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Sinangel3
10-26-2018, 02:32 AM
I hate you. Your team hates you, and when theres three of you letting the 3 rampart points be taken in less than 3 minutes while one is calling for help, you are basically throwing the game. Go play dominion where you belong.

Devils-_-legacy
10-26-2018, 02:38 AM
Really?

DefiledDragon
10-26-2018, 03:25 AM
What are rampart points? Are you referring to archer points? If so, how do you take them without killing minions? Please explain.

chukblok
10-26-2018, 03:28 AM
Im also confused. Are you referring to those that stay with the ram?? because that needs to happen....And im guessing you mean archer points?

Wookiescantfly
10-26-2018, 03:46 AM
how so? having at least one attacker by the ram clearing out the minions means it moves, and rams the gates, at double speed. If it takes more than 3 attackers to take the points quickly, you're either getting ganked by a roaming death ball or just doing it wrong.

Conversely, if the entire defending team swarms the ram, kills attacking minions, and keeps attacking team players away from it, the ram stops moving.

Both have a substantial impact on the outcome of the game if done with teammates that are locking down objective points.

SangLong524
10-26-2018, 06:01 AM
OP is probably shamed face right now.
Personally, i dont think its a great idea to sweep minions alone. It works most of the time but its better to have another one to pick up the pace while u OOS or run for healing

Illyrian_King
10-26-2018, 06:06 AM
I hate you. Your team hates you, and when theres three of you letting the 3 rampart points be taken in less than 3 minutes while one is calling for help, you are basically throwing the game. Go play dominion where you belong.

I already quit so many matches at the very beginning because of such people.

They leave me alone to die at the ramparts ... i bless them with a bot lvl 2 to die for the next 25min.

Good post!

Klingentaenz3r
10-26-2018, 09:02 AM
I already quit so many matches at the very beginning because of such people.

They leave me alone to die at the ramparts ... i bless them with a bot lvl 2 to die for the next 25min.

Good post!

Well it is true that there are a lot of ignorant people out there... however.. if they go for the minion lane around the ram they also do some good. As defender: if 1 player of your team is present at the ram they slow down the ram and cause their own minions to damage it. As attacker: you accelerate the ram's progress when 1 player is protecting the ram and even more if the enemies' minions are cleared.

Note: just 1 player is needed there. So going for the rampart/archer points is also pretty important as they also attack the opposing teams minions and hence can help to speed up the progression or slow it down.

If you only have defenders down in the ram lane they might be doing good in decreasing the ticket count. However I like it more if everybody tries to look out for eachother and work together instead of having a bunch of ignorant idiots who seem to have no idea of what they are doing and not giving a damn about their team mates.

I really hate it when the damn chat is just not working (which is like 50% of the cases) in those kind of matches.

Fulgs235
10-26-2018, 11:05 AM
DUDE, it's really the opposite , all the idiots who run ramparts and never protect the ram should go play deathmatch
That thing is not moving if it has blues around.
I also see nowadays this strategy from defenders when they look for individual fights in order to deply the attackers of respawns, these idiots should go duels instead.
So in all breach games, atleast 1 player should fight the soldiers and make sure that ram is moving. Preferably warden, highlander or raider. Because these classes can easily kill the whole mob without risking big damage/death . In fact your best player should protect the ram , because he have to deal with all the heroes attacking ram besides the soldiers.

Siegfried-Z
10-26-2018, 01:05 PM
DUDE, it's really the opposite , all the idiots who run ramparts and never protect the ram should go play deathmatch
That thing is not moving if it has blues around.
I also see nowadays this strategy from defenders when they look for individual fights in order to deply the attackers of respawns, these idiots should go duels instead.
So in all breach games, atleast 1 player should fight the soldiers and make sure that ram is moving. Preferably warden, highlander or raider. Because these classes can easily kill the whole mob without risking big damage/death . In fact your best player should protect the ram , because he have to deal with all the heroes attacking ram besides the soldiers.

No.

The guy is right. When you took Rampart, i gess he mean Archer zone, Archers are killing the minions by themselves, which mean the ram can go on to the Door.

Blitzwarrior771
10-26-2018, 01:09 PM
communication is the key

Klingentaenz3r
10-26-2018, 01:26 PM
Highlander is also not particulary the best viable example of a good minion slapper. Too little health, huge recoveries after swings and bad stamina. Easily ambushed and even at good risk to get poked by some minions frequently compared to other classes that swipe and go out of danger zones fast. JJ is a much better example, Tiandi and Shaolin are also pretty good. Aramusha ..excellent. Warden and Kensei or Raider are of course also performing very well in that regard (as vanguards should be).

But well, whatever suits your liking and playstyle;)

Fairemont
10-26-2018, 02:40 PM
The other night after the attackers destroyed the first gate, I went down and started killing minions at the ram. It took a full five minutes for the ram to start moving again (It literally went no where) where I was literally uncontested. We ended up taking the ram from 2/3rd health to zero half way to the second gate because we never let it move without our minions pounding on it.

Roseguard_Cpt
10-26-2018, 02:50 PM
From what I read I think OP is speaking from the Defender standpoint, saying he's annoyed at his ally down at ram when the attackers are taking the walls.
Without context I don't know for sure, but that's my interpretation.

Honey_Badgerik
10-26-2018, 05:15 PM
It's a bit of both and you need to learn to prioritize.
As defenders you need to watch the enemy and see where they are attacking. If they send all 4 to the ramparts you should respond in kind. If only 2 or 3 are going for it assign 2-3 guys to fight them off and have the rest of your team delay the ram or watch the guardian. If those people need help group up and death ball the ramparts. Once they are dad move back to ram quickly to slow it down.
Attackers if you have all 4 pushing ramparts the ram won't move very far, but the archers can help with this. Attacking archers are much more valuable to me than defending team archers because you don't fully need to take the point to have them there. I like a 3-1 approach when 1 escorts ram and 3 push ramparts. Just as with defense pull people to help your team as necessary.

ytrecvbnm
10-26-2018, 05:39 PM
It sounds like the op means defenders. hold the archer points and they do more damage to the ram and slow it down.