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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:43 AM
In il2 age, I'm interesting in fly LW's 109G6ASw/MK108, and P39w/37mm. I think that time, P39's FM and DM is most resonalbe[In FB 1.11, I dont like P39s, too overmodeled FM, and too esay to hit-37mm, 37mmhit is no more fun.].

In FB 1.0, I spend long time to fly 109s and all VVS aircraft. I think it is well balanced.

Those time I hate 190s.

In FB 1.1B, I suddenly found 190 is the most fun plane. The 190s performance is like said. that things deeply impressed me, And I spend a lot of time to excise meself to become a TOP 190 ACE... And I do it. Can Use 190A5 to down and VVS figters in any situation.

But in FB 1.11, I lost my dream. 190's FM is adjust to worse than 1.1B, and very very bad thing is not that. OLEG have made a "VVS OLEG version MG151/20mm cannon", I called it "MiniCannon brand OLEG". Then My 190's DM has 6 guns: 2xMG17-7.92mm, 4xOLEG brand joke mini gun. But even 4canon+2gun changed to 6machinegun, it also cant mach VVS side 6 gun's damage level, like P40s.

This time I fly 190 on the sky, try hard to make a pass to some La5La7Yak's route, and blast my total 6guns, and hit my bullet deeply on the Them body, most time In One PASS I CAN MAKE 10+ CANON BULLETS HIT, But Nothing happend in most times, except some smoke effect.

I hate this. But I cant change that things... OLEG is OLEG.

Now I try to adjust 190's Conversi from my favorite 300metes[BNZ tac], to incredibale 120metes. For more Damage effect. It had make a little useful. But...

A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...
A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...
A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...

I hope OLEG can fix it next patch.
But I know OLEG is OLEG.

So I kept 1.1B on HD, some times I make 1.1B HOST to enjoy a ButcherBird's life.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:43 AM
In il2 age, I'm interesting in fly LW's 109G6ASw/MK108, and P39w/37mm. I think that time, P39's FM and DM is most resonalbe[In FB 1.11, I dont like P39s, too overmodeled FM, and too esay to hit-37mm, 37mmhit is no more fun.].

In FB 1.0, I spend long time to fly 109s and all VVS aircraft. I think it is well balanced.

Those time I hate 190s.

In FB 1.1B, I suddenly found 190 is the most fun plane. The 190s performance is like said. that things deeply impressed me, And I spend a lot of time to excise meself to become a TOP 190 ACE... And I do it. Can Use 190A5 to down and VVS figters in any situation.

But in FB 1.11, I lost my dream. 190's FM is adjust to worse than 1.1B, and very very bad thing is not that. OLEG have made a "VVS OLEG version MG151/20mm cannon", I called it "MiniCannon brand OLEG". Then My 190's DM has 6 guns: 2xMG17-7.92mm, 4xOLEG brand joke mini gun. But even 4canon+2gun changed to 6machinegun, it also cant mach VVS side 6 gun's damage level, like P40s.

This time I fly 190 on the sky, try hard to make a pass to some La5La7Yak's route, and blast my total 6guns, and hit my bullet deeply on the Them body, most time In One PASS I CAN MAKE 10+ CANON BULLETS HIT, But Nothing happend in most times, except some smoke effect.

I hate this. But I cant change that things... OLEG is OLEG.

Now I try to adjust 190's Conversi from my favorite 300metes[BNZ tac], to incredibale 120metes. For more Damage effect. It had make a little useful. But...

A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...
A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...
A Saber becomes to a fruitknife...realy...

I hope OLEG can fix it next patch.
But I know OLEG is OLEG.

So I kept 1.1B on HD, some times I make 1.1B HOST to enjoy a ButcherBird's life.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:54 AM
I said:

You can make 190 fly like a pig.
You can make 190 climb like a cow.
I dont mind that.
Even you can slinkingly change 190's armorplate to strawboard.
I take up.
But if you full plug "OLEG brand minigun" on 190's body,
Even If you let 190A5 runs like a tortoise.
I will mad. I will spew. I will tire-fly.

I will give my dream to another SIM.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 02:40 AM
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.



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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 04:23 AM
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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 05:12 AM
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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 05:30 AM
Wlel sdai. I rlealy ddi nto kwno ttha!



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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 06:19 AM
miy engelush es ploo, butt not aganist othre noe to undresantd tihs maens

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 07:57 AM
Im sure if these guys would be from China like CHN they would post in perfect english because of their superior brain /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

btw i agree the weapons are too weak in 1.11
I thought even in 1.1b that 20mm Cannons where to weak.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 08:31 AM
Eagleheart, i have to disagree.
i find the planes in 1.11 very balanced.
i don´t believe you will find a better flysim.

Boandl

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may they find it clever to understand only 1 language /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 08:56 AM
Boandlgramer , Thanks to your word.

I agree FB is the best sim in this age all around the world.

But I wonded why OLEG dont just simply and 1.1B's 190 FM and IL2 1.2's FM together... And kept the il2 V1.2's DM.

That will be easy. and Be fun.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 09:06 AM
"I will give my dream to another SIM."


...

For a guy who announced adios, you sure have an awful lot to say.





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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:30 PM
No, EagleHeart. Do not set conversion distance to 1200m. Do not set it to 300m. I think it's at its best at 200m, but this depends on the style of fighting. Keep in mind that kinetic energy of a bullet (which was of primary concern in FB) is dropping rapidly with distance. Also, faster you fly, effective distance of a bullet reduces.

As for the FM of the Fw190, it seems it's less prone to stall, and overall characteristics are just fine.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 12:45 PM
Rab03 wrote:

- Also, faster you
- fly, effective distance of a bullet reduces.

Only if the target is moving similarly fast. If the target is moving slower then your range is increased, you have added to the relative initial velocity. If the target is moving faster than you, the range drops.


Neal

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 05:13 PM
Agree, the MG 151/20 is very weak now... it was really good in 1.1test05 which was leaked. But I also have to add that ShVAK and B-20 are similarly weak... tested various situations, not just red vs blue, but for example 1 151/20 vs La-7, then 1 ShVAK vs La-7 and so on.


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XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 08:39 AM
Tried the A5 last night against an Li-2. I tried it
four times.

First time - just gradually whittled it down until it
fell out the sky.

Second time - did some damage to it. On a second pass
removed its rear fuselage.

Third time - blew up on first pass (1 second burst)

Fourth time - one second burst on first pass removed its
rear fuselage.


Seems plenty powerful to me.

I am not firing until under 200m, probably finish firing
at around 50m

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 09:14 AM
MG-151/20 is WRONG from several patches ago :-)

More precisely its shell modelling is wrong. Posted this several times...

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view.asp?name=Olegmaddoxreadyroom&id=zuyku

According to Oleg it must fire APIT-HE-HE-MG-MG

Now it seems to fire APIT-APIT-HE or something like this !
And the visual effect is completely wrong, APIT shell hit is displayed like MG hit.
It was correct in original IL-2, one of the bugs patches actually brought in instead of fixing existing ones :-(

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 12:50 PM
TipoMan wrote:
- MG-151/20 is WRONG from several patches ago :-)

Maybe the details are incorrect, but it still
seems to be an effective weapon. I don't understand
the criticism of it being ineffective, because when
I tested it last night it seemed perfectly effective.

I might do some comparative tests with the P40
and P47 and Hurricane tonight, to get an impression
of the relative power of MG151/20s and MGFFs and
.50s. The initial impression is that the 190A5
has a more powerful armament than the P40 or P47
(which is as it should be).

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 03:16 PM
AaronGT wrote:
-
- TipoMan wrote:
-- MG-151/20 is WRONG from several patches ago :-)
-
- Maybe the details are incorrect, but it still
- seems to be an effective weapon. I don't understand
- the criticism of it being ineffective, because when
- I tested it last night it seemed perfectly
- effective.
-
I'm sure it was very extensive testing...

Aaron do you know what APIT-HE-HE-MG-MG means ?
If you do, you have to be blind not to notice the fact that
EVERY shell know is displayed like an EXPLOSION which is NOT CORRECT for APIT rounds.
Please follow the link I posted to see the pictures and details...

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 12:43 AM
AaronGT sirhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Trust me, I AM ALMOST THE MOST DEADLY FB-SHOTTER IN THE WORLD.

So If I enconted problems in FB1.11's 190's shot and damage, I think most every one are same on it.

I had nearly 5000+ online dogfight kills in past one year. And VOW 300+ scores.

In 190A5, BNZ I consighment is set to 180m, In dogfight I found 120m is better.

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 12:54 AM
TipoMan's post maybe is correct.

I allways found when I make a highspeed-pass to La7's[or woodn La5FN, Yaks] flight path, and In a very good snap-shot, I punch at least dozen 20mm warhead on their body, make a compression and great smokes on it. And guess what?

after it happens, I suprise noticed that they[La5FN, La7, Yaks] allmost have no one-holes on their body and wings!!!

Only I got continues MG151/20+MGFF and very direct hit, I can down them.

Only I say that the fact is: Fly 190 make a kill is like (butcher bird)said. Its one pass one kill's feeling is very exciting. 190A5's 2XMG151/20mm, 2 MGFF/20mm, 2 MG17/7.92mm is surely can handle it.

But in FB1.11, its not very effective.

I hope OLEG patch it. It will bring back some fun in FB SIM.

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 05:40 AM
Oh come on, the 190s armament is absolutely devestating to just about anything it connects with. I don't even have problems killing IL-2s in the 190.

Now online, lag may be causing problems with your high speed passes.

It's either:

1. your aim

or

2. a lag issue

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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 06:49 AM
It's like I always say,
"A saber becomes to a fruitknife, realy"
S!
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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 08:13 PM
Well Eagle Hart, you can put the 1.1B patch on over the 1.1 or 1.11 patch.

Just install 1.1B like normal and you get back the correct Bf-109/FW-190 flight models, the MG-151/20 also seem a bit better.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 05:19 AM
Thanks every one honesty for support my posts.

I'm peased to see that not every one in FB-WORLD are all madhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif))))))))))))))))))))

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 05:29 AM
I have to agree Eagle....the Fockes Series is ruined after 1.1 patch...speeds rollrate climbrate, acceleration, etc etc...wrong. But I fly it....I know Crap since CFS1

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XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 06:35 AM
CHN_EagleHeart wrote:
- Thanks every one honesty for support my posts.
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- I'm peased to see that not every one in FB-WORLD are
- all madhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif))))))))))))))))))))
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Yes, no worries there. It's just you and a few others that are mad. (need we bring up that fruitknife crap again?)


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