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jimDG
10-09-2005, 10:27 PM
I was once flying (online) a Mig-3 AM and there was something wrong with my joystick - the Y-axis just wouldn't go to full deflection. It latter turned out that the stick had become terribly miscallibrated and full-back stick was actually only half deflection.
The strange thing is - nothing could catch me, I TnB-ed in a firball with total impunity and even BnZers couldnt quite get a ball on me. The speed never dropped below 500km/h.

Then the same thing happened to me again - this time the pilot was wounded and couldnt quite pull hard enough. I was in a lagg-3 and there were 3 bf109s and a fW190 turning with me for minutes (and progressively lagging behind) until someone had the clever idea of going up and than down on me. My speed stayed pegged at 350 km/h.

So - is there any reason why I shouldnt alter my stick settings to, say, 6-12-18-24-30-36-42-48-54-60 ?

jimDG
10-09-2005, 10:27 PM
I was once flying (online) a Mig-3 AM and there was something wrong with my joystick - the Y-axis just wouldn't go to full deflection. It latter turned out that the stick had become terribly miscallibrated and full-back stick was actually only half deflection.
The strange thing is - nothing could catch me, I TnB-ed in a firball with total impunity and even BnZers couldnt quite get a ball on me. The speed never dropped below 500km/h.

Then the same thing happened to me again - this time the pilot was wounded and couldnt quite pull hard enough. I was in a lagg-3 and there were 3 bf109s and a fW190 turning with me for minutes (and progressively lagging behind) until someone had the clever idea of going up and than down on me. My speed stayed pegged at 350 km/h.

So - is there any reason why I shouldnt alter my stick settings to, say, 6-12-18-24-30-36-42-48-54-60 ?

Waldo.Pepper
10-09-2005, 11:35 PM
The secret is out.

Lucius_Esox
10-10-2005, 12:27 AM
snapshots

FA_Whisky
10-10-2005, 04:52 AM
****, $%#%^&*&@ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1241.gif

HAve been using this since IL2 came out.... Have always maneged to keep it to myself, this is why i never stall in a P51........

btw, i've set it to 62% max........

F19_Ob
10-10-2005, 05:14 AM
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U've now discovered the essense of energy flying.
Many of us also have allowed too much elevator response in our sticksettings, and as our stick are light and easy to pull, we overdo it.
The result is unintended energyloss.

jimDG, U mentioned the LaGG3. This plane is sometimes confusingly compared to it's poor ansestor LaGG1 wich had more vices.
The LaGG3 Can be a very dangerous opponent to the 109 as long as one doesn't lose ones energy since it takes long time to get it back, while the 109 gets energy instantly because of its superior accelleration.

Another example of energy control is the hurricane wich need to have medium speed to perform its best. Too slow or too fast makes the hurricane a poor performer but the highest speed may be used if one knows how to handle it and how to lose the energy fast when needed.

Often though mantaining high energy in combat is the key for many planes and sloppy use of the elevator or flaps may cause death because of unintended bleeding of speed in the wrong situation.

jimDG
10-10-2005, 06:18 AM
that some/most planes have a better angular speed at higher speeds (and accelerate poorly) is not a big secret. But I find it impossible to just pull a little bit in a controlled way for a long time. Which is where the stick settings come into play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. It would be nice to figure out a way to toggle the stick responce settings with the touch of a button (so that I can pull hard in the few case when its actually needed). I'll have to check if my stick drivers provide adequate hot key support.

Actually, now that I think of this - I could simply attach a back-pull restraint where the stick connects to its stand (on hinges so that I can flip it up and down when needed), but this will be at the expense of loosing resolution.

huggy87
10-10-2005, 08:41 AM
It will give you acne and put hair on your palms.