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bannex19
01-30-2019, 07:30 AM
Change that to light reaction, seeing as the WL jump attack with all his body weight is going to be one. It's duration makes it more like DE or Caber (obviously not as long) for a hero blocking it, it literally locks him down. If it's a heavy then make it come out slower, if it's a light then it should bounce off block instead of continue to hit.

Also why does it not bounce off WL all block? Zerk is in a weird spot, I don't think he needs a nerf but I do think he needs his mechanics to be more consistent with the rest of the cast (besides wulin and shaman).

Solowing_96
01-30-2019, 08:03 AM
I think all heroes' Zone attack already treated as heavy attack, so it will be unfair if berseker zone attack is treared as light attack.

bannex19
01-30-2019, 08:15 AM
I think all heroes' Zone attack already treated as heavy attack, so it will be unfair if berseker zone attack is treared as light attack.

Which is why we have balancing issues when it comes to lightning fast zones

Goat_of_Vermund
01-30-2019, 08:29 AM
Pk zone is a light, but that is the only exception (would be justified because of the speed if the rest of the kit wouldn't be useless).
I think his zone needs a damage nerf to 24 from 28, and it shouldn't be guaranteed on heavy parries.

bannex19
01-30-2019, 08:36 AM
I guess I dont understand the logic behind 400ms zones having heavy reaction. His zone is technically heavy light heavy light which is ridiculous and should be changed to light heavy light heavy

Solowing_96
01-30-2019, 09:25 AM
I guess I dont understand the logic behind 400ms zones having heavy reaction. His zone is technically heavy light heavy light which is ridiculous and should be changed to light heavy light heavy

maybe it's because of the input of zone attack is press heavy and light attack simultaniously? LOL:D. so it treated as Heavy attacks.

bannex19
01-30-2019, 09:30 AM
maybe it's because of the input of zone attack is press heavy and light attack simultaniously? LOL:D. so it treated as Heavy attacks.

Isn't that the same input as the PK?

Why does that automatically mean that the attack must be heavy? There is a light input there too...

The only 400ms heavy attacks are zone.

Solowing_96
01-30-2019, 09:36 AM
Isn't that the same input as the PK?

Why does that automatically mean that the attack must be heavy? There is a light input there too...

The only 400ms heavy attacks are zone.

so, you mean PK's Zone is light opener? i never try PK tough. I mean, if I blocked the 1st attack of the PK's zone, the move will be interupted?

ChampionRuby50g
01-30-2019, 10:12 AM
so, you mean PK's Zone is light opener? i never try PK tough. I mean, if I blocked the 1st attack of the PK's zone, the move will be interupted?

No.

Solowing_96
01-30-2019, 10:17 AM
No.

so, PK's zone attack have a heavy attack properties. which is it will not interupted if the 1st attack is blocked.

ChampionRuby50g
01-30-2019, 10:52 AM
so, PK's zone attack have a heavy attack properties. which is it will not interupted if the 1st attack is blocked.

The first strike is a 400ís light and wonít be stopped, it can be feinted etc, second part of zone is heavy, dunno the speed.

Goat_of_Vermund
01-30-2019, 11:29 AM
It is interrupred if the first part is blocked. It is considered a light. The second part is considered a heavy.

ChampionRuby50g
01-30-2019, 11:56 AM
Well that just proves my memory isnít as good as I thought it was

bannex19
01-30-2019, 12:36 PM
All 400 ms zones should be considered a light attack. There has to be trade off for speed.