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halfcool
04-19-2008, 04:39 AM
I just dll'd the demo and have been playing for a couple hours. I found out that I absolutely need a joystick.

I wonder if some of you might share your product of choice. Just to give me some ideas, because this flying with a keyboard thing has got to go.

halfcool
04-19-2008, 04:39 AM
I just dll'd the demo and have been playing for a couple hours. I found out that I absolutely need a joystick.

I wonder if some of you might share your product of choice. Just to give me some ideas, because this flying with a keyboard thing has got to go.

Metatron_123
04-19-2008, 05:09 AM
I use a Thrustmaster T flight X joystick, very comfortable and also cheap.

I suggest you do a forum search, there are already loads of joystick discussions, sugggestions etc.

Taylortony
04-19-2008, 05:34 AM
If you are getting into it I would also get the 1946 disc, that has all of the game versions on it and is a million times improved from the demo, you get carriers and bombers as well.

I use one of saiteks products that has a seperate throttle stick, the x52, but before you spend out megga bucks on a stick, get a cheepy and see if you are going to enjoy the game.

As we do not know which country you are in, all i can say is game in the uk has 1946 (DVD) for sale at 9.99 delivered

http://www.game.co.uk/PC/Flight/Combat/~r329699/IL2-Sturmovik-1946/ (http://www.game.co.uk/PC/Flight/Combat/%7Er329699/IL2-Sturmovik-1946/)

DKoor
04-19-2008, 10:36 AM
I still play with Saitek EVO.
Excellent investment of my money.

halfcool
04-19-2008, 12:05 PM
Wow quick responses. I live in Canada. Dkoor suggestion eventually sent me to look at the cyborg EVO. Searched it on craigslist and might buy it later today if the guy gets back to me.

TinyTim
04-19-2008, 12:20 PM
I'm still using MS sidewinder FF pro 1st series. It's now 10 years (wow, how time flies) old, still ticking as new. Has 8 buttons plus shift, so effectively 16 buttons, twist stick, accurate throttle... The only MS product I really reccomend from my heart as it, contrary to some other MS products, won't make you want to throw the PC outta window every 10 minutes. If you are low on budget, you can maybe get it from second hand somewhere, but test it thoroughly if that's the case.

And a hint: Until you get the stick, you can train shooting from gunner positions in bombers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Setting up a B-25 and letting loose at attacking Ki-27/43 is loads of sadistic fun! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Dustysquareback
04-19-2008, 01:27 PM
Whoa! TinyTim - how do you get your Shift button to work in XP? I can't find any software that supports it. Thanks in advance.

Note, I have the MS Sidewinder Precision Pro (not FFB). But it has the shift button.

Alpha-747
04-19-2008, 01:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
I still play with Saitek EVO.
Excellent investment of my money. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I use. Excellent joystick.

VW-IceFire
04-19-2008, 02:44 PM
Saitek X-52 is my stick/throttle of choice.

Bearcat99
04-19-2008, 03:32 PM
See the Nugget's Guide in my sig.

Krt_Bong
04-19-2008, 05:35 PM
I started with a Logitech Extreme 3D with the twist for rudder (went through 3 of them actually)then I decided I wanted more control, so I bought a Stick with a separate Throttle referred to as a HOTAS, or Hands On Throttle And Stick. This one is an X-45 Saitek (now called X-52(pro)).
Whatever you decide on make sure it at least has the rudder axis; either on a twist or a rocker bar like my X-45, which I now got the pedals too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif it can add up but it's an investment that I don't regret at all and there's a lot of friendly fliers who will be happy to share what they know to help you get the most out of your game.

dirkpit7
04-20-2008, 02:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
...but before you spend out megga bucks on a stick, get a cheepy and see if you are going to enjoy the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I absolutely agree. Good lower price sticks would be Saitek Aviator (Av8r) or Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.

Sirrith
04-20-2008, 03:02 AM
Im happy with my saitek st290 pro.

as a rule of thumb, I think pretty much any of the mid-range saitek sticks will fit the bill for your first stick.

Choctaw111
04-20-2008, 10:46 AM
I use CH products, but for just starting out, and not knowing how much you want to spend, there are several other alternatives that will do much better than your keyboard. CH and some others are for simmers who are REALLY into this kind of thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe you will be also.

CloCloZ
04-20-2008, 03:23 PM
I use a Saitek Evo Force (like the plain "Evo" PLUS force feedback).
In my opinion it's a good joystick for a beginner: throttle control, rudder twist control (rightly stiff), a lot of (also programmable) buttons and a reasonable price.
Just remember to calibrate it before ANY flight (it takes less than 30 seconds to calibrate axis, rudder and throttle with Saitek software).

halfcool
04-20-2008, 10:20 PM
I've been looking all over the buysell and craigslist. I haven't been able to find anyone who seems to want to sell their joystick lol

I've emailed a couple people but that was 2 days ago and they still haven't gotten back to me yet. Looks like I'm heading to Walmart or something. I sure hope they have something with force feedback.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-21-2008, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by halfcool:
...Walmart or something. I sure hope they have something with force feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doubtful. But even Walmart will have something that beats using your keyboard.

halfcool
04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
OK, I bought a X52, needless to say, I'm happy with it. I've flown a bit in FSX and it performs great.

As for IL2, I'm frustrated but optomistic about it's programmability. I've poked around a little bit and have managed to set my firing mechanics in the profile manager, but I still can't get it to actually fly my plane. I'm not sure if this is a problem with me or the IL2 demo, but I'm probably gonna see if I can find IL2 1946 in a free hour.

roybaty
04-21-2008, 05:46 PM
Be sure you stick with IL2 1946, there are a few other older version floating around that cause confusion/pain for newbies. 1946 includes everything and is all you need.

Plenty of us use the X52 and can help you there, bit confusing at first and the programming software has some quirks.

halfcool
04-21-2008, 07:56 PM
Ah, had to reinstall IL2. DOH. Got it all working now, I'm just trying to reconfigure it as it's lost the centre point pretty bad. Next task i suppose.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-22-2008, 06:25 AM
Tully is one with all the great X-45/X-52 profiles and info. Here are a couple of his links:

x-52 profile: http://mywebsite.bigpond.com/dav2ken/fbx52.zip

great joystick info link: http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm

Hope this helps.

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-22-2008, 08:35 AM
See this thread. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9091056356

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