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karost
04-27-2005, 07:43 AM
for me , the most classic online combat skill , is manuever air-combat with out lose any single ammo I like to do this kind of tactic when I meet a noob apponent. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

pull hammerhead tactic from 300 meter .... Yes in IL2 - v.1.2 original version , this tactic is very fun ... because FM for 1G(vertical) stall speed was modeled very good for hardcoare players ... any opponent ( in IL2 original times) who followed me from this tactic ...70% they were crashed on the ground http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but after FB.. released my favor tactic not work because compromise FM in 1G(vertical) stall speed is not the same..... the plane is like a ballon or paper ..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

but when I see this...... wow.
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/screenshots/hammerhead.jpg

....I can feel ...more fun will coming back to me again when we got patch 4.0 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OK...now is your turn, please share us, what is your favor tactics to make online kill with out lose any ammo .....?

S~

karost
04-27-2005, 07:43 AM
for me , the most classic online combat skill , is manuever air-combat with out lose any single ammo I like to do this kind of tactic when I meet a noob apponent. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

pull hammerhead tactic from 300 meter .... Yes in IL2 - v.1.2 original version , this tactic is very fun ... because FM for 1G(vertical) stall speed was modeled very good for hardcoare players ... any opponent ( in IL2 original times) who followed me from this tactic ...70% they were crashed on the ground http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but after FB.. released my favor tactic not work because compromise FM in 1G(vertical) stall speed is not the same..... the plane is like a ballon or paper ..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

but when I see this...... wow.
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/screenshots/hammerhead.jpg

....I can feel ...more fun will coming back to me again when we got patch 4.0 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OK...now is your turn, please share us, what is your favor tactics to make online kill with out lose any ammo .....?

S~

Atomic_Marten
04-27-2005, 08:05 AM
When I slow down, and my oppo ram my wing with his wing. That is the most insane kill you can get -- but you do not have controll over it. That entirely depends on him.

He lost his wing and usually I don't suffer any damage (being slower than him, I will always suffer less damage). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes, it's a bug!

IV-JG51_L.Z
04-27-2005, 08:05 AM
Let La5 get close on my six, rolling to avoid getting shot, then cut power and drop flaps -- La5 collides with me and crashes. I got the credit for kill without firing a single shot (in the FW190) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Your way is better though, less risky I guess http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Henkie_
04-27-2005, 08:42 AM
Run BnZ-ing 109's or 190's out of fuel.

skabbe
04-27-2005, 09:05 AM
i use adrenaline, its like the star wars force, you can feel the opponents with out seeing them, you shot them in the stranges angles like it was the most simpel thing

F16_Neo
04-27-2005, 09:17 AM
My fav trick is to lure n00b Emil pilots into treetop turnfights with my J8, once behind them one can usually stress them into a spin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Arm_slinger
04-27-2005, 09:18 AM
Go down LOW and start rolling and turning, rather risky to ones self, but it works http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Te_Vigo
04-27-2005, 09:22 AM
I like to get tight on the opponent's six and stick there like glue.
In their wildeyed panic to escape, they stall and , and, and it's all over when they hit the deck.
It works on some pilots some of the time and best at low altitude.
Took three out in a row one night.
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CAPT_COTTON
04-27-2005, 01:18 PM
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Under bridges and thur smockestackes works great or turn at 20 feet above ground till hear boom behind you and go to base and get beer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
And slam on brakes works great[flaps and gear and turn off eng and BAIL]

FatBoyHK
04-27-2005, 01:21 PM
well, you may try to clip his wing using your vertical stablizer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

chaikanut
04-27-2005, 02:34 PM
This for offline:


Fluying between the factory chimneys or close to small hills. Probably very annoying online when you fly a stuka. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Offline I have also rammed several aircraft without a single scratch. It doesnt work with all aircraft though (not sure which ones) and you should aim your propeler at ailerons/ tail (probably the control surfaces have no collision detection or whatever)

RedNeckerson
04-27-2005, 02:39 PM
Hammerheads are a great way to get killed online.

quiet_man
04-27-2005, 02:52 PM
on actual FM my tactic is to get real close, aim well and then crash into the target before firing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

at old IL2 I loved to do negative half loops with 190 from full speed at 500m,
after perfected it I never more got shoot down in the 190 online
and once I lured three fighters (one Yak, two P39) into "synchron" crash http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

quiet_man

stathem
04-27-2005, 03:52 PM
Thought of this the other day but not tried it yet: has anyone killed another plane with the arrestor hook on a Seafire?

Jaws2002
04-27-2005, 04:32 PM
SPRAY AND PRAY!!!
there's plenty ammo on fw's. No need to save it. Shoot till he blows up in tiny-tiny pieces. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Dolemite-
04-27-2005, 05:02 PM
When meeting any enemy plane that has poor high speed elevator performance or any plane that locks up around 500kmh like the LAGG-3 for example.

I like to force them to follow me into a high speed dive then watch them hit the ground like a bomb with wings.

Of course this doesnt work against Vet. pilots, but when it does work it is a most satisfying kill. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

karost
04-27-2005, 06:04 PM
Atomic_Marten:
"He lost his wing and usually I don't suffer any damage (being slower than him, I will always suffer less damage). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"

K: Yes it look insane kill but look fun too ... Thanks
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IV-JG51_L.Z:
"rolling to avoid getting shot, then cut power and drop flaps -- La5 collides with me and crashes. "

K: Well... that is one goood cunning tactic , now I see .... noone like to get close to 109 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, Thanks
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Henkie_ :
"Run BnZ-ing 109's or 190's out of fuel."

K: Well... look interesting , Thanks
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skabbe:
" its like the star wars force, you can feel the opponents with out seeing them,"

K: yes ...I have a same feel when my girl friend stay behind me when I playing this game and forgot our appiontment I can feel a dark force when looking in her face http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
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F16_Neo:
"lure n00b Emil pilots into treetop turnfights with my J8"

K: top tree is most fun for low speed like J8 , I agree , Thanks
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Arm_slinger:
"Go down LOW and start rolling and turning"

K: humm... old hand friends like this fun .... I learn alot in IL2 - times, Thanks
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Te_Vigo:
"I like to get tight on the opponent's six and stick there like glue. In their wildeyed panic to escape, they stall and ,...."

K: Woo woo, that cool and look crezy fun... that recall me when forced p-51 noop friends get stall at 5000 meter when I stay on 109K4 he try to turn hard and keep pull his nose up to shoot me with out care his energy and get fat-spint and stall http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif , Thank
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CAPT_COTTON:
"Under bridges and thur smockestackes works great or turn at 20 feet above ground till hear boom "

K: well , that tactic make me respect and I never follow hem under bridges coz if I hit that bridge that make me feel like a stopid guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif , Thanks
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FatBoyHK:
"you may try to clip his wing using your vertical stablizer"

K: humm , that is true , radder tail is one of good weapon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, Thanks
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chaikanut:
"Probably very annoying online when you fly a stuka"

K: humm , fly stuka at very low and close to stall speed with skid ladder , is one of classic fun , Thanks
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RedNeckerson:
"Hammerheads are a great way to get killed online."

K: yes , I agree in FB .... 1G (vertical) stall ( ballon or papers) speed made me like a slow..motion target to get shoot , but that is my trap if he is not I-16 or herrican , he can not pull up ...and crash and I still fly with bad damage heading back to the base ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks
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quiet_man:
"at old IL2 I loved to do negative half loops with 190 from full speed at 500m,
after perfected it I never more got shoot down in the 190 online
and once I lured three fighters (one Yak, two P39) into "synchron" crash "

K: humm ...., that is very good trap, make one roll and make two-tree kill in one time , that is a respect tactic S~ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, Thanks
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stathem:
" with the arrestor hook on a Seafire?"

K: with hook ? .... hummm.... sound interesting but I never did that .... and like to know too.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif , Thanks
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Jaws2002:
"SPRAY AND PRAY!!!..... Shoot till he blows up in tiny-tiny pieces. "

K: humm 190 with new brand 151/20 with MG ....can blows up in tiny-tiny pieces. like this ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/screenshots/BoooM%202.jpg

when you got 4.0 please be-carefull not shoot your friends when icon not show http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ,Thanks
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Dolemite-:
" I like to force them to follow me into a high speed dive then watch them hit the ground like a bomb with wings."

K:humm.. you may happy to do like that again when we get 4.0 , coz all friends will re-learn their air-plane's weight and new innertear FM model http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif , Thanks
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Well..., I/we like to read other good experiece tactic to make online-kill with out lose any single ammo for all of you ,please join and share us your fovor story ..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif S!

regards,

geetarman
04-28-2005, 10:18 AM
I like to fly up on an opponent's six at high speed. When I am 180 meters away i pull up and level out just over their cockpit. During the pull up, I extend my gear. By the time I reach the cockpit, my gear is down and crashes through the canopy crushing the enemy pilot.

Jumoschwanz
04-28-2005, 12:03 PM
Now and then when I jump into a fighter for a sortie I will take a 500kg bomb with me set for 3 seconds delay.
If someone jumps me when I am climbing to altitude, or on the way to a target zone I evade them, get to the deck and drop it with them on my tail. It is fun to watch the "enemy plane destroyed" pop up as they dissapear in a fireball.
Then you can go on your merry way to your original destination with a full ammo load. No matter how much time goes by, I regularly catch old aces and noobs alike with this trick. What fun! S!

Jumoschwanz

BuzzU
04-28-2005, 01:19 PM
Fly at the enemy at top speed. Be one foot away as you pass him. Puts him into a spin. If you're lucky he won't get out of it, and you haven't fired a shot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Copperhead310th
04-28-2005, 03:14 PM
Classice IL-2M3 Loopty -loop.

when being pursued by a 109 just dive hard for the nearest cliff wall, mountian side, building, ect and hit flaps ant the last secone pull up and loop behind them.
IF they manage not to run smake dead into the mountain like a bird into a large glass window... then at least you come out in a better defensive positon. this little trick has worked for me repaetedly over 4 years now dispite patch changes. il-2's will ALWAYS out turn 109's using flaps. but the real JOY of it is that MOST of the online 109 drivers are bullheaded and far too over confadent in ther aircraft. Your basically playing thier own ego's against them.

only time this won't work is when you have a VERY good 109 pilot that knows how to fly smart
and not target fixated.

FI-Aflak
04-28-2005, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RedNeckerson:
Hammerheads are a great way to get killed online. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A stupidly executed hammerhead is. A well done one is fine.

Never try a hammerhead if there is a chance you will be in range and in his sights . . . you won't be moving, making you an easy target.

If you've got a big enough energy advantage, go for it, they won't be able to hit you, and if they try they are easy prey when you come back down.

NorrisMcWhirter
04-29-2005, 06:53 AM
Hi,

Hi speed BNZ attack where they can see you coming. Very often they will yank back on the stick so hard, they go into a spin.

Works a treat on P39/P63 and I16 drivers.

When they recover, they're usually panicking and slow so repeat again.

Cheers,
Norris

karost
04-29-2005, 10:40 AM
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geetarman:
"By the time I reach the cockpit, my gear is down and crashes through the canopy crushing the enemy pilot."

K: woo woo ... that's hurt ! ....I never did that before sound cool.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and Thanks

...Hey I have one funs Idea let's ask Mr.Olek to add a short gun to a pilots so we can open our cockpit and roll 180 degree upside down and snake over opponent cockpit then shoot him with that short gun....! ( or take his picture by save screen ) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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Jumoschwanz:
I will take a 500kg bomb with me set for 3 seconds delay......
.....and drop it with them on my tail. It is fun to watch the "enemy plane destroyed" pop up as they dissapear in a fireball. "

K: Wow... that is very good idea for set "3 seconds delay" I read the history book about some LW team carry a bomb and drop over B-17s .... that is most dangers and not easy jobs .... S~



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BuzzU:
"Fly at the enemy at top speed. Be one foot away as you pass him. Puts him into a spin."

K: BuzzU, Thanks for join your good trip http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I used to do like that before long time ago when I stay in 109G2 and like to play a funny jock to my friends HE-111 , I drive hi-speed under him and pull up inform of him ..... and you know what happen ? server inform me ... I kill him.... a pilot dead ( he is not AI but a player ) I didn€t crash on him I did not touch a trigger .... since then I stop do some kind like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif



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Copperhead310th:
"when being pursued by a 109 just dive hard for the nearest cliff wall, mountian side, building, ect and hit flaps ant the last secone pull up and loop behind them...
...MOST of the online 109 drivers are bullheaded and far too over confadent in ther aircraft. Your basically playing thier own ego's against them."

K: hum sound true... and I agree , to attack IL-2s not easy , I many time hit him and crash , meet good IL-2s ( no tail gun) with 109F2 is most fun and look balance like playing chess , Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



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FI-Aflak:
"Never try a hammerhead if there is a chance you will be in range and in his sights . . . you won't be moving, making you an easy target."

K: well .... that is 100% true Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

for myself have 2 type of hammerhead
1) our range ..reverse mean out of gun range and make hammerhead reveres 180 degree turn ... this way is save but trap not work.
2) in range trap ... reverse I will play this trap if situation getting bad when he get close and I stay lower then 200meter and my initial speed 275-300 km/h so I pull soft turn left and let him pull lead turn inside my cycle then suddenly pull up and roll right and kick right ladder keep pull 80 degree up skid right then apply roll right reverse when climb at 700-800 meters and speed drop to 120 km/h that moment is danger ( for FB version coz 1 G stall speed is like balloon ) it take more then 3+ second to complete stall reverse that is too long ( enough to get shoot ) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ( I hope 4.0 will fix stall FM ) ... ok I get shoot a lot but still can fly now is cool time I open combat or landing flap and roll left while my nose drop to the ground my speed come back but Lose altitude fast pull up very gently at 50 meter my nose point at level .... and I look back to see him.... and I smile http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif coz I saw him did a same thing like I did but......he can not pull up on time then. ...BOOMMM....yes ... he crash .... that is most funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif



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NorrisMcWhirter:
"Hi speed BNZ attack where they can see you coming. Very often they will yank back on the stick so hard, they go into a spin."

K: well... Thanks to join S~ , P39/P63 and I16 when spin and stall look terrible ..... in IL2 original P39 is most terrible spin/stall
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Hey I/we need more fun from all of you who like to share us your favor experience ... How you make kill with out lose any ammo ?

S!