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Tyrjo
10-12-2018, 07:35 PM
This is a hero concept I've been working on for a while and wanted to share with you.

Smiğur

Etymology: From Old Norse smiğr, from Proto-Germanic *smişaz. Compare Norwegian and Swedish smed, German Schmied, Dutch smid, English smith.
Pronunciation:
IPA(key): /ˈsmiːjʊɹ/

Faction: Viking

Personality: The Smiğur doesn't like people at all, he prefers to stay in his shop working his metal. He favors the company of iron, because unlike people, iron is malleable, iron always shows its true self, iron never lies. Since the last war, the Smiğur has a debt to settle, and he is intending to claim what is rightfully his. The Smiğur bases many of his aesthetics around the "extreme metal" look, act and sound.

Physique: An older guy, burly and hairy with a beerbelly. Mean and strong as eff. Bitter and full of rage.

http://i64.tinypic.com/25fq6iq.jpg

Weapons: Dual blacksmith hammers.

http://i67.tinypic.com/4h2q14.png

Gender: Male

Type: Heavy

Hit Points: 140

Stamina: 120

MOVES

Völundurs Pledge
LL (13, 15) (500 ms, 500 ms)

The hammer and the anvil
LH (13, S25, T30U) (500 ms, 700 ms, 900 ms)

The anvil and the hammer
HL (25, 15) (800 ms, 500 ms)

Völundurs Revenge
HH (25, S25, T30U) (500 ms, 700 ms, 900 ms)

Zone Attack
(L10, R10) (600ms)
Zone attacks hits both right and left on the same time and have to be dodged or parried to be mitigated completely.

Hammer smash
Running + H
Not in guard mode

Hammer poke
Running + L
Not in guard mode

HERO SPECIFIC

Blacksmiths clinch
Blocking a top attack locks your targets weapon inbetween the hammers for a second. You can only clinch the target you are locked on to. Blacksmiths clinch has hyperarmor. Press Guardbreak for a headbutt that stuns the target, hold Guardbreak to throw your target in any direction. Blacksmiths clinch counts as a chain starter.

Blacksmiths wrath
Top heavy finishers are unblockable.

The hammers might
Side heavy attack finishers stuns the target.

Side heavy opener cancels
Cancel a side heavy attack opener with Guardbreak to perform a headbutt that stuns the target.

Uninteruptible heavy attack openers
Heavy openers have hyper armor.

EXECUTIONS

A Sacrifice to the Thundergod
The Smiğur grabs hold of the straggling opponent with one of his arms, holding him in tight. Raising the other hammer into to the sky. ”Ása-Şór! Fórn mín til şín!” ”Thor! My gift for you!” The hammer acts like a conductor and is struck by lightning electrocuting the sacrifice which falls to the ground. The gift has been accepted. The Smiğur is of course left unscathed.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2w5vfjt.jpg

Just Let It All Out
The Smiğur roars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5u6T5tDBGw&feature=youtu.be&t=20) at the top of his lungs, stunning the opponent who falls backwards onto the back. The opponent, still on his back, seeing how the Smiğur approaches, tries to crawl away. ”Şú sleppur ekki...” ”You can't flee...”. The Smiğur then takes both of the hammers in his right hand smashing them three times into the victim, starting with the abdomen, then chest, then head.

Crushing Walls
The Smiğur grasps the hammers high up on the handles and holds the top sides on the left and right side of the head of opponent. Pressing inwards slowly. ”BWAHAHAHA!”

http://i63.tinypic.com/2lt62cy.jpg

Three Times Hello
The Smiğur grabs the opponent by the shoulders and finishes him off with three crushing headbutts. "Halló! Halló! Halló!"

Year 3 Season 1 execution - THE GIANT PENDULUM

https://i.imgur.com/VQbN8fP.jpg

The Smiğur punches his victim once in the stomach with his left hand. The victim slouches forward from the gigantic hit and at the same time, the Smiğur grabs both hammers in one hand. He lifts them up and lets gravity do the rest. "Klukkan slær eitt!!" "The bell tolls one o'clock!!" Swoosh! DÖNG! The victim goes flying. (Yes, it can ledge)

EMOTES

Combat
Hit it Very Hard
The Smiğur holds the left hammer in front of him hitting it hard on the top with the right hammer. Demonstrating how this fight is going to play out.

The Viking Washing machine
The Smiğur bends his knees slightly and places his palms on his thighs and starts to roll his head in a circular motion. The motion creates a big swirl of beard and hair.

Demonstration: https://youtu.be/mKav4_vsGSc?t=58

Free Roam

The Big War Drum
The Smiğur lightly beats a solid rythm with the hammers on his beerbelly. A light sound effect of four strokes on a war drum is played.

You're nothing to me
The Smiğur crosses his arms and spits on the ground. He doesn't give a rats a$$ about you.

Signature

Working that metal
The Smiğur imitates striking a blade on his anvil.

FEATS

Lvl 1.
Tireless
Throw Farther
Speed Revive

Lvl 2.
Thick Blood
Flesh Wound
Marked for Death

Lvl 3.
Hammer throw - 50 dmg 120 s cooldown
Punch Through
Tough As Nails

Lvl 4.
Fire Flask
Regenerate
Unblockable

I hope you enjoyed reading this and I would love to hear your comments and constructive criticism. :)

Lord_Cherubi
10-12-2018, 08:05 PM
I love it! Especially the fact that he would be a heavy, we need more of those.

UbiInsulin
10-12-2018, 09:59 PM
The art work really elevates this hero concept to the next level.

Also, is ğ pronounced like an English "th"?

Halvtand
10-13-2018, 12:03 AM
Also, is ğ pronounced like an English "th"?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdtdTJkRtkE

Tyrjo
10-13-2018, 07:51 PM
Added a voice line to the exection Just Let It All Out and changed a grammatical error in the voice line of the execution A Sacrifice to the Thundergod.

Added two emotes.

Tyrjo
10-15-2018, 04:47 PM
Added two new emotes:

Combat
The Viking Washing machine
The Smiğur bends his knees slightly and places his palms on his thighs and starts to roll his head in a circular motion. The motion creates a big swirl of beard and hair.

Demonstration: https://youtu.be/mKav4_vsGSc?t=58

Free roam
You're nothing to me
The Smiğur crosses his arms and spits on the ground. He doesn't give a rats a$$ about you.

bhitrock
10-15-2018, 05:29 PM
I have a question for the zone attack: you said it's a double attack from two directions at the same time, but when you block (or parry) an attack there's a small window of time in which you block all incoming attacks, so you would block both of them, which would make the "double attack" thing pretty useless.

Tyrjo
10-16-2018, 06:46 PM
I have a question for the zone attack: you said it's a double attack from two directions at the same time, but when you block (or parry) an attack there's a small window of time in which you block all incoming attacks, so you would block both of them, which would make the "double attack" thing pretty useless.

Good point. I guess one way of solving it would be to make it an unblockable. That wouldn't make it a chip attack which was my intention though.

goatwack
10-16-2018, 07:03 PM
So finally we have a use for Warlord. He can be Smiğur's shoe-shiner

Sauronbaine
10-16-2018, 08:30 PM
I actally REALLY love this idea. Holy crap.

Of course For Honor will never go for it but I love this idea.

bhitrock
10-16-2018, 11:04 PM
Good point. I guess one way of solving it would be to make it an unblockable. That wouldn't make it a chip attack which was my intention though.

Maybe it could be some kind of special attack (like nuxia trap) that works so that if you block it the other hit is a little delayed and automatically hits. Wich actually means you have to parry or dodge it to get rid of all the damage.

Tyrjo
10-17-2018, 05:28 PM
I actally REALLY love this idea. Holy crap.

Of course For Honor will never go for it but I love this idea.

Thanks. I hope they will begin to run out of hero concepts at some point, to at least consider it. :o

Tyrjo
11-03-2018, 02:18 PM
Signature

Working that metal
The Smiğur imitates striking a blade on his anvil.

Lord_Cherubi
11-03-2018, 09:18 PM
Yeah this concept is amazing imo! Teuly unique and we would get another cool heavy to toy with 😈

HerrNein
11-03-2018, 09:38 PM
So, I cant exactly say I am overly thrilled by the idea of another viking hero before Samurai or Knights get their seventh (or even Wu Lin getting their fifth)

Now, I think there is a perfect way this could be worked into a new, peculiar approach for a group who have been clamoring and rabbling for a rework.

Give it to Warlord. Make Warlord the first duel style hero for the game. By duel style, I mean give the players the option to quite literally mix up the match for what is called for. Have his standard sword and board start, but after he goes down, have it that he can choose to run out wielding a maul to quite literally maul the opposing team if you need some extra damage output instead of Frank the ledging tank. (and make it so that the one playing Warlord can switch between the two with each new spawn)

Tyrjo
11-04-2018, 08:00 AM
So, I cant exactly say I am overly thrilled by the idea of another viking hero before Samurai or Knights get their seventh (or even Wu Lin getting their fifth)

Now, I think there is a perfect way this could be worked into a new, peculiar approach for a group who have been clamoring and rabbling for a rework.

Give it to Warlord. Make Warlord the first duel style hero for the game. By duel style, I mean give the players the option to quite literally mix up the match for what is called for. Have his standard sword and board start, but after he goes down, have it that he can choose to run out wielding a maul to quite literally maul the opposing team if you need some extra damage output instead of Frank the ledging tank. (and make it so that the one playing Warlord can switch between the two with each new spawn)

I don't know if that is a great idea. Warlord has completely different weapon and shield. I wrote another post on how to fix Warlord and make him more fun to play and play against.

How to fix Warlord
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1889205-How-to-fix-Warlord

Kamen42
11-05-2018, 11:00 AM
The Smiğur doesn't like people at all

I don't need to hear more. Please UBI, make this happen :D

Tyrjo
12-01-2018, 08:58 AM
I forgot to add his feats earlier.

FEATS

Lvl 1.
Tireless
Throw Farther
Speed Revive

Lvl 2.
Thick Blood
Flesh Wound
Marked for Death

Lvl 3.
Hammer throw - 50 dmg 120 s cooldown
Punch Through
Tough As Nails

Lvl 4.
Fire Flask
Regenerate
Unblockable

Lukynu
12-01-2018, 12:16 PM
Could the year of harbinger hero be him?! But with one bigger hammer?!

UbiInsulin
12-01-2018, 08:58 PM
Could the year of harbinger hero be him?! But with one bigger hammer?!

Tyrjo can you confirm??

Tyrjo
12-02-2018, 08:41 AM
Tyrjo can you confirm??

Haha. I don't think so. I would make more sense if it's a new Wu Lin hero with a battle hammer, to fill in the gaps in their roster.

That also leaves room for my concept. ;)

Halvtand
12-02-2018, 10:23 AM
Haha. I don't think so. I would make more sense if it's a new Wu Lin hero with a battle hammer, to fill in the gaps in their roster.

That also leaves room for my concept. ;)

Damn it Tyrjo, all you hade to do was say yes and this hero would've been made. You had one job.

Tyrjo
12-03-2018, 04:06 PM
Sorry, I dropped the ball there. :(

bhitrock
12-03-2018, 07:55 PM
Haha. I don't think so. I would make more sense if it's a new Wu Lin hero with a battle hammer, to fill in the gaps in their roster.

That also leaves room for my concept. ;)

I don't think there will be a playable hero who wields that hammer. It would mean they dedicate an entire year only to one hero. But this doesn't mean they can't add a hero wielding another warhammer. Just not that one.

Tyrjo
12-16-2018, 08:32 PM
I don't think there will be a playable hero who wields that hammer. It would mean they dedicate an entire year only to one hero. But this doesn't mean they can't add a hero wielding another warhammer. Just not that one.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91fn6SvuPGL._SY879_.jpg

Looks like it's a Viking who is going to wield the hammer. :D

bhitrock
12-16-2018, 10:06 PM
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91fn6SvuPGL._SY879_.jpg

Looks like it's a Viking who is going to wield the hammer. :D

Well, looks like I was frong.
Now you will excuse me, got this important thing to do with that rope hanging from the cieling down there...



my life has no purpose now, all my beliefs crashed in one instant T^T




I'm happy to see new heroes btw

Tundra 793
12-16-2018, 10:21 PM
Looks like it's a Viking who is going to wield the hammer. :D

By the power of deduction, it appears you're correct. Though the design of the hammer looks nothing like anything I'd associate with Vikings, but neither does that... Axe... Thing.

I'm ever so gently excited about the prospect of a Viking with a big hammer, but the design reaally irks me.

bannex19
12-17-2018, 10:10 AM
By the power of deduction, it appears you're correct. Though the design of the hammer looks nothing like anything I'd associate with Vikings, but neither does that... Axe... Thing.

I'm ever so gently excited about the prospect of a Viking with a big hammer, but the design reaally irks me.

Almost all those weapon designs irk me lol. I guess we should be happy it's not nunchucks, a scythe, dual wield crossbows and WoW style war "glaives" lol

Tyrjo
01-26-2019, 10:08 PM
It's a new season and the Smiğur gets a new execution like everyone else.

THE GIANT PENDULUM

https://i.imgur.com/VQbN8fP.jpg

The Smiğur punches his victim once in the stomach with his left hand. The victim slouches forward from the gigantic hit and at the same time, the Smiğur grabs both hammers in one hand. He lifts them up and lets gravity do the rest. "Klukkan slær eitt!!" "The bell tolls one o'clock!!" Swoosh! DÖNG! The victim goes flying. (Yes, it can ledge)

UbiInsulin
01-27-2019, 12:35 AM
It's a new season and the Smiğur gets a new execution like everyone else.

THE GIANT PENDULUM

https://i.imgur.com/af9tySB.jpg

The Smiğur punches his victim once in the stomach with his left hand. The victim slouches forward from the gigantic hit and at the same time, the Smiğur grabs both hammers in one hand. He lifts them up and lets gravity do the rest. "Klukkan hringir eitt!!" "The bell tolls one o'clock!!" Swoosh! DÖNG! The victim goes flying. (Yes, it can ledge)

That man is VERY grouchy.

RebelOfWar
02-21-2019, 10:39 PM
I like the overall concept, although dual hammers sounds tricky as a next hero's weapon after the harbinger one we get, as this one also has a hammer, albeit a two handed one as I see it. Sure i'd vouch for this one anyways, as I just can't figure what type of heroes the newer ones should be for Vikings anyways.

Tyrjo
02-23-2019, 12:49 PM
I like the overall concept, although dual hammers sounds tricky as a next hero's weapon after the harbinger one we get, as this one also has a hammer, albeit a two handed one as I see it. Sure i'd vouch for this one anyways, as I just can't figure what type of heroes the newer ones should be for Vikings anyways.

See it as Raider and Berserker. One has a big axe, the other two small axes. :)

Wolfheart86
02-24-2019, 05:05 PM
The same boring old feats that everyone has? No way! Just look at how ridiculously op BP feats are. Either give him something similar or don't even bother making a new viking heavy. (meaning you UBI devs) Otherwise i really like the design idea.

BlackBeardNerf-
03-01-2019, 08:00 PM
Short answer: Yes.

Long answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdtdTJkRtkE

its killing warlord have same feats LUL

BlackBeardNerf-
03-01-2019, 08:01 PM
This is a hero concept I've been working on for a while and wanted to share with you.

Smiğur

Etymology: From Old Norse smiğr, from Proto-Germanic *smişaz. Compare Norwegian and Swedish smed, German Schmied, Dutch smid, English smith.
Pronunciation:
IPA(key): /ˈsmiːjʊɹ/

Faction: Viking

Personality: The Smiğur doesn't like people at all, he prefers to stay in his shop working his metal. He favors the company of iron, because unlike people, iron is malleable, iron always shows its true self, iron never lies. Since the last war, the Smiğur has a debt to settle, and he is intending to claim what is rightfully his. The Smiğur bases many of his aesthetics around the "extreme metal" look, act and sound.

Physique: An older guy, burly and hairy with a beerbelly. Mean and strong as eff. Bitter and full of rage.

http://i64.tinypic.com/25fq6iq.jpg

Weapons: Dual blacksmith hammers.

http://i67.tinypic.com/4h2q14.png

Gender: Male

Type: Heavy

Hit Points: 140

Stamina: 120

MOVES

Völundurs Pledge
LL (13, 15) (500 ms, 500 ms)

The hammer and the anvil
LH (13, S25, T30U) (500 ms, 700 ms, 900 ms)

The anvil and the hammer
HL (25, 15) (800 ms, 500 ms)

Völundurs Revenge
HH (25, S25, T30U) (500 ms, 700 ms, 900 ms)

Zone Attack
(L10, R10) (600ms)
Zone attacks hits both right and left on the same time and have to be dodged or parried to be mitigated completely.

Hammer smash
Running + H
Not in guard mode

Hammer poke
Running + L
Not in guard mode

HERO SPECIFIC

Blacksmiths clinch
Blocking a top attack locks your targets weapon inbetween the hammers for a second. You can only clinch the target you are locked on to. Blacksmiths clinch has hyperarmor. Press Guardbreak for a headbutt that stuns the target, hold Guardbreak to throw your target in any direction. Blacksmiths clinch counts as a chain starter.

Blacksmiths wrath
Top heavy finishers are unblockable.

The hammers might
Side heavy attack finishers stuns the target.

Side heavy opener cancels
Cancel a side heavy attack opener with Guardbreak to perform a headbutt that stuns the target.

Uninteruptible heavy attack openers
Heavy openers have hyper armor.

EXECUTIONS

A Sacrifice to the Thundergod
The Smiğur grabs hold of the straggling opponent with one of his arms, holding him in tight. Raising the other hammer into to the sky. ”Ása-Şór! Fórn mín til şín!” ”Thor! My gift for you!” The hammer acts like a conductor and is struck by lightning electrocuting the sacrifice which falls to the ground. The gift has been accepted. The Smiğur is of course left unscathed.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2w5vfjt.jpg

Just Let It All Out
The Smiğur roars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5u6T5tDBGw&feature=youtu.be&t=20) at the top of his lungs, stunning the opponent who falls backwards onto the back. The opponent, still on his back, seeing how the Smiğur approaches, tries to crawl away. ”Şú sleppur ekki...” ”You can't flee...”. The Smiğur then takes both of the hammers in his right hand smashing them three times into the victim, starting with the abdomen, then chest, then head.

Crushing Walls
The Smiğur grasps the hammers high up on the handles and holds the top sides on the left and right side of the head of opponent. Pressing inwards slowly. ”BWAHAHAHA!”

http://i63.tinypic.com/2lt62cy.jpg

Three Times Hello
The Smiğur grabs the opponent by the shoulders and finishes him off with three crushing headbutts. "Halló! Halló! Halló!"

Year 3 Season 1 execution - THE GIANT PENDULUM

https://i.imgur.com/VQbN8fP.jpg

The Smiğur punches his victim once in the stomach with his left hand. The victim slouches forward from the gigantic hit and at the same time, the Smiğur grabs both hammers in one hand. He lifts them up and lets gravity do the rest. "Klukkan slær eitt!!" "The bell tolls one o'clock!!" Swoosh! DÖNG! The victim goes flying. (Yes, it can ledge)

EMOTES

Combat
Hit it Very Hard
The Smiğur holds the left hammer in front of him hitting it hard on the top with the right hammer. Demonstrating how this fight is going to play out.

The Viking Washing machine
The Smiğur bends his knees slightly and places his palms on his thighs and starts to roll his head in a circular motion. The motion creates a big swirl of beard and hair.

Demonstration: https://youtu.be/mKav4_vsGSc?t=58

Free Roam

The Big War Drum
The Smiğur lightly beats a solid rythm with the hammers on his beerbelly. A light sound effect of four strokes on a war drum is played.

You're nothing to me
The Smiğur crosses his arms and spits on the ground. He doesn't give a rats a$$ about you.

Signature

Working that metal
The Smiğur imitates striking a blade on his anvil.

FEATS

Lvl 1.
Tireless
Throw Farther
Speed Revive

Lvl 2.
Thick Blood
Flesh Wound
Marked for Death

Lvl 3.
Hammer throw - 50 dmg 120 s cooldown
Punch Through
Tough As Nails

Lvl 4.
Fire Flask
Regenerate
Unblockable

I hope you enjoyed reading this and I would love to hear your comments and constructive criticism. :)

its killing warlord have same feats LUL and have almost same warlord move

Cheeeeeezzzzz
03-01-2019, 08:38 PM
Tyrjo,

Skol, lad!

Hormly
03-02-2019, 06:10 AM
Most metal character ever

rottmeister
03-02-2019, 12:52 PM
I really like hero concepts like these, keep it up!
A lot of work must've gone into this.

Seems like an interesting concept, we don't really have a character that uses a hammer yet, except for the soon to be announced viking hammer hero, but even then the move sets would be very different because yours uses 2 hammers instead of 1 big one.

To me, he kind of feels like a heavy version of Berserker (or a mix of WL and Zerk) and I'd be interested to see that.
I'm intrigued by the "Blacksmiths clinch" and would love to see it in action, but I am afraid that people will get annoyed by it over time considering people want Lawbro's "shove on block" to be removed. So instead of it being a "shove on block" kind of thing, how about a full block like Aramusha's? The animation of "Blacksmiths clinch" would remain, but it would work on all three sides and would be a full block instead. :)

Tyrjo
03-11-2019, 08:05 PM
I really like hero concepts like these, keep it up!
A lot of work must've gone into this.

Seems like an interesting concept, we don't really have a character that uses a hammer yet, except for the soon to be announced viking hammer hero, but even then the move sets would be very different because yours uses 2 hammers instead of 1 big one.


I didn't keep track of the time, most time was spent on the bus home from work listening to...ehm Death Metal. :nonchalance:



To me, he kind of feels like a heavy version of Berserker (or a mix of WL and Zerk) and I'd be interested to see that.
I'm intrigued by the "Blacksmiths clinch" and would love to see it in action, but I am afraid that people will get annoyed by it over time considering people want Lawbro's "shove on block" to be removed. So instead of it being a "shove on block" kind of thing, how about a full block like Aramusha's? The animation of "Blacksmiths clinch" would remain, but it would work on all three sides and would be a full block instead. :)

Yeah, that is a fair point. I was thinking the same thoughts myself but figured it would pass since it's only top and it doesn't guarantee any damage unless by a wall. I like your idea as well however with it working as the Aramusha Full Block. That could work as well.

Sweaty_Sock
03-12-2019, 09:13 AM
Can he have an emote where he bites the head off a pickled herring and spits it at the other player? Maybe even make it an execute :)