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bmoffa
06-13-2007, 04:48 PM
OK. What am I doing wrong? This is what I do:
-Start engine
-Open radiator
-Lock tail wheel
-Flaps to takeoff position
-Mixture to 120%
-Prop pitch to 100
-Slowly throttle up all the way 110%
-Chocks away
-Release brakes
I roll striaght down the deck. As soon as I'm over the water I retract landing gear while pulling up gently.

I end up in the water nearly every time. I may have made it once or twice with mininmum loadout. I cam get just about any other carrier based airplane up with very little problem.

bmoffa
06-13-2007, 04:48 PM
OK. What am I doing wrong? This is what I do:
-Start engine
-Open radiator
-Lock tail wheel
-Flaps to takeoff position
-Mixture to 120%
-Prop pitch to 100
-Slowly throttle up all the way 110%
-Chocks away
-Release brakes
I roll striaght down the deck. As soon as I'm over the water I retract landing gear while pulling up gently.

I end up in the water nearly every time. I may have made it once or twice with mininmum loadout. I cam get just about any other carrier based airplane up with very little problem.

Jaws2002
06-13-2007, 04:50 PM
On static or moving carrier?

On a rolling carrier it should be easier.

na85
06-13-2007, 04:52 PM
If your wing drops, make sure you correct it with the rudder, not the ailerons. Using the ailerons in a near-stall situation like that will usually spin you into the drink. There's a reason for it but I can't quite remember why.

Zeus-cat
06-13-2007, 05:04 PM
What's your loadout? You can't take a heavy loadout and get off the deck withteh F4U.

stansdds
06-13-2007, 05:15 PM
Escort carrier or big carrier?
Static or moving carrier?
Loadout?
Don't pull up as you leave the deck, control the tendency to roll by applying right rudder, retract gear, achieve stable, level flight before entering a gentle climb. You may also need to use landing flaps, retract flaps to takeoff setting at 90 KIAS, retract flaps to combat or fully retracted at 100 KIAS.

bmoffa
06-13-2007, 05:22 PM
OK. The carrier is moving. I'm carrying a full load of bombs and rokets. This mission is actually a sample that came with Mission Mate. I have taken off successfully in one or two of the original campain missions that came with 1946.

strider1
06-13-2007, 05:42 PM
Try going 50% or 25% fuel to reduce load. Still dicey with full loadout. If you want some bang power, select the Tiny Tim's with the drop tank but drop the tank on the deck before starting your take-off roll.It doesn't catch fire when I do it.
Keep your canopy closed for take-off. Try no flaps until the tail comes up (next to the conning tower), then go to take-off flaps. Get the gear going up the very instant you leave the deck.I hit it when the end of the deck is just about at my prop.
Re-read all the excellent advice above.
Practice on large carriers to get the hang of it before you try it off the escorts.
Hope that helps you, m8.
Cheers!
Strider1

Skunk_438RCAF
06-13-2007, 06:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bmoffa:
OK. The carrier is moving. I'm carrying a full load of bombs and rokets. This mission is actually a sample that came with Mission Mate. I have taken off successfully in one or two of the original campain missions that came with 1946. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That sort of load out was for Corsairs taking off from coral island runways, not from carriers. Does the mission require you to take a full load of bombs and rockets or is this a personal choice? What are your wingmen carrying?

SidCheshire
06-13-2007, 06:14 PM
I have found that the prep. list you use is OK apart from the fact that I don't lock the tailwheel and that I don't start to apply flaps until I have reached the tower on the right - I have flaps mapped to the rocker on my X45 and also the left pedal switch on the Saitek pedals - I use the latter for carrier takeoffs.

Other posters are right, you need to find the balance between fuel and weapon loadout. It is unlikely that you will get airborne with a heavy weapons loadout and a lot of fuel....

Try Zeus-cats "Straight from the Farm", great for take-off/landing basics, carriers included http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

bmoffa
06-13-2007, 06:57 PM
I just checked the mission details. My airplane is carrying 2 x 500 lb. bombs and 8 rockets. The fuel load is 80%. There are 3 groups of 3 aiplanes loaded the same way and one more group of 4 carrying the default loadout. I'm in the first group of 3. After I get wet I watch all the AIs take off. They make it, but just barely. It looks like they come withing inches of the water.

I think I'm going to modify the mission. Rockets should be enough to do the job.

Korolov1986
06-13-2007, 08:22 PM
You can actually get off a moving Essex class carrier with 3x1000lb bombs and 8xAPHVAR with 75% fuel.

It's difficult, but I've done it. The key is to use rudder.

Roblex
06-14-2007, 12:00 AM
I find the most common mistake people make is to panick and yank back on the stick when they see they are not climbing.

Don't aim to gain (or even 'hold') altitude as soon as you clear the deck; aim to level out just above the waves and hold it there until you have enough speed to gently climb. You will need to raise the gear as soon as you clear the deck of course and raise the flaps in stages when safe to do so.

GADGET_101ECV
06-14-2007, 03:23 AM
Let's check the procedure. I have corrected also the order of items:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">OK. What am I doing wrong? This is what I do:
<span class="ev_code_RED">- TRIM ELEVATOR AND RUDDER AS REQUIRED</span>
-Open radiator <span class="ev_code_RED">- RADIATOR HAS AN EXAGERATED EFFECT ON IL-2. DO NOT TOUCH IT UNTIL AIRBORNE</span>
-Mixture to 120%
-Prop pitch to 100 <span class="ev_code_RED">- DO NOT TOUCH PITCH, LEAVE THE CONSTANT SPEED PROP IN AUTO AT 2700 RPM</span>
-Start engine
-Flaps to takeoff position
-Lock tail wheel <span class="ev_code_RED">- NOT NECESSARY. KEEP CONTROL MANUALLY</span>
-Slowly throttle up all the way 110%
-Chocks away
-Release brakes -<span class="ev_code_RED">- DO NOT EVEN TOUCH THE BRAKES... WHAT FOR IF YOU HAVE CHOCKS IN ALREADY?</span>

I roll striaght down the deck. As soon as I'm over the water I retract landing gear while pulling up <span class="ev_code_RED">VERY VERY VERY</span>
gently. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The Corsair is known for not being able to take weight off the deck. In Korea there were times in summer where it could only take off with 4 rockets and 75% fuel. Check your load and stay on the light side.

Calibrate your joystick acordingly. Either use iL-2 tool, or Saitek/TM/CH routine, but not both. I do recommend the joystick manufacturer calibrating tool and set iL-2 HARDWARE slides all at 100% in all axes, NO DEAD ZONE, and NO DUMPING.

If still having problems, try taking off with other airplanes firs, sucha as A6M, F6F, etc. The Corsair is by far the hardest to take off the deck.

rawheid_rex
06-14-2007, 03:26 AM
Yep, Trimming the elevator helps a lot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

bmoffa
06-14-2007, 07:30 AM
OK. I can get off without the bombs. But I really want to get this right. I understand most of what you guys are telling me. But, I'm not sure what you mean by "trimming the elevator". Is that not the same affect as pulling back on the stick slightly?

R988z
06-14-2007, 10:41 AM
I usually trim elevator nose down so I get more speed, sometimes I will push the stick forward to get the tail up earlier. I also go for full landing flaps and generous rudder use, just let the aircraft sort of fall down a bit so it gains the crucial extra few mph of speed. The radiator does nothing for F4U in this game so keep it closed.