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The-Good-Guy
09-30-2004, 07:32 PM
{ya should be a readin this with a good 'ol Scottish accent, ma friends}

Ah, I know arve been bothering ya ol about joysticks and the like, but it's a big decision, is it not?

Here are some facts:
1) I like lots a buttons at me fingertips, like.
2) I don't have big hands (but, hey - don't be going inferring anything else from that, alrighty).

I be hearing that the CH Fighterstick may be a bit awkward for smaller hands.

I'd be mighty grateful for any and all comments, especially from you hardcore fellows who have a wealth of experience of such matters. Yeah, Revvin_UK, that would be including you my friend.

As always, ya know you have me thanks in advance.

And remember:
"Don't shoot! I'm...
The-Good-Guy"

The-Good-Guy
09-30-2004, 07:32 PM
{ya should be a readin this with a good 'ol Scottish accent, ma friends}

Ah, I know arve been bothering ya ol about joysticks and the like, but it's a big decision, is it not?

Here are some facts:
1) I like lots a buttons at me fingertips, like.
2) I don't have big hands (but, hey - don't be going inferring anything else from that, alrighty).

I be hearing that the CH Fighterstick may be a bit awkward for smaller hands.

I'd be mighty grateful for any and all comments, especially from you hardcore fellows who have a wealth of experience of such matters. Yeah, Revvin_UK, that would be including you my friend.

As always, ya know you have me thanks in advance.

And remember:
"Don't shoot! I'm...
The-Good-Guy"

x6BL_Brando
10-01-2004, 02:07 AM
I have a small hand too, and I found my Fighterstick a bit daunting at first! Now that I'm used to it I have no problem with it at all...and I have about 48 commands progged into it...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
You are getting pedals are you? There is no rudder option with these sticks.
I would go with the fighterstick meself....

Greetings from Devon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

RevvinUK
10-01-2004, 04:21 AM
(Ya should read this with a taffy accent http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

If you like a lot of buttons at your disposal then maybe the Fighterstick would be more to your liking and it would be handy if you decided to try a jet simulation. However if you are just going to play IL-2 as you mentioned in your other thread then maybe the Combatstick combined with the Throttle Quadrant will give you enough buttons to program. The Combatstick and Fighterstick are the same size. Some users have used a section of foam pipe insulation (which you can pick up at any decent hardware store) to make a small 'collar' at the base of the joystick grip to help raise their hand up.

I think a lot of the trouble people have with sizes of sticks (this goes for the Cougar too) is that people place these sticks on desktops and may have their chairs set quite low so their forearm is not horizontal to the joystick, instead it's angled down which then naturally changes the angle of your wrist. For example with my stick on the desk and my set lower down I can reach the top hat switch on my Fighterstick but if I adjust my chair or move my stick to a postion where my forearm is horizontal to the stick my thumb moves over the top hat switch by half an inch. It's all about ergonomics, it's amazing how much money people will pay for computer hardware and not think about what they are going to sit on.

x6BL_Brando
10-01-2004, 05:44 AM
What Revvin said.....

The ergonomic part of stick use is a subject I've studied a lot 'cos of my physical disabilities (one arm missing and spinal injury http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif) - and it's amazing what difference it makes if your 'stick-elbow' is in the right position! It's correct to point out that my choice of the FS over the CS is related to my need to have as many commands as possible in one place, for obvious reasons - but there are a plane-load of commands in the game that can be mapped to HOTAS in FB - incremental magnification and views for example - all the engine controls, airframe controls & so on - that my vote remains for the FS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here's my rig and details...note that I have the j/s between my legs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif and that my elbow rest is the same height as the stick base. In practice I don't rest my elbow on anything when I'm using the stick to manouevre, only when I'm in 'cruise mode' heading to or from engagement. I will have adjusted the engine settings and trim wheels for a shallow climb, or level flight, and the beast flies itself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I like the joystick central - that is after all where it's meant to be (in most planes)!

http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1040

Check out Ghost's rig while you're there - link in his sig - to see how far you can go with cockpit ergonomics, it's great! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hunter82
10-01-2004, 05:53 AM
I use the fighterstick w/pro throttle and pro pedals

horseback
10-01-2004, 09:00 AM
I've already stated my preference for the Combatstick-but I have a Pro Throttle as well, which also has a POV hatswitch. The CH Manager software allows me to choose which hat will be my POV, and I made the throttle hat my POV. The stick's 8-way hat is now used for an additional 8 buttons, and the cardinal points are used for elevation and rudder trim. If you have TIR and use it to the exclusion of snap views, that may not be an issue for you.

As for the Fighterstick, I tried one (before I got the Throttle), and I just felt there was something wrong about a 4-way hat switch where your cannon button is supposed to be. The POV hat is even harder to reach, and 'looking around' with it while in a tight turn was often disastrous (stall-spin-crash).

I wasn't comfortable with it after almost a week, and took it back and 'traded down' to the Combatstick, which caters much better to my prejudices (it's cheaper too). Adding the Pro Throttle cured my 'button deficiency.'

cheers

horseback

x6BL_Brando
10-01-2004, 05:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As for the Fighterstick, I tried one (before I got the Throttle), and I just felt there was something wrong about a 4-way hat switch where your cannon button is supposed to be. The POV hat is even harder to reach, and 'looking around' with it while in a tight turn was often disastrous (stall-spin-crash). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Point taken http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I use trackIR...so the POV hat is just another hatswitch with a possible 24 available commands on my setup.
I use the trigger for MG's, and shift_&_trigger for cannon. I've trained myself to use short bursts, and switching between weapons is now second nature. I find it saves ammo and improves accuracy.
I don't want to set up as a fighterstick fanboy though, G G - just grab a CH stick, you won't be disappointed. Good tech support too, which you may need when you first encounter the Control Manager. It does work very well, I just found it a bit daunting at first but the forum guys soon put me straight.