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mortoma
02-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Nice one Giants!! And justice prevails for the Pats!!! Good one for Peyton's brother.

mortoma
02-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Nice one Giants!! And justice prevails for the Pats!!! Good one for Peyton's brother.

R_Target
02-03-2008, 08:09 PM
New York Football Giants FTW. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Swivet
02-03-2008, 08:10 PM
GO BIG BLUE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif.....Walk the tunnel Pats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

SeaFireLIV
02-03-2008, 08:13 PM
Ignore me, I read the title completely wrong.

R_Target
02-03-2008, 08:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Swivet:
Walk the tunnel Pats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's always next year. Or....never again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

stalkervision
02-03-2008, 08:17 PM
well the pats have just won so darn much I guess some lower class team deserves to win once huh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif The Pats looked more then a bit flat tonight and I believe brady was hurting as they said before the game. He just didn't seem to get very much on the ball all night long.

The Giants took advantage of that and won. All and all not a bad game except New England wasn't their usual selves. Made for a better game even if they let it slip by them this time.

rileyjams
02-03-2008, 08:21 PM
Take that Tom Brady! You and your......perfectly.......shaped......guuuhhh..... .

jadger
02-03-2008, 08:21 PM
I was disappointed with the coverage Fox had. Not only did the commercials suck, but every time there was a penalty against the Pats or a no call against the Giants, they cut to the announcers instead of showing a replay. I'm trying to watch the game, not watch the talking heads bob up and down.

stalkervision
02-03-2008, 08:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
I was disappointed with the coverage Fox had. Not only did the commercials suck, but every time there was a penalty against the Pats or a no call against the Giants, they cut to the announcers instead of showing a replay. I'm trying to watch the game, not watch the talking heads bob up and down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate the stupid announcers they have in these games..

Don't you just love "the women's view" segments with various bimbets that know **** about the sport and are just hired because they need a women on the show.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

stalkervision
02-03-2008, 08:30 PM
Oh and another thing. I found the "Puppy Bowl" more interesting then this Superbowl. Great action there unlike most of the game.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Liked the half time with Tom Petty though.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Tab_Flettner
02-03-2008, 08:45 PM
For those who missed Puppy Bowl IV

http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/video/video.html

mortoma
02-03-2008, 08:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
I was disappointed with the coverage Fox had. Not only did the commercials suck, but every time there was a penalty against the Pats or a no call against the Giants, they cut to the announcers instead of showing a replay. I'm trying to watch the game, not watch the talking heads bob up and down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate the stupid announcers they have in these games..

Don't you just love "the women's view" segments with various bimbets that know **** about the sport and are just hired because they need a women on the show.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I know what you mean, that one black lady was saying something about the Giants not being able to capitaize in the "green zone"!! It was right after half time I think. Doh!!!!!

stalkervision
02-03-2008, 08:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tab_Flettner:
For those who missed Puppy Bowl IV

http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/video/video.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love the puppy bowl. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Doolittle81
02-03-2008, 08:54 PM
The Patriots' offensive line failed miserably! They were a joke.

As for penalities, it seemed to me there were very few. A couple of "holding", a couple of false starts, no 'personals" as I recall....No face masks, no late hits, no roughing passers or kickers,no pass interference....Only one challenged play...and that one just for too many players on the field.. Bottom line: nothing was worth watching in a replay.

All in all an extremely Boring game.

woofiedog
02-03-2008, 09:01 PM
I give the Giants their do reward... all said and done. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

The Giant's Won... Pat's lost.

arjisme
02-03-2008, 09:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doolittle81:All in all an extremely Boring game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Someone check this guy's pulse. Boring? Not in the least.

knightflyte
02-03-2008, 09:15 PM
It definately wasn't because the Pat's stunk tonight that the Giants won. They all played their heart out. Strahan had a Reggie White night. Unenyiora was unstoppable.

The Pat's defensive backs did well, but not well enough on several plays.

Manning really came into his own.

As a football fan, this was a good game. I'm dissappointed as a Pat's fan, but I can't biotch too badly.

I'd have dinked and dunked the last posession to get into field goal range instead of relying on four hail mary passes. I'd have gone no huddle sooner, but the Giants really stepped up.


Congrats Giant Fans. Enjoy the win.

Wepps
02-03-2008, 09:26 PM
Never thought I'd see a good Super Bowl again.

WeedEater9p
02-03-2008, 09:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Congrats Giant Fans. Enjoy the win. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks we will! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/jaketheace/IL2/Giants08.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/jaketheace/IL2/BigBlue.jpg

na85
02-03-2008, 09:29 PM
Didn't see that one coming. I bet some bookies lost a lot of money on it.

zardozid
02-03-2008, 09:31 PM
http://texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/charlie_brown_lucy_football.jpg

heywooood
02-03-2008, 09:37 PM
*POP*

the 73 Dolphins and Don Shula were sweating that one....but the Champaign bottles are being uncorked in Miami tonight

Do the Pasties get to remember this season as a great one...or...

tjaika1910
02-03-2008, 09:46 PM
I'll guess one must know a game to appreciate it. It tried to look at it, but it was commercial breaks all the time and for me it looked like nothing happend in a hour or so. Without beer and screaming friends and the slightest understanding of the game I found it completely boring. Funny though when they announced a world champion after winning a national game.

I'll guess football will look as boring for you american football fans though. (you call that soccer right?)

heywooood
02-03-2008, 09:53 PM
you are right on both counts - the NFL is utterly a commercial product, owned by corporate concerns outright - and we could care less about soccer.

and the Megalomaniacal reference to a 'world champion' is also inappropriate - agreed...MLB does that too...'world series'???? emmm No.

crucislancer
02-03-2008, 10:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wepps:
Never thought I'd see a good Super Bowl again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No doubt. Low score, lots of great plays all around. I was on the edge of my seat until that last "hail mary". The only thing that I didn't like was the fact that the Pats lost, but then again it's nice to see the underdog pull it off.

BoCfuss
02-03-2008, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tjaika1910:
I'll guess one must know a game to appreciate it. It tried to look at it, but it was commercial breaks all the time and for me it looked like nothing happend in a hour or so. Without beer and screaming friends and the slightest understanding of the game I found it completely boring. Funny though when they announced a world champion after winning a national game.

I'll guess football will look as boring for you american football fans though. (you call that soccer right?) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can see where your coming from, and I agree. Pro Football is so commercial it is pathetic. Anything on Fox is twice as bad and the Superbowl is always one Giant(hehe) commercial. They are world champs as no one else plays the game, except Canada(but that doesn't really count).

Yes soccer is just as boring. I still find it funny that the U.S. soccer team is as good as they are and it is such a niche sport here. Just be glad it is, otherwise we would dominate that too, and the rest of the world would hate us for yet one more thing.

knightflyte
02-03-2008, 11:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zardozid:
http://texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/charlie_brown_lucy_football.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


As far as commercials go. I did like the Coke commercial with Stewie and Underdog. Glad a real underdog like Charlie Brown got the Coke.

jadger
02-04-2008, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> They are world champs as no one else plays the game, except Canada(but that doesn't really count). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? because we invented the game and our teams play for the one of the oldest trophies in the world? Or because it is a tougher game that isn't played indoors like you sissys in Arizona? I bet you didn't even know that one football player almost drowned when he was tackled, that's how bad the mud was in one Grey Cup.

P.S. If you say we didn't invent the game, look it up, the first football game was played at Harvard, but what were the teams? McGill was showing off their brand of (rugby) football to the Yankees, and look who copied it.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Yes soccer is just as boring. I still find it funny that the U.S. soccer team is as good as they are and it is such a niche sport here. Just be glad it is, otherwise we would dominate that too, and the rest of the world would hate us for yet one more thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Freddy "crappy" Adu anyone? and it aint a niche sport in North America, TFC sold out every single game this last season, without Beckham. and has a 10 000 person waiting list for season seats if they open up. I know, I have 2 season tickets in section 107

jadger
02-04-2008, 02:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
*POP*

the 73 Dolphins and Don Shula were sweating that one....but the Champaign bottles are being uncorked in Miami tonight

Do the Pasties get to remember this season as a great one...or... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's this heywooood? I was for sure you'd be saying "i told you so" since after all, the NFL is a commercial enterprise, they had nothing to gain by having a team go 19-0 whereas everything to gain by having an underdog win against an undefeated team. They'll lose fans with a 19-0 pats as they will see it as uncompetitive, whereas Giants winning will mean major increase the fanbase more (albeit artificially with a bunch of bandwagonners)

I doubt hollywood could write a better script (as if they hadnt written it in the first place), and I bet they probably have the script written up and are talking Brad Pitt into starring, as Eli Manning of course.

Airmail109
02-04-2008, 03:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
I was disappointed with the coverage Fox had. Not only did the commercials suck, but every time there was a penalty against the Pats or a no call against the Giants, they cut to the announcers instead of showing a replay. I'm trying to watch the game, not watch the talking heads bob up and down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I watched it on the BBC you should to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I_JG78_Max
02-04-2008, 03:42 AM
Watched it on ARD (german television). Not a single commercial break! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I_KG100_Prien
02-04-2008, 03:46 AM
That was one hell of a game. Had me on the edge of my seat at the end. Those who say it was boring don't know what good football is. Both teams played hard, and it was so satisfying to watch the Patriots and their cocky, jack-hole, pretty boy QB take the walk of shame down the tunnel. It was also great watching Belichek(sp) give an interview on the edge of tears at the end.

Brady didn't play like he was hurt.. He was playing like a QB that got stuffed by a defensive line all night. Sacked 5 times and knocked down over 10. He had a bullseye on him be sure.

ephemere1962
02-04-2008, 04:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
Why not? because we invented the game
.../...
P.S. If you say we didn't invent the game, look it up, the first football game was played at Harvard, but what were the teams? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You didn't invent much, it's 95% copied on Canadian Football and was codified before American football.

In any case... both are perversion of Rugby Football... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG52MadAdler
02-04-2008, 05:00 AM
In Brady's defense he did exactly what a great quarterback should do. He stood in there and took the hits. He lead his team down the field and scored the go ahead TD leaving 2 minutes on the clock. The Pats "D" blew it.
It was a war and as you know, war is hell!

Giants defense was super.

roybaty
02-04-2008, 05:33 AM
Yep Brady did well but the Giants kept breaking though. The Pats offensive line were just too slow to keep the Giants from hitting Brady.

Okay back to sulking.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52MadAdler:
In Brady's defense he did exactly what a great quarterback should do. He stood in there and took the hits. He lead his team down the field and scored the go ahead TD leaving 2 minutes on the clock. The Pats "D" blew it.
It was a war and as you know, war is hell!

Giants defense was super. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Worf101
02-04-2008, 06:18 AM
Wait!!!!

That popping noise?

What was that?

Oh that was just Tiki Barber stickin' a '45 in his mouth.

Congrats Big Blue on a great, great game. I'm not a Giants fan like Bearcat. I'm from the Raider Nation so "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". I've never been happier to see a team defeated. I've hated the Pats since the infamoust "tuck rule" screwing the Raiders got years ago. Sorry Pats, underfeated, perfect... NEVER!!!!

Da Worfster

PS, nice job walking off the field like PAB's too.

stalkervision
02-04-2008, 06:26 AM
The truth is the pats have been losing steam for quite a while now. Each game they have played in recent times has been a nail bit-er. I think it is because the team has good players but they are getting a bit long in the tooth. Got to get some fresh blood into the patriot line up. I had a feeling the Giants would win just because of this and i was right. The Pats haven't been the team they have been in the past for a while.

Hate to say this but Brady and the Pats offense seemed to only come alive when they were down in points. Eventially it came back to get them. If they had more time they would have won the game but they played so lathargically through most of it they just ran out of time to come back.

leitmotiv
02-04-2008, 06:33 AM
It was the rarest of Superbowls---a real hard-fought game right down to the, laterally, last second. Usually the Superbowl is the dreariest game of the season. The Giants players have good reason to feel like gods among men today. The Patriots coach showed real class by rushing to congratulate the victor. A rare sight in sport these days.

han freak solo
02-04-2008, 06:35 AM
Congrats to the Giants! The last 5 minutes of that game were pretty incredible. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

The commercials were fairly lame this year, but I did like the FedEx one with the humongous carrier pigeons.

Blutarski2004
02-04-2008, 06:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
The truth is the pats have been losing steam for quite a while now. Each game they have played in recent times has been a nail bit-er. I think it is because the team has good players but they are getting a bit long in the tooth. Got to get some fresh blood into the patriot line up. I had a feeling the Giants would win just because of this and i was right. The Pats haven't been the team they have been in the past for a while.

Hate to say this but Brady and the Pats offense seemed to only come alive when they were down in points. Eventially it came back to get them. If they had more time they would have won the game but they played so lathargically through most of it they just ran out of time to come back. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... The Giants absolutely deserved to win that game. Their defense was sensational, altho I wonder whether Brady was playing hurt as well. It might have been the intense pressure from the pass rush, but he was just not throwing with his customary zing.

Still and all, the Pats had opportunities to pull the game out at the end - the missed sack of Manning and two or three near interceptions in the last Giants TD drive - but the football gods deemed otherwise.

Great game and hats off to the Giants for a memorable effort.

BOA_Allmenroder
02-04-2008, 06:57 AM
With appologies to Herb Brooks:

"If you lose this one, you'll take it to your f***ing graves.....your f***ing graves."

This will be the legacy of the Pats team: they'll never erase this, no matter what they do.

crucislancer
02-04-2008, 07:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> They are world champs as no one else plays the game, except Canada(but that doesn't really count). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? because we invented the game and our teams play for the one of the oldest trophies in the world? Or because it is a tougher game that isn't played indoors like you sissys in Arizona? I bet you didn't even know that one football player almost drowned when he was tackled, that's how bad the mud was in one Grey Cup.

P.S. If you say we didn't invent the game, look it up, the first football game was played at Harvard, but what were the teams? McGill was showing off their brand of (rugby) football to the Yankees, and look who copied it.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While I agree that BoCfuss' post was completely wrong, you should damn well know that American Football is anything but "sissy". Yeah, some stadiums are covered, but quite a few aren't. I've seen some crazy games in the mud, rain, and snow. And some of the injuries? Come on. This isn't a sissy game. Yup, Canada came up with it first. I don't think anyone denied that.

Oh, and it is played all over the world. I could see it would be possible, though long and involved, to have a true worldwide championship. Maybe that will come to pass one of these days.

Swivet
02-04-2008, 08:13 AM
Yeh Big Blue and my personal salute to them!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Swivet/NY_P51.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Swivet/NY5_P51.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Swivet/NY3_P51.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Swivet/NY2_P51.jpg

Bearcat99
02-04-2008, 08:45 AM
Hey Joe thats a sweet skin man.....

jadger
02-04-2008, 09:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ephemere1962:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
Why not? because we invented the game
.../...
P.S. If you say we didn't invent the game, look it up, the first football game was played at Harvard, but what were the teams? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You didn't invent much, it's 95% copied on Canadian Football and was codified before American football.

In any case... both are perversion of Rugby Football... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am Canadian, hence why I said we invented the game. I thought that would have been obvious by the rest of my post

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> While I agree that BoCfuss' post was completely wrong, you should damn well know that American Football is anything but "sissy". Yeah, some stadiums are covered, but quite a few aren't. I've seen some crazy games in the mud, rain, and snow. And some of the injuries? Come on. This isn't a sissy game. Yup, Canada came up with it first. I don't think anyone denied that.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4dXG4EkBkaw

willyvic
02-04-2008, 09:25 AM
Congrats to the NY Giants. Great defense and, at times, the luckiest offense during a game in recent years. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But it takes skill AND a bit of luck for any team to win.

WV

crucislancer
02-04-2008, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4dXG4EkBkaw </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's the point here? I've seen just as bad in the NFL.

Paladin851
02-04-2008, 09:33 AM
That was one heck of a good game !!! Eli did well ,not ready to move him up to the Conerly,Tittle,Sims category just yet but he is getting there.The defense brought back found memories from the good old days.

Hkuusela
02-04-2008, 09:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BoCfuss:
They are world champs as no one else plays the game, except Canada(but that doesn't really count). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
American football is played all over the world. There have been several foreign players in the the NCAA as well as even the NFL. There was even a world championship tournament played in Japan, but as far as I know, this was a pure amateur tournament. Naturally NFL has no match in the world, so I think it is justified to call the Super Bowl champions the world champions. However, the rest of the world is slowly catching up.

DrHerb
02-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Yep.....it was nice to see Tom Brady on his back so many times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, it was a great defencive game. New York deserved it imho

ephemere1962
02-04-2008, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
I am Canadian, hence why I said we invented the game. I thought that would have been obvious by the rest of my post
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wasn't obvious to me (should be my bad english). Sorry for missunderstanding.

But in any case, Rugby is the only real stuf... all what came after is only bad copies... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jadger
02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crucislancer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4dXG4EkBkaw </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's the point here? I've seen just as bad in the NFL. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

really? when did someone drown in the superbowl?

Urufu_Shinjiro
02-04-2008, 10:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
really? when did someone drown in the superbowl? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When? Last night, the entire new england team, lol.

horseback
02-04-2008, 10:54 AM
As I posted in the 'other' thread, if the officials called a 'straight up' game, the Giants would win. Without a home-field advantage, plus the international scrutiny of the world, the refs could not let the Pats' offensive line get away with their usual 'stuff'. That left Brady in jeopardy, especially with a slightly gimpy ankle.

Strahan & Associates won that game, although Eli's escape act in the final drive, coupled with that fantastic catch by Tyree, was by far the most dramatic play in the history of the Superbowl.

TBH, I didn't care for either team, so whoever lost, I'd be happy about that, and frustrated that the other team won.

But it was a great game, purely on its merits.

cheers,

horseback

crucislancer
02-04-2008, 11:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crucislancer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4dXG4EkBkaw </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's the point here? I've seen just as bad in the NFL. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

really? when did someone drown in the superbowl? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one that I know of. I didn't watch the whole video, so I wasn't commenting on a drowning. I was commenting on the mud, which is what I thought your point was.

R_Target
02-04-2008, 11:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
When? Last night, the entire new england team, lol. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO! Drowning in a sea of tears. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
02-04-2008, 11:22 AM
Never been so happy for another team to win other then the Steelers! Way to go Gmen! Such a sweet feeling it must be so congrats to all the NYG fans!

S!

knightflyte
02-04-2008, 03:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DrHerb:
Yep.....it was nice to see Tom Brady on his back so many times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, it was a great defencive game. New York deserved it imho </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Giants didn't deserve to win. They EARNED and worked for it. They took the Lombardi
Trophie out of the hands of the underestimating football fans and pundits.

I know I'm splitting hairs, but the Patriots didn't roll over and give them the game. It was hard fought on both sides.

I'm dissappointed the Pats lost, but that really was a good game. I don't see how any fan of football can't come away with the feeling that this is one of the best games played in a long time.

Hey. Did they show the twelth man on the field on the jumbotron? Or was it a coach in an upper booth that told Bill to challenge the guy running off the field?

Blutarski2004
02-04-2008, 04:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by knightflyte:
Hey. Did they show the twelth man on the field on the jumbotron? Or was it a coach in an upper booth that told Bill to challenge the guy running off the field? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... It was a downlink feed from the satellite.

stalkervision
02-04-2008, 05:04 PM
The giants did indeed deserve to win it. They earned it yes. No, the Pats didn't roll over and play dead but they sure didn't play like they can play and played in the past. I believe brady was the center of the problem. I believe he was still hurting as was reported a week ago. He didn't throw anything that required him to move around the field whatsoever. No "screen plays" to take care of all of the rushing Giants line men WTF! They weren't even called! He didn't even attempt to scramble out of the pocket when he was in danger. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif He also didn't have the usual Brady zing on any of his footballs. Hell, I watched him toss an high floater over a totally open receiver in the end zone! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Was it the best super bowl ever like some people have the nerve to say. Not by a LONG shot.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

BoCfuss
02-04-2008, 06:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> They are world champs as no one else plays the game, except Canada(but that doesn't really count). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? because we invented the game and our teams play for the one of the oldest trophies in the world? Or because it is a tougher game that isn't played indoors like you sissys in Arizona? I bet you didn't even know that one football player almost drowned when he was tackled, that's how bad the mud was in one Grey Cup.

P.S. If you say we didn't invent the game, look it up, the first football game was played at Harvard, but what were the teams? McGill was showing off their brand of (rugby) football to the Yankees, and look who copied it.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Yes soccer is just as boring. I still find it funny that the U.S. soccer team is as good as they are and it is such a niche sport here. Just be glad it is, otherwise we would dominate that too, and the rest of the world would hate us for yet one more thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Freddy "crappy" Adu anyone? and it aint a niche sport in North America, TFC sold out every single game this last season, without Beckham. and has a 10 000 person waiting list for season seats if they open up. I know, I have 2 season tickets in section 107 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1. I never said that the U.S. invented it. Who cares, whats your point. Canada doesn't count because their favorite sport is hockey, and the grey cup is full of losers who couldn't make it on an NFL team.

2. I love "soccer" but it is a niche sport. It comes in a close 5th place in money in the U.S. Its a niche sport in the U.S. Not North America. Canadians and Mexicans love soccer much more then we do, still we kick the **** out of them year in year out. The best athletes in the U.S. play football and basketball. In Canada the best athletes play hockey.

3. The U.S. does have a lot of covered stadiums and the NFL hates muddy games. Miami at Pittsburg comes to mind though, it was as muddy a game as I've ever seen. That doesn't make it better, it makes it worse in my opinion. The NFL still has its share of broken bones and necks, I wouldn't call it sissy.

4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please.

heywooood
02-04-2008, 08:25 PM
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it.

jadger
02-05-2008, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Curling is only popular out west. just look at the Bryer last year for instance to prove that.
CFL football is not behind lacrosse, the pro lacrosse league just folded this year, whereas the CFL is going strong.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was just an example, there have been many more examples, try looking it up instead of just talking out of your ***.

BoCfuss
02-05-2008, 06:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was just an example, there have been many more examples, try looking it up instead of just talking out of your ***. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try pulling your head out of yours first. Try looking what up?

I never said Canadian football was a sissy sport. I don't think it is. I don't think soccer is sissy, even when women play it. I don't even think golf is sissy. Calling something sissy is a last resort when you have nothing else to say. Just like name calling.

heywooood
02-05-2008, 07:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Curling is only popular out west. just look at the Bryer last year for instance to prove that.
CFL football is not behind lacrosse, the pro lacrosse league just folded this year, whereas the CFL is going strong.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was just an example, there have been many more examples, try looking it up instead of just talking out of your ***. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lighten up, Francis

jadger
02-05-2008, 11:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BoCfuss:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was just an example, there have been many more examples, try looking it up instead of just talking out of your ***. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try pulling your head out of yours first. Try looking what up?

I never said Canadian football was a sissy sport. I don't think it is. I don't think soccer is sissy, even when women play it. I don't even think golf is sissy. Calling something sissy is a last resort when you have nothing else to say. Just like name calling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

something to look up, hhhmmm... the topic we've been talking about, that's a good place to start. CFl football, famous Grey Cups for instance.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> lighten up, Francis
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This coming from Mr Conspiracy theory against the Bolts?

horseback
02-06-2008, 11:18 AM
jadger, the difference between the Grey Cup and the Superbowl is that the Grey Cup is and has always been a league championship played at one of the participants' home fields, and the Superbowl was originally an interleague championship, analogous to a college bowl game.

Therefore, the Superbowl was assigned to a 'neutral' site that could be expected to provide good weather and field conditions for the best display of the teams' skills and lots of diversions & amenities for the fans who come to the game.

Unfortunately, the spectacle aspect tends to overwhelm the championship aspect of the contest, and often one of the participating teams has been distracted by it, losing badly.

But the whole "our form of the sport is tougher than yours is " routine is getting tired.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Is it tougher because your teams have superior athletes?</span> NO--a lot of CFL stars are guys deemed not good enough for the NFL, and most are smaller, slower, and less skilled than their NFL counterparts.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Is it tougher because you play in more severe weather on poorer playing surfaces?</span> More legitimate, but specious to anyone who watched any of the NFL playoff games in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Foxboro. Cold cruddy weather is hardly a Canadian monopoly, and you've obviously never considered what it's like to play in Miami or Arizona in September (two very different things, and even though Arizona finally got a dome, you still have to deal with a humidity level that rivals the Arabian desert).

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Is it because you play on a wider and longer field, with a 'plus sized' end zone?</span> Is it 'tougher' to cater to the small fast guys by giving them extra space to maneuver? NFL running backs MUST be able to run inside the tackles--how is that less tough than sprinting outside the big strong guys? Darren Sproles would be a superstar in Canada; he's the third back in San Diego. 'Nuff said.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Finally, is it tougher because Canadian League players play 'rougher' and get hurt more often?</span> NO--because if the talent were as high priced and as hard to replace at the starters' level as in the NFL, you can bet that CFL Powers-That-Be would move quickly to protect their investments the same way the NFL has.

Referencing a 1951 Grey Cup vs the modern NFL is bogus; take a look at the way NFL guys like 'Night Train' Lane and **** Butkus were taking people out in the 1950s and '60s, and tell me that isn't a lot closer to the kind of 'toughness' you yap about. It's a different era, with different rules and a lower level of sophistication.

cheers

horseback

heywooood
02-06-2008, 06:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BoCfuss:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jadger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sorry - Canada's favorite sport is Curling though they wont admit it...thats to them what baseball is to us...
Hockey is Canada's NFL and the sport they 'claim' is number one.
Canadian football is behind Lacrosse which is like the NBA is to the US and then comes the lumberjack competition so I think that covers it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 4. Someone "almost" drowns at a football game. Well that proves it, Canadian football is tough, and the NFL is sissy. Please </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was just an example, there have been many more examples, try looking it up instead of just talking out of your ***. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try pulling your head out of yours first. Try looking what up?

I never said Canadian football was a sissy sport. I don't think it is. I don't think soccer is sissy, even when women play it. I don't even think golf is sissy. Calling something sissy is a last resort when you have nothing else to say. Just like name calling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

something to look up, hhhmmm... the topic we've been talking about, that's a good place to start. CFl football, famous Grey Cups for instance.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> lighten up, Francis
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This coming from Mr Conspiracy theory against the Bolts? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah that was fun... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

han freak solo
02-06-2008, 10:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by horseback:
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Is it tougher because your teams have superior athletes?</span> NO--a lot of CFL stars are guys deemed not good enough for the NFL, and most are smaller, slower, and less skilled than their NFL counterparts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some just get no NFL respect until they prove themselves in the CFL. Then it's a harder go in the NFL for sure.

Example that I saw personally in NFL form in Houston: Warren Moon

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/log/images/PICTURE_log09.gif http://www.beatingtheodds.org/images/qbclub/warren%20moon.jpg

Warren Moon: Began pro career with CFL's Edmonton Eskimos (1978-1983), winning five straight Grey Cups ... Signed with NFL's Houston Oilers as an unrestricted free agent in 1984 ... In NFL career, completed 3,988 of 6,823 passes for 49,325 yards, 291 touchdowns and 233 interceptions ... At retirement, his pass attempts, completions, passing yardage and total offense totals all ranked third all-time. His TD total was fourth ... His nine 3,000-yard passing seasons was third in league history ... His number of 300-yard passing games " 49 " are third in the NFL behind Hall of Famers Dan Marino (60) and Dan Fouts (51) ... Recorded a then-record nine 300-yard games in 1990, including a 527-yard effort at Kansas City, second-most in NFL history ... Holds record for quarterbacks with eight straight Pro Bowl selections (1988-1995 seasons) and added a ninth following the 1997 season ... Signed as a free agent in 1997 with the Seahawks, where he set franchise records for completions (313) and passing yards (3,678).

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">No Superbowl for Mr. Moon no matter how much I wished it.</span>

han freak solo
02-06-2008, 10:28 PM
You know, I went to the last Monday Night Football game the Oilers ever played and the Astrodome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrodome) ever saw.

The Oilers lost to who else but the New York Giants 13-10. Weird. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://drek.org/pages/pics/houston_astrodome.jpg

jadger
02-07-2008, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Is it tougher because your teams have superior athletes? NO--a lot of CFL stars are guys deemed not good enough for the NFL, and most are smaller, slower, and less skilled than their NFL counterparts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Up until the 70s the best American players came up here to play, for a couple of reasons. Reason 1: no colour barrier, blacks could play in the pro league all they wanted. reason 2: more valuable dollar and they got paid more in the CFL.