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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 12:43 AM
Hopefully its not more than a couple weeks off Can we get a maddox games guy in here who is willing to give us some hints on when it will be here? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Message Edited on 09/08/0311:44PM by Zacast

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 12:43 AM
Hopefully its not more than a couple weeks off Can we get a maddox games guy in here who is willing to give us some hints on when it will be here? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Message Edited on 09/08/0311:44PM by Zacast

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 01:52 AM
^^


Message Edited on 09/09/0312:52AM by Zacast

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 02:02 AM
I'm curious too,but it's better not to know when. If Ubi gives a release date and misses that date,there will be nothing but moaning and whining. I'd prefer to just log on some day and *POOF* there the add-on is for download./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 02:06 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif personally I wouldn't care if they missed their target date. It will be sort of fun to be surprised with that beautiful plane one day when I get home. I would just like to know if it will be within 2 weeks so I have SOME idea.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 02:12 AM
Zacast wrotehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gifersonally I wouldn't care if they missed their target date.

I wouldn't care either,but there are plenty of babies out there who would. It shouldn't be TOO long until the add-on,as Oleg said it'd be released soon after the Final patch. Then again,he said the patch would be released soon after FB was released,and we all know how that turned out./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif To be clear,I'm not bashing Oleg and have the greatest respect for him,I'm just saying...Anyway,two weeks sounds like a good guesstimation.

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Message Edited on 09/08/0308:13PM by necrobaron

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 06:54 AM
I wouldn't even mind if they scrapped the P51 all together.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 06:58 AM
LOL!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Somehow,I'm not suprised..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 07:31 AM
I think UBI is very shrewd in keeping the interest up on this game and LOMAC. People keep waiting for demos or patches and keep visiting boards while being treated to endless delays and teases.

Great way to build interest, don't you think?

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 07:41 AM
No actually it convinced me no to buy Lomac until after the first patch release. I am not going anywhere near that game or its board until at least 6 months post release.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 01:11 PM
Maybe it's not Oleg who's having the trouble, I mean, they did get that new 1.11 patch out quick and it solved a lot of problems, but maybe it's UBI's fault, maybe they're the ones that put out the patches months after they recieve them. I mean, they won't let LO-MAC out so it can get into a magazine, right???

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 01:52 PM
Oleg and Co.

It is time to give to us another notice about when we might be expecting the first add-on. It won't cost a penny to just let us know your approximate time table ...

in days, weeks, or months

not vague abstract relative prepositional terms ...

or definite official release dates ...

just a little more info,

please.

Thanx,

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 02:14 PM
Yes, give us the P-51 now. I am so curious to read the posts of the Mustang-Whiners !! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 12:05 AM
Really guys, they need to walk before they can run ... or put another way ... get the game fixed and working right before worrying about adding new content .. sound foobared again in the 1.11 patch.
Fix the basics then introduce new content ... that should be the priority, tho god knows its taken them long enough to "fix" the sound only for it still not to be right, so perhaps it is best they release content to keep everyone quiet ??



Message Edited on 09/11/0312:06AM by bartflaster1

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 12:25 AM
mustang whiners? why they would whine, it should be rocket if we compare it to P-39 FM http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 05:12 AM
You all know the p39 will shred the p51 in all areas.

Not because the p39 was better in reality, but because the russians touched it with their magic pixie dust and thus it must totally kick the mustangs butt performance wise.

Remember, "mustang NOT liked by russains, thus mustang sucks!"

Shame really.

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 05:42 AM
Wish I had some of that pixie dust.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:12 AM
Anything not Russian is not like by 1C,count me out for buying 1C's next sim, this potential this sim has had for being a realistic balanced sim has gone to waste.
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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:22 AM
Glassess wrote:<<Puts flame shield on>> Fire Away!


Bang,bang.....bang!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 09:49 AM
Falcon_41 wrote:
- It is time to give to us another notice about when
- we might be expecting the first add-on. It won't
- cost a penny to just let us know your approximate
- time table ...

Money is always a factor, in that a missed delivery
date is bad publicity, which may affect sales...

But then no promise of a delivery date may be bad
publicity which may affect sales...

Delivering a product with an inaccurate FM will
result in bad publicity which may affect sales...

Delivering a product with an accurate FM that doesn't
live up to History Channel hype will result in bad
publicity which may affect sales...

Basically he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't,
unless he can make a thing of such beauty that and
accuracy that it deflects the naysayers who feel that
the P51 won the war. Given that they've only just
got 1.11 out (probably some late nights there) I say
give them some time to get themselves back on track
first.

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 02:02 PM
Mates,

Oleg and a few others have already intimated that a particular set of a/c will be on the first free add on that will appear "soon". One of these a/c is the P-51. There are scores of other a/c that can be added later at a cost. People will pay for the Spitfire and the B-17 as quickly as they will for the Mustang.

I'm not worried and I'm in no hurry, but it would be nice to know more of their plans.


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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 02:37 PM
I am also cureous about the approximate release date for the add-on CD. Would the holiday season be appropriate? Next Spring or Summer?

A general time frame would be welcomed.

Hunter82
09-11-2003, 05:59 PM
incorrect.


Boosher-PBNA wrote:
- Maybe it's not Oleg who's having the trouble, I
- mean, they did get that new 1.11 patch out quick and
- it solved a lot of problems, but maybe it's UBI's
- fault, maybe they're the ones that put out the
- patches months after they recieve them. I mean, they
- won't let LO-MAC out so it can get into a magazine,
- right???
-
- Boosher-PBNA


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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:32 PM
ubis philosophy

make you wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

then let you down


wait wait


let you down


wait

let you down more

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:43 PM
Warbirds survived just fine with a less than uber Mustang. The airplane was very fast, with a good high speed roll rate and dive, but it only had a moderate turn, climb and acceleration performance.

Modelled that way, it should still be solid competition for many of the aircraft in the game, with nearly the speed of a K-4 and La-7, with much better energy retention, and better performance on the deck than the 109, though a slow turn rate.

By the way, the Russians were very enthusiastic about the P-51, and would have loved to acquire many of them. However, we were less than interested in selling them.

In fact, I don't know of any major power, or pilot who wasn't enthusiastic about the Mustange. Even Suburo Saki loved it.

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:43 PM
CrackFerret wrote:
- You all know the p39 will shred the p51 in all
- areas.
-
- Not because the p39 was better in reality, but
- because the russians touched it with their magic
- pixie dust and thus it must totally kick the
- mustangs butt performance wise.
-
- Remember, "mustang NOT liked by russains, thus
- mustang sucks!"
-
- Shame really.
-
What makes you think that? there where 6 of the earlier Allison Mustangs in the USSR and they where wild about it (in the positve way) but, politics prevented them that they got more.



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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 07:12 PM
Le Bump!

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 07:19 PM
Die Bump!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-12-2003, 01:28 PM
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XyZspineZyX
09-12-2003, 01:46 PM
HarryVoyager wrote:
- Warbirds survived just fine with a less than uber
- Mustang. The airplane was very fast, with a good
- high speed roll rate and dive, but it only had a
- moderate turn, climb and acceleration performance.

Moderate turn and acceleration would be accurate, though.
(Don't know about climb).

XyZspineZyX
09-12-2003, 03:42 PM
KG26 Thief wrote: I wouldn't even mind if they scrapped the P51 all together.



why??? cause ur afraid of it?? LOL just kidding really. I want to see all the planes added. Even tho i fly the Jug all the time..I enjoy playing around with and even flying alot of other aircraft for fun. I think the more planes that are added the better the game gets.



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ZG77_Nagual
09-12-2003, 05:38 PM
Man some incredibly stupid and immature things get said on here.

Here is what I've heard about the p51

I think Oleg is modeling it
He posted a vvs test pilot review from ww2 in which the pilot spoke very favorably about the mustang
The mustang IS generally overrated - the things he has said that have been construed as negative about the mustang were probably meant to prepare those who idealize it fo the reality.
The flight modeling of the mustang will be very very very - there is a huge amount of information available about this plane - count on it.
The p39 will probably be a better low level dogfighter - the p63 most certainly will be superior - as are the yak 3, la5fn and la7. Alot of this will depend on your style and ability - and just basically what you like.

The thing about this simm's flight models that is really great is the way they are done you can make a go of it in pretty much any plane - if you are good. I think the mustang will be pretty good across the board - but you'll have to learn it's strengths and fly it. It'll be very effective in good hands - but also one of the favorite targets in the simm due to it's reputation.

There is no Russian bias - ridiculous - 109s and 190s are excellent planes. The only vvs planes I fly with any consistency are the p39 and p47 - but most often I fly the 190 - 109 occasionally. Oleg personally flys the 109 mostly.

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XyZspineZyX
09-12-2003, 10:09 PM
de la beump

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XyZspineZyX
09-12-2003, 10:28 PM
Nagual, I too agree that there isn't any russian bias in this game. Just because they are russian developers doesn't mean they undermodel certain non russian planes. All flight sims based on WW2 have some planes modeled in a way which makes some people cry "nerf".

I have total confidence in Olegs abillity to model a great realistic P-51D. There are so many of the things flying around, so much hard data on how it would perform, and so many people who actually flew the thing. It will probobly be the most accuractly modeled plane in FB.

XyZspineZyX
09-13-2003, 12:44 AM
It's due out in free add on in October along with Zero and a few other goodies.

Sorry if someone else said above, I have short attention span.

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