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VW-IceFire
11-27-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm working on two campaigns side by side right now and while one is finished, the other is just getting started and I'm looking for a little creative help.

Although I don't tend to do off the wall sort of missions I do want to offer some potentially interesting or unique combat situations if I can. What are some of those "cool" moments that have happened to some of you as you've played through missions and campaigns? Stuff that sticks out in your mind. When you're scripting a campaign it's useful to pay heed to these moments and to try and capture them now and again.

VW-IceFire
11-27-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm working on two campaigns side by side right now and while one is finished, the other is just getting started and I'm looking for a little creative help.

Although I don't tend to do off the wall sort of missions I do want to offer some potentially interesting or unique combat situations if I can. What are some of those "cool" moments that have happened to some of you as you've played through missions and campaigns? Stuff that sticks out in your mind. When you're scripting a campaign it's useful to pay heed to these moments and to try and capture them now and again.

stugumby
11-27-2010, 04:05 PM
Something with a second echelon strike force going after the advanced guard of the main body?? A anti partisan mission using the letov s38 or the avia perhaps with an armored train thrown in under attack by spb zveno combos should get things jiggy..

Col_SandersLite
11-28-2010, 10:19 AM
It would be tricky to get the timing right, but here's one of my favorite campaign moments.

I was flying a campaign converted into a coop with a few friends (we do that alot). I don't remember the exact campaign. I do remember we where flying 109s though. Early Gs I think... East front, maybe Stalingrad.

Anyways, this mission was a standard patrol as I recall. Go to the patrol point, loiter for a little while and rtb.

I don't remember for sure if we encountered resistance or not. It was light if there was any, but there was a twist.

Once we reached base, we did our standard pattern. Two of us where on the ground and only two of us still in the air (one on final, the other not far behind), when suddenly our airbase was under attack by the VVS. As I remember, it was some migs and il-2s.

Needless to say, everyone had to scramble back into the air to fight them off. That fight always stuck with me.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure you could really pull that off well with the IL-2 ai since when they enter the pattern, their brain shuts off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.



Another that I remember well from the AEP days (I think, could have been pf, but I don't think so):
I was flying a dynamic P-38 campaign with DCG. This mission was another standard patrol where absolutely nothing happened. Since the lightning has a whole metric ****ton of gas, and my guns where unfired, I decided to go harass the nearest enemy airfield before we rtb. My flight got there just as a gaggle of 262s where landing!


One last mission. This was in the same campaign as above. My squadron and our trusty 38s again. In this case, we had to leave our airstrip and move to one in the rear because we where about to be overrun. There was artillery falling all around us as we took off. We were armed with bombs and HVARS and actually annihilated the attacking force.

DKoor
11-28-2010, 12:43 PM
I can mention couple of moments...

1. Soviet Union early war years... VVS squadron (that I was part of) scrambled to intercept Luftwaffe bombers, against all odds. I actually liked to play it... it is kinda tough to caught with Ju-88 and constantly check your six to avoid being bounced by 110's or 109's... also bombing with I-153 while the FAF Hurricanes are chasing you across the Gulf Of Finland can be a telling experience...

2. I loved the first mission in Finnish campaign, tough as hell... night mission intercepting the Pe-8 in Hurri. Plus, the Gulf of Finland looks great at evening...

2. I liked Prokhorovka map a lot, very cool historical setup there... the clash of the airforces there is one of the coolest there is in WW2 IMHO. Forces were arguably very very even there... from one side you have LaGG-3's (later series), LA-5's, Yak-9's, IL-2's with NS cannons... and on another side early FW's, 109F/G's, Ju-87's with Bk cannons... the accent is heavily on the bombing campaign at low level, its quite spectacular when you see echelon of Sturmoviks attacking armor, at the same time sky above them is filled with fighters combating each other. Same with Stukas... I digged that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
For some reason in IL-2, war on western front is not that "spicy" as it is on eastern.

Now that I think of it I really enjoyed early war years in campaigns, and some mid-years as opposite to the later war combat which more than anything boils down to faceless bouncing... on some pervert way you may say that it is kinda like firing rockets at targets you never saw... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Laters, I'll probably think of something else too and will post here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

PhantomKira
11-28-2010, 02:59 PM
Well it's standard kinda boorish, but in PhilK's Singapore area Spitfire VIII campaign "Ace of Spades" (M4T), we got jumped out of the sun by Ki-43s. That was interesting for me as I've never been online and this was the first time I've had a truly effective AI bounce with zero warning. I'm sure it took some fiddling to get the timing just right on his part.

Metatron_123
11-28-2010, 03:02 PM
I always thought a campaign with the Rebel Slovak airforce in 1944 with a mix of German, Czech and Soviet planes would be great. In fact the map and the planeset we have are enough to replicate the missions very realistically.

Other than that, and onto more general themes, there was a mission in the Condor legion campaign by Flatspinman(where is he lately?) where the opening moments of a mission started with an attack on your base which was ingeniously designed so everything exploded except the player, allowing him to take off and pursue the raiders. That was a good one.

Also random simulated landing mishaps and engine failures add a lot to a mission.

Woke_Up_Dead
11-28-2010, 07:19 PM
On one of the standard campaigns that came with the game, there was a mission where you were flying the IL-2 and the radio was telling you to fly at 2000m, higher than usual for the Sturmoviks. At some point on your way to the target, if you were observing the skies carefully, you would spot a squadron of unescorted Heinkels above you and to the side, flying in the opposite direction. If you timed your climb and turn just right, you could intercept them and shoot one or two of them down.

I also always like finding targets outside of the designated flight path, even just single trucks inside enemy lines, or single recon planes over your own turf.

Bombing targets deep inside enemy lines where the flight path takes you through a busy area is interesting; destroying the target might be the easy part, it's the getting in at the start and getting out at the end that's challenging.

Finally, unusual weather or unusual time of day always add good atmosphere to a mission.

M2morris
11-28-2010, 08:04 PM
While returning to base after combat my commander developed engine trouble and was forced to bail out as we were passing near Bastogne. I landed on a snow covered road outside of town in my Me109 and picked him up(JG52Schatten). He climbed through a panel and into my plane's fuselage, we took off again and made it back to base.

ElAurens
11-28-2010, 09:57 PM
I've done a Continuation War mission where your base (Finns) is over run by Russian T-26s and Ba-64s while you are forming up for takeoff.

Hair raising stuff.

Testus01
11-29-2010, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">interesting or unique combat situations if I can. What are some of those "cool" moments that have happened to some of you as you've played through missions and campaigns? Stuff that sticks out in your mind. When you're scripting a campaign it's useful to pay heed to these moments and to try an </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like those missions where you must re-evaluate your priorities vs. objectives; defend or chase that bomber or stick to waypoints or ... Those missions you retry and get an new ending even when you know what's coming... Staged missions where distance is not what decides the length of the game, and of course those missions one can spend hours testing and planning minute by minute. Good luck & tell us more when ready.

DKoor
11-30-2010, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Testus01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">interesting or unique combat situations if I can. What are some of those "cool" moments that have happened to some of you as you've played through missions and campaigns? Stuff that sticks out in your mind. When you're scripting a campaign it's useful to pay heed to these moments and to try an </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like those missions where you must re-evaluate your priorities vs. objectives; defend or chase that bomber or stick to waypoints or ... Those missions you retry and get an new ending even when you know what's coming... Staged missions where distance is not what decides the length of the game, and of course those missions one can spend hours testing and planning minute by minute. Good luck & tell us more when ready. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes those missions are blast... for example you escort your bombers, and you get on collision course with enemy bomber formation escorted by fighters... what to do; defend bombers, engage fighters, stick in formation, engage enemy bombers, look for yourself or squadron buddies in the possible upcoming melee... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Other than that I also remember that I quite enjoyed attack on the armored train with CR.42 (some DGen mission in Hungary fighter campaign). I think that beast even fired at me (can't tell for sure tho). It was quite scary, Russian landscape was all in that early morning mist...

I also enjoyed missions when you are short on fuel, or when you need to take off fast because enemy army approaches and will take over the base or when you need to take off fast because of the enemy artillery shelling the airdrome...

I liked the mission when you need to find some enemy unit on ground or intercept lone recce fighter/airplane... that kind of stuff...

The most boring missions are when you are in complete domination, be it thru superior airplanes or superior numbers and other circumstances (although I know those missions are sometimes "a must"). Also I must admit that I on the other hand enjoyed such situations while I was flying bombers/attack planes because, for me, there isn't more frustrating situation than to being shot down many times by mighty intercepting force while en route to target. I think finding targets (on "realistic") and being owned by flak from time to time is quite enough... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ROXunreal
11-30-2010, 07:55 AM
Yeah I always liked hasty scrambles while the airfield is under attack, as well as searching for a lone recon or rescue plane to shoot down.

Bombing wise, ship bombing is by far the most interesting and exciting for me. Especially if there's strong AAA.

VW-IceFire
12-05-2010, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. Some great ideas to fill my head with http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif More than a few I've used before but some others I really hadn't thought about... and either way it's good to have fresh perspectives and see what people enjoy and what they don't.

Phas3e
12-05-2010, 08:15 PM
Getting bounced on a return flight or anytime when its not expected is always a heart stopper.

Also for a bit of fun, hunting down a straggler from an bombing raid or a forced night mission.