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Meppie
10-16-2005, 03:54 PM

FoolTrottel
10-16-2005, 04:11 PM
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HoneySeeker
10-16-2005, 04:41 PM
SIMPED F-16 USBs. Total self-indulgence, and worth every penny.

I wouldn't willingly go back to playing without them.

Kuna15
10-16-2005, 05:01 PM
I don't use them, but I believe that they are better for rudder control than anything else.

In lack of other options, option 3.

steve_v
10-16-2005, 06:40 PM
I use and enjoy my ch pro pedals, but don't feel they are absolutely necessary.

T_O_A_D
10-16-2005, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by steve_v:
I use and enjoy my ch pro pedals, but don't feel they are absolutely necessary.

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ElAurens
10-16-2005, 08:48 PM
I too use the CH Pro Pedals,and would never "fly" again without them, but, they are not absolutely necessary.

Dr...Watson
10-16-2005, 10:58 PM
I use the small joystick on the CH Pro throttle. Faster response, more feel, very accurate, On the headon shots on HL, it makes a difference, many head on passes turn the foe into dust with the A9's cannons with using alot of rudder to aim good.

Z4K
10-17-2005, 01:43 AM
I've got rubbish pedals from a AUD$25 (about USD$19) steering wheel (the cheaper the better - they're symmetrical, you see) plugged into my Cougar Hotas.

I love them, mostly for when I get my ailerons shot off (happens a lot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) and it makes it quite possible to return to base, and occasionally to get a kill or two in the meantime.

You've got some fairly quick and cheap options, without either buying the CH pedals, or making them from scratch - I reckon it's worth it.

Maple_Tiger
10-17-2005, 04:18 AM
Just ordered them, and I should see them soon. That said, thoughtlessly typed, and pointless, CH pro pedals are absolutely necessary, and I wouldn't fly without them.
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Beirut
10-17-2005, 04:22 AM
I like the rudder control in the flightstick.

But to be honest, I've never had or used pedals so my opinion is... questionable.

They could be a lot of fun though. Seems to me they would have to be pretty solid not to get beaten to death by heavy foot movement.

JG52Uther
10-17-2005, 04:25 AM
I love my CH pro pedals.I got on fine without them,using the rudder rocker on mt X45,but for me they just add another dimension to the sim.

DmdSeeker
10-17-2005, 04:37 AM
Pedals aren't neccesary; but some form of rudder control is.

You'll find those that like pedals; those that like twisty sticks; those that like to use another form of control such as a joystick slider or knob; and it doesn't matter which you choose; as long as you have the desired degree of control over this primary flight control surface.

WOLFMondo
10-17-2005, 05:00 AM
Got CH pedals. Will never go back to a twist stick. The level of control pedals give is very precise. Love 'em.

SeaFireLIV
10-17-2005, 06:06 AM
Pedals aren`t strictly necessary, joystick twist are ok.

Just remember you`ll waddle like a new born child at the start. I seem to be having more trouble than most with them at the moment, especially taking off in German planes. I was cursing like a good`n last week when I crashed in a Jerry plane for the 4th time on take off.

Once in the air i`m ok. Fighting`s great, strafing ground target`s is especially easy (I can easily strafe now on the 1st run)...

But taking off... A nightmare.

I am now grounded from missions until I can takeoff successfully in an F4 at least 5 times in a row... I really feel like a noob al over again and after 2 years or so flying that`s hard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

nakamura_kenji
10-17-2005, 06:14 AM
twist stick me ^_^ not find pedal help much when use friends

Bearcat99
10-17-2005, 06:15 AM
CH here... good to have? You bet!! Absolutely necessary? Nope... Would I fly without them? Not if I can help it!!

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-17-2005, 06:46 AM
For most who have ever actually flown an airplane, I can't imagine flying without them. I used a MSFFB2 twisty for a long time, but really never liked the rudder control. it just felt awkward. Installing some CH pro pedals about 2 years ago made flight-control MUCH more comfortable and intuitive for me.


TB

notamuppet
10-17-2005, 07:52 AM
Hello http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I luv em http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
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Triggaaar
10-17-2005, 07:53 AM
I voted yes, but
they are NOT absolutely necessary

I'm only a newbie, but I can see the advanage of using them over a twist stick rudder (which I also have the option of). At the moment, I'm using the gas/break pedals that came with my steering wheel, and although I will probably upgrade to CH pedals, cheap pedals is good enough.

han freak solo
10-17-2005, 07:56 AM
I just wished for pedals before patch 4.01. I made the jump to pedals because of patch 4.01. It may have been a conspiracy between CH and 1C/Maddox to get pedals sales up. In my case, it worked.

However, I do like the pedals better than the twisty rudder control. Especially after I adjusted the control curve.

Now I can taxi better, take off better, land better, stay straight and level better, and sometimes shoot better.

TooCooL34
10-17-2005, 08:31 AM
Head - TrackIR
Eyes - Decent monitor
Mouth - Team Speak
Right Hand - MSFFB2
Left Hand - CH Pro Throttle
Both legs - CH Pro Pedals

only game that requires my whole body and the experience from these is far beyond usual gaming.

Jumoschwanz
10-17-2005, 08:57 AM
While rudder pedals certainly make this flight sim more a "sim", and add to the immersion and realism, they absolutely have no performance advantage over a "twist" stick to control the rudder.
I have the CH pedals, and I have a microsoft Precision 2 twisty-stick. I switch back and forth between them, they both move the rudder equally well, and that is all they do.

Anyone who says they can fly better with one or the other is probably just more use to one, or they are romanticizing the pedals. The other possibility is if you have a krappy. cheap stick that is imprecise, then get a good grade set of pedals, you will attribute the performance increase to just having the pedals and not the build quality of them.

For those on a budget, I recommend getting a good stick with a twist-rudder feature, no one with pedals will have any "edge" in performance on you believe me. If you can get a MS precision 2 from ebay or somewhere it is fantastically precise.

For those who are seeking realism and immersion, get a set of pedals for the rudder. They are a neat toy for a true simmer. The CH pro usb pedals I have are great quality and precise.

Jumoschwanz

d9720267
10-17-2005, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by TooCooL34:
Head - TrackIR
Eyes - Decent monitor
Mouth - Team Speak
Right Hand - MSFFB2
Left Hand - CH Pro Throttle
Both legs - CH Pro Pedals

only game that requires my whole body and the experience from these is far beyond usual gaming.

You've missed ears.

Oh, and buttocks.

TacticalYak3
10-17-2005, 10:01 AM
I think the poll needed to include some more options as others have mentioned.

I personally use a MS Sidewinder 2 FF stick, and enjoy the "twisty stick" input. Though I never used pedals I would hazard a guess that they add to the immersion, and probably improves rudder control after one has practiced with them.

However, rudder control is absolutely needed but not necessarily rudder pedals. So much more to take into consideration with regards to being successful online or offline before considering this debate IMHO.

I would suggest that TrackIR is necessary in order to enhance/maintain situation awareness though.

TS!

dove_58
10-17-2005, 10:59 AM
Hi,

Although I voted "No, I don't believe they are necessary" I just can't imagine flying without my Simped Vario Pros. The rudder rocker on my X45 is now used for WEP, Cowl or Armor Flaps and Supercharger switch.

/dove_58

SeaFireLIV
10-17-2005, 11:17 AM
The main advantage I find with them is the ability to correct wobble in flight and when shooting. With the twists stick, precise aming was always difficult (with 4.01) because the constant wobble effect and because it`s easy to accidentally turn your rudder when you don`t want to. Now I simply adjust the pedal slightly, keep it there and shoot. Landing is also surprisingly easy.

Still can`t takeoff though.

TooCooL34
10-17-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Still can`t takeoff though.
"Lock TailWheel + small right rudder correction" then take off is nothing difficult.

Thou I think you already know it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

SeaFireLIV
10-17-2005, 04:40 PM
er, yea. I was told this, but I was still crashing, although things do seem to be getting easier... Cheers.

TooCooL34
10-17-2005, 04:49 PM
I forgot one thing.
About 80~84% power when you take-off roll. Don't slam the throttle until you get enough speed.

You already know it, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Meppie
10-17-2005, 06:13 PM
Thanks all for your input. I recognize my mistake, I should have put more choices. I am just going to stick with the x52 twisty stick which has a fairly precise rudder control. I'm hopefully going to try rudder pedals before I become to wont with a twisty stick.

Maple_Tiger
10-18-2005, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by d9720267:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TooCooL34:
Head - TrackIR
Eyes - Decent monitor
Mouth - Team Speak
Right Hand - MSFFB2
Left Hand - CH Pro Throttle
Both legs - CH Pro Pedals

only game that requires my whole body and the experience from these is far beyond usual gaming.

You've missed ears.

Oh, and buttocks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



What about fingers and toes?

d9720267
10-18-2005, 09:43 AM
Dream setup for maximum immersion:

Eyes: 3 monitors + TrackIR 6DOF
Ears: 3D surround sound + subwoofer
Hands: CH Pro joystick + throttle
Feet: CH Pro pedals
Buttocks: Virtual Realities rumble chair :-)

And that's without going into head-mounted visors and moving chair platforms (remember the arcade game Afterburner?.

SeaFireLIV
10-18-2005, 10:07 AM
Dream setup for maximum immersion:

Dream setup: Be in the real thing!

Oh, no.. maybe not..

d9720267
10-18-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Dream setup for maximum immersion:

Dream setup: Be in the real thing!

Oh, no.. maybe not.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't get me wrong, if I won the lottery I would put it into making a Mosquito airworthy (the last flyable one crashed in 1996); but you still wouldn't be able to shoot at anything!