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VMF-214_HaVoK
08-29-2007, 03:57 PM
Are you people entertained by Chef Gordon Ramsay as much as I? First time I saw the chap was on Hells Kitchen, the US show. But since I got the BBC channel I have watched several different shows he is involved with like Kitchen Nightmares. I recently saw there is a US version in the works. I absolutely love food and find I cant get enough of this guy. He cracks me up! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So have any of you had a chance to eat at any of his establishments in London? I find myself watching Food Network as much as I watch the Military Channel. Am I odd? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

S!

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-29-2007, 03:57 PM
Are you people entertained by Chef Gordon Ramsay as much as I? First time I saw the chap was on Hells Kitchen, the US show. But since I got the BBC channel I have watched several different shows he is involved with like Kitchen Nightmares. I recently saw there is a US version in the works. I absolutely love food and find I cant get enough of this guy. He cracks me up! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So have any of you had a chance to eat at any of his establishments in London? I find myself watching Food Network as much as I watch the Military Channel. Am I odd? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

S!

JG52Uther
08-29-2007, 04:01 PM
Personally,I quite like him.

Waldo.Pepper
08-29-2007, 04:23 PM
He should just change the name of his show to the F'ing Chef. The f'ing chef is f'ing awesome. Loved his appearance on Top Gear.

carts
08-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Yes,you are odd! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifThe guys a maniac!Still you cant argue that hes not passionate about food!
Saw an episode where he bought a piglet for home,reared it,let his kids look after it,then made them watch it being slaughtered when it was older,said that they needed to know where there food came from.
How to turn your kids veggie in one easy lesson http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-29-2007, 04:37 PM
Now, I can 'Eff & blind' with the best of them. But I feel Ramsay's language somewhat unsuitable for prime time broadcast (Low_Flyer in closet puritan shocker!). Granted he's not as precious or pretentious as a lot of 'celeb chefs', but if if I was getting one in to run a barbie for me it would be Ainsley Harriot - the guy just knows what he's doing when asked to muck in on his show.

R_Target
08-29-2007, 04:48 PM
Too much showbiz. Good chefs hire people they don't have to scream at.

Taylortony
08-29-2007, 06:55 PM
Yes I think he rocks, tell me we also get the US series on the UK Sat TV do you have the swearing bleeped out? I have seen 2 versions on the TV here, that with it still in and that with it bleeped out...... UK TV leaves it all in......... Also look out for his other programme series THE F WORD it is also a cookery one where he has teams in every week who like to cook doing a full 3 course service and are scored on how many pay for the meal........

He had Cliff Richard the singer on doing a blind wine tasting and one he didnt like was his own brand lol

MrMojok
08-29-2007, 06:59 PM
Here we get the BBC show "Kitchen Nightmares" but all the swearing has been edited out.

Taylortony
08-29-2007, 07:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MrMojok:
Here we get the BBC show "Kitchen Nightmares" but all the swearing has been edited out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In a way thats a shame..... but I could see it happening in the USA.

He only did the first series of Hells Kitchen in the UK, the ones after that were hosted by 2 chefs against each other, but it lost some of the magic......... they have just completed series 3 in the US with him and are starting series 4?

It must be a big hit there to get new series run if i am correct?

I watch the US series here....

Some of the classics from the F Word were his amnesty for bad Television Cooks Cookbooks which he shredded......... some people even sent his in lol, which he called them cheeky f****rs

Another was he had toilet rolls printed up with the faces off all the other TV chefs on to put in the toilets.....

He took the best recipies out off all the TV chef books and produced them, tested them on abandoned dogs from a home, then entered the best into a competition for homemade dog food...... one dog wouldn't even eat one......

I enjoyed the one when they went up to Norway? cut a hole in the ice then dove under it to catch king crabs and cooked them then and there.... superb

But it was his at home recipies and his step by step cooking guide i loved........ have tried several and they really are superb........

Not been to one of his establishments though.

Low_Flyer_MkVb your choice could do the dishes lol

R_Target I do think a lot is hype.... remember he has several establishments plus the commitment to these shows, so a lot of them must be left in the hands of other chefs to run......

-HH-Quazi
08-30-2007, 12:15 AM
You & I are in the same boat so to speak Havok as I also have been watching the Food Network as much as any other television channel. And Ramsay ROCKS! I like it when he comes in and changes the menu on failing restaurants & pubs so that they are making more money and serving better food, only to re-visit some time later & find that the chef(s) have went back to serving their old menu once again. It really whizzes him off, HEHE.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2007, 01:17 AM
Good stuff indeed. I really enjoy watching "Good Eats" and "Dinner Impossible" as well.

But my favorite is "Everyday Italian" with the stunning Giada De Laurentiis. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

MrMojok
08-30-2007, 01:32 AM
He's a character alright... I am not too familiar with TV pop culture, either that of my own country or England's, but one night I was flipping through the channels, and stopped on the BBC when I heard this:

"Hidden simmering in the back, there is a flithy old stockpot. In it is the base for all of Neil's revolting sauces."

I then preceded to watch Ramsay spend several days trying to teach an old english pub owner some new tricks. Complete with at least five F-bombs a minute. I was hooked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

madsarmy
08-30-2007, 02:01 AM
ramsay would find himself in the burns unit if he spoke to me like that. I'd weld his face to the hot plate.

ytareh
08-30-2007, 02:02 AM
Have to say I find the whole bad tempered primadonna chef thing a bit immature and he seems as bad as any -God help anybody who has to work for him.However I do find him entertaining and Quazi ,Havok etc you should read his autobiography-its great-Seems he had a rough enough upbringing especially from Father...might explain a lot....He was also a rising soccer star before injury forced him out of the game.

K_Freddie
08-30-2007, 02:05 AM
I work in the movie industry and everybody swears like troopers.
It's quite simply not suitable for movies, etc...

I 'reprimand' all of them about their language and they should learn to speak properly, otherwise shutup. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif They might think I'm a stiff but when you hear this filth coming out of the mouths of rabble evey day.. you know!!

ploughman
08-30-2007, 03:33 AM
The thing I like about Ramsay is it's clear he cares as much about the people as the food. He always tries to find and encourage those who are enthusiastic even if they're been ignored by their own bosses. Ever notice how kind and supportive he is to the kitchen porters and the pot washers who are interested in getting on?

MEGILE
08-30-2007, 04:01 AM
Profanity is the preserve of those with little to say.

Blutarski2004
08-30-2007, 04:19 AM
Sorry gents, but as far as fine English cuisine is concerned, my vote goes to the Duchess of Duke Street.

;-]

mauld
08-30-2007, 04:53 AM
Being Scottish and not English i would like to point out that that sort of language is quite normal in Scotland, If you view other Comic BBC programs like "Still Game" and "Chewing the Fat" and see the kind of culture that Gordon is from, especially since i played football for Glasgow Rangers F.C.

SeaFireLIV
08-30-2007, 05:11 AM
That ramsey is a twit, i don`t like him at all. why should constant swearing make him good? Good food don`t taste good when someone`s constantly swearing over it.

Still, I use to work as an apprentice Chef and it`s true that the first Chef was a loud swearing annoying git. the only reason i even did anything he said was because I had to (or lose my job).

No, chefs should be able to lead by brow beating those under him to death. Bad, bad way to manage people and make good food.

PikeBishop
08-30-2007, 05:25 AM
Dear All,
I must admit I have no problem with bad language.....thats just the way people are, but I will draw the line when he uses it against people who clearly cannot fight back and lack the confidence. If he spoke to me like that it would be "one more word out of you and I'll cut your B***s of you f****** w*****"!!
in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS!!!!(finger pointing posture)
I will admit though that the people who go on his show must know what he is like and so should expect it. BTW I eat to live not live to eat so I don't often see his programs.
Best regards,
SLP

BSS_Goat
08-30-2007, 11:34 AM
I think profanity is Texas Pete for the English language.

Taylortony
08-30-2007, 02:30 PM
VMF-214_HaVoK

Did you like the Apprentice? maybe not the American version, but more the UK one........ If you did I do hope you get to see the restaurant........ this is a competition pure and sweet that has started in the UK on BBC...
There are 9 couples, they are all given a restaurant each with a week to open.... they then have to make it a success, one restaurant a week is closed until the winner is awarded their own restaurant....... it is all done along the format of the apprentice with Top UK chef and restaurateur Raymond Blanc and so far 2 shows in is looking to be a winner.... see link for details

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/.../24/restaurant.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/10_october/24/restaurant.shtml)

I also hope you get to see at some point river cottage with Hugh Fern whittingstall..... you may have seen him on some of the FWord....... his shows rock as do his cooking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif see

http://www.rivercottage.net/

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2007, 02:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
VMF-214_HaVoK

Did you like the Apprentice? maybe not the American version, but more the UK one........ If you did I do hope you get to see the restaurant........ this is a competition pure and sweet that has started in the UK on BBC...
There are 9 couples, they are all given a restaurant each with a week to open.... they then have to make it a success, one restaurant a week is closed until the winner is awarded their own restaurant....... it is all done along the format of the apprentice with Top UK chef and restaurateur Raymond Blanc and so far 2 shows in is looking to be a winner.... see link for details

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/.../24/restaurant.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/10_october/24/restaurant.shtml)

I also hope you get to see at some point river cottage with Hugh Fern whittingstall..... you may have seen him on some of the FWord....... his shows rock as do his cooking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif see

http://www.rivercottage.net/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not familiar with that one Taylor. I did quite enjoy the shows: "The next Food Network Star" and "Top Chef". The later was aired on Bravo. Both are US based. I have been watching the BBC quite a bit as of late so Im sure I will catch it sooner or later.

Oh and I like the show "Take Home Chef" with Curtis Stone. Its on TLC. He also learned his craft in London.

S!

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2007, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">but I will draw the line when he uses it against people who clearly cannot fight back and lack the confidence </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh come on. These are grown adults man and they requested his help. I think you are missing the method to the madness. They do not have to do the show and Im quite certain they can end it anytime they like. I dont think they need your pitty. Some people need a swift kick in the *** from time to time. Its tough love man, you ever served in the military?

S!

Taylortony
08-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Restaurant

Is brand new here so I do hope you get it.......as for River Cottage, that is more like it as good UK TV instead of the likes of dare I say Hollyoaks...... cringe

ploughman
08-30-2007, 03:51 PM
River Cottage is wonderful, good food and Hugh's either off his tits on cider or running from some Dorset floozie.

Warrington_Wolf
08-30-2007, 04:17 PM
I think that Hells Kitchen and Hells kitchen USA were very entertaining.
I remember when the first Hells kitchen was first aired in the UK, all the lads in our lab ended up watching it. The next day when we were talking about it, and we all agreed that it was very similar to how we are on a busy day (rushing around like mad and raising voices) and that our Lab Manager would act a little bit like Gordon Ramsey at times like these.
The reason why I think that he shouts at people like that is probably the same as why our Lab Manager does it when it is busy. People are waiting for their goods (in Ramseys case it is food, in my case it is spectacles) and usually they get fed up when they are waiting for a few minutes, they may storm out and the company loses money or they may start verbally abusing the staff. I've seen it happen to some of the staff in my workplace, some of the women have even had to walk away from the customer before they burst into tears http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif. I've also recieved several earbashing from customers who have had to wait (one had been waiting for two minutes before he started shouting his head off) so I know how bad it is.
Gordon Ramsey shouts at his staff because he wants them to move their arse quickly and get the goods to the customers as soon as possible.
I think that VMF-214_HaVoK has a point, Gordan Ramsey (like my Lab Manager) is like that because he has to be to get the job done. I've sometimes needed the occasional "swift kick up the arse" from time to time as have several of my workmates, but I don't hold it against my Lab Manager when he gives it.
Usually you find that people like him are probably likable people when the pressure is off (my Lab manager is like that) and that they only issue "tough love" when the pressure is on.

SeaFireLIV
08-30-2007, 04:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">but I will draw the line when he uses it against people who clearly cannot fight back and lack the confidence </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh come on. These are grown adults man and they requested his help. I think you are missing the method to the madness. They do not have to do the show and Im quite certain they can end it anytime they like. I dont think they need your pitty. Some people need a swift kick in the *** from time to time. Its tough love man, you ever served in the military?

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You asked our opinion, we`re giving it.

-HH-Quazi
08-30-2007, 04:37 PM
I think allot of reality television that we get here in the states are spin offs from television shows from the UK, England mainly I think. Especially the game shows.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2007, 05:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">but I will draw the line when he uses it against people who clearly cannot fight back and lack the confidence </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh come on. These are grown adults man and they requested his help. I think you are missing the method to the madness. They do not have to do the show and Im quite certain they can end it anytime they like. I dont think they need your pitty. Some people need a swift kick in the *** from time to time. Its tough love man, you ever served in the military?

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You asked our opinion, we`re giving it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know I did and Im not saying you are wrong or anything. My opinion differs from yours is all and I was explaining why. Im not trying to start an argument or anything like that but a little friendly debate is ok by me. Please dont go getting all offended on me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2007, 05:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by -HH-Quazi:
I think allot of reality television that we get here in the states are spin offs from television shows from the UK, England mainly I think. Especially the game shows. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like American Idol? Wasnt that a UK original?

Waldo.Pepper
08-30-2007, 06:24 PM
I am frankly amazed that no one has posted a link to the finest cooking show that has ever graced the airwaves ... no profanity here I must say!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PEtzXi94rI

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-30-2007, 06:27 PM
'Nuff said, Waldo; thread finished.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

PikeBishop
08-31-2007, 07:45 AM
Dear HaVoK,
As I said they should expect it and I know that they can pull out at any time.....it just annoyes me when he has them crying. It is one of the few times in my life when I felt like defending a woman i.e. being a knight in shining armour. Normally I'm quite scathing when women whine about sexist comments but Ramsay's rants make me want to twist his head off. That said on this forum I find it interesting that those of you that (I think)are either from USA or work in an industrial setting are far more tolerant than I about Ramsay's attitude. I work in Academic Science and would not actually put in a complaint, I'd just give as good as I got and would assist others in doing so if I felt that Ramsay was not "playing Cricket".
Best regards,
SLP

PikeBishop
08-31-2007, 07:50 AM
And...No I have never served in the military and would never wish to for those very reasons.
Some people need to be brought down a peg or two and there are many that hide behind a position of authority that DO need a good kick up the Arse.
Best regards,
SLP

SeaFireLIV
08-31-2007, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PikeBishop:
And...No I have never served in the military and would never wish to for those very reasons.
Some people need to be brought down a peg or two and there are many that hide behind a position of authority that DO need a good kick up the Arse.
Best regards,
SLP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point. A person should never try to use authority or status just to try and `score points` over someone else who has made a better point and is right.

tagTaken2
09-01-2007, 01:19 AM
I've never had any sympathy for people on reality TV. If you stick your head up to be "famous", don't be surprised if they cut it off.

Waldo.Pepper, thanks for the link, I missed most of these.

Always been a bit of a Jamie Oliver fan myself, first for the food, and then for the social conscience. He really seems to believe what he's saying.

In the end, I'm not sure that the restaurant business is a good one. High pressure, stupid customers, dubious value for money.

Matz0r
09-01-2007, 01:44 AM
I like Ramsey better in that other show where he pulls restaurants off the edge of ruin. You can almost see a human side in him there.

PikeBishop
09-01-2007, 03:28 AM
Yes that is true.....I have watched his programs where he does pull them away from ruin and I give credit where it's due......it's just that he attacks people as if it is his god given right to do so without any concern for their mental state.
Best regards,
SLP

Taylortony
09-01-2007, 06:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PikeBishop:
Yes that is true.....I have watched his programs where he does pull them away from ruin and I give credit where it's due......it's just that he attacks people as if it is his god given right to do so without any concern for their mental state.
Best regards,
SLP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But then he is only really saying what we all are thinking.......