against anything with meatballs on them the 50cals are better than 20mm. They're more than enough against the japanese paper planes. And when fired on convergence range they are just as effective as 20mm. They usually don't tear the enemy apart but they'll fall anyway.

Also even though F4U is an ZnB plane when you're flying online you usually find yourself in a turnfight as most players fly ki-84. We need more zeke pilots so F4U could be used more like it was designed to be used http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree. Another 6-50's fan here.

MAILMAN------
10-15-2005, 12:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MINTZ2:
Yep, the F4U1c is my favorite. It`s a boom and zoomer though, don`t get caught in a turn fight. One turn and get out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't forget the Energy Fight. The Corsair is one of the best at the energy fight with its great "E" retention and big Pratt & Whitney with Supercharger.

Tater-SW-
10-15-2005, 01:22 PM
Not F4U-1c. A little used cannon bird. Play something hard instead, like an F4F. Early war is where the sides were more evenly matched.

Note that you need to set convergence to 305m (1000ft) since that was Navy standard.

tater

KGr.HH-Sunburst
10-17-2005, 05:10 AM
Is it me or are both Hellcat and Corsair a handfull to fly?
i was flying a P51D in a PTO campaign and i switched to a F4U-1D was thinking, ...and i thought the P51 requires tons of trim by every throttle setting but this... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

anyway i prefer the Hellcat just because it looks so d@mn cool in an ugly way
IMO corsair is a bit overkill against slow paper planes like oscars and Zero's

nakamura_kenji
10-17-2005, 05:19 AM
both have big big engine so be difficult fly imagine, though not think torque roll happen corsair which suppsod happen real life when throttle increase quickly low speed ie "engine eliminator" nick name often at landing this happen but happen not game flew corsair guess many people complain happen v_v

waffen-79
10-17-2005, 06:57 AM
Thanks for your suggestions guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stansdds
10-17-2005, 08:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">both have big big engine so be difficult fly imagine, though not think torque roll happen corsair which suppsod happen real life when throttle increase quickly low speed ie "engine eliminator" nick name often at landing this happen but happen not game flew corsair guess many people complain happen </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Corsair will torque roll, just like the real ones. At speeds above 100 KIAS, the torque roll is not a problem, but let your airspeed drop to 90, 80, or, heaven forbid, 70 KIAS and then push the throttle full forward. You will not recover if you are in the landing pattern and do this. This is one reason the Corsair was called "the ensign eliminator".

AH_BlueKestral
10-17-2005, 04:18 PM
S! All
By no means will I call myself an expert on any plane set. Training does help. To help all become better. Aces High Virtual Flight Squadron would like to offer some Carrier Qual Maps. Visit us at Aces High Virtual Flight Squadron (http://aceshigh.ws/run2/)
On the website, look for Aces High PX. Click on the Quarter Master link. You should be in the download section. Scroll down to the maps.Choose the Aces High Carrier Qualification Maps and download.Most should be put in your net Dogfight Folder. Please read the documentation before installing. We use Ventrillo and have a LSO for Qual rooms. Enjoy!

Browning50cal
10-23-2005, 04:37 PM
All these suggestions are very good. I;m not really a do this or do that person, but here's the deal. If your favorite aircraft is an FW-190, then use the Corsair. If you do well in a 109, then use the Hellcat (F6F). Both aircraft are smooth stable gun platforms. As for armament: against Japanese planes, anything you manage to hit them with will cause them to go up in a spectacular fireball pretty quickly.
As for carrier landing: fly over the carrier at 1200ft (450m)with your hook down, and line yourself up with its heading. This is called final bearing. As you cross the carrier's bow, pull a banking turn to port to bleed excess energy. When you slow to gear extension speed, go gear down and take-off flaps. Stop turning when you are 180deg. from your final bearing. Descend to 800 ft on this heading until you cannot see the carriers wake over your left shoulder. Reduce throttle to around 30% and go full flaps. Begin a shallow descending port turn to line yourself up on your final bearing. Use between 0% and 50% throttle to maintain your glideslope. As you cross the ramp, cut throttle and pull back on the stick at the moment of touch down to engage the Cross Deck Pendant (CDP) or arresting wire. This pattern is adapted from the manual for case 1 (good weather or visual ops)operations for CV's at sea. (CV NATOPS). Case 3 or foul weather recovery is straight in from 8 miles (12k).