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dugong
06-25-2006, 07:41 AM
This is good stuff. It looks like mostly Fw's getting it good. I might have seen a 262 in there as well. More scrutinizing eyes might figure it out. There is some interesting in-cockpit over the shoulder footage too. TheP-47's in formation is breathtaking.

I hope this is not a repost.

Enjoy: http://betapundit.blogspot.com/2006/06/wwii-color-guncam-footage.html

dugong
06-25-2006, 07:41 AM
This is good stuff. It looks like mostly Fw's getting it good. I might have seen a 262 in there as well. More scrutinizing eyes might figure it out. There is some interesting in-cockpit over the shoulder footage too. TheP-47's in formation is breathtaking.

I hope this is not a repost.

Enjoy: http://betapundit.blogspot.com/2006/06/wwii-color-guncam-footage.html

Brain32
06-25-2006, 08:56 AM
That footage is apsolutely AWSOME thx for posting m8 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LEBillfish
06-25-2006, 09:16 AM
Very nice but WTH!!!......Not one Tiger Tank was flipped over........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

J_Weaver
06-25-2006, 09:24 AM
Excellent! I believe most of this clip was used in the History Channel's Color of War series. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

flyin_scotzzman
06-25-2006, 09:42 AM
Hi mates,
got to agree, awesome footage.Some of this footage is shown over at Zeno's warbird video drive-in periodically.
This site Zeno's (http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/)
is well worth a visit.

SeaFireLIV
06-25-2006, 09:59 AM
It says this stuff is recently declassified? You mean there`s more?

Anyway, excellent shots. I recognised 109s and what looked like a long winged TA152!

Why oh why do sims never manage to do some of the enormous type explosions and smoke plumes that you see in the footage? IL2 gives you timy wisps that stop at about 50ft.

Oh well, one day we`ll get proper explosions and smoke that mix in with the clouds they`ll go so high...

On another point I note that stricken aircraft never flip about at a high turn rate, even though the pilot`s life is in danger. No doubt due to the stresses of just holding the stick and what`s possible in a 1940s era aircraft. Even if the film is slowed down (which I doubt in most cases), no one should be able to flip there planes about unless the wing is explosively shot off!

Thanx for a great find.

tigertalon
06-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Nice ricochets.

Deedsundone
06-25-2006, 10:12 AM
Just wondering...what was it that was so classified about it?

Rebel_Yell_21
06-25-2006, 10:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
On another point I note that stricken aircraft never flip about at a high turn rate, even though the pilot`s life is in danger. No doubt due to the stresses of just holding the stick and what`s possible in a 1940s era aircraft. Even if the film is slowed down (which I doubt in most cases), no one should be able to flip there planes about unless the wing is explosively shot off!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point. It doesn't happen much in gaming, but in real life, even with bullets flying, pilots rarely had the confidence, or the skill, or a combination of both, to push their aircraft to the edge of its envelope.

Somebody takes a shot at me, I rip the stick all over the place, trying not to stall, but not worrying about it. Better to have to worry about recovery than the fact that your sitting in a pool of flaming oil.

SeaFireLIV
06-25-2006, 10:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Deedsundone:
Just wondering...what was it that was so classified about it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That`s what I wondered.

The only thing I could see was that a few farmhouses and a village seemed to be under sustained fighter air attack. I did find myself wondering what it must be like for the civilians... Maybe it was the implication of killing innocent civilians (even though the attacker was probably attacking entrenched German forces) that classified it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Rjel
06-25-2006, 11:14 AM
The segments shown in that video are included in the DVD called Gun Camera Film produced by Victory Films. Look here -

http://wademeyersart.tripod.com/id69.html

I've been told these are direct from the master transfers and are incrediblely clean. The color is vivid, not washed out like many old documentaries appear with age. I was also told the person producing these films is also supplying most of the film footage used by the History and Discovery channel documentaries.

berg417448
06-25-2006, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Deedsundone:
Just wondering...what was it that was so classified about it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That`s what I wondered.

The only thing I could see was that a few farmhouses and a village seemed to be under sustained fighter air attack. I did find myself wondering what it must be like for the civilians... Maybe it was the implication of killing innocent civilians (even though the attacker was probably attacking entrenched German forces) that classified it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Recently declassified? I doubt it. I've seen most if not all of this stuff before on TV shows. Of course I'm sure that it sounds cooler if you claim that it is recently declassified.

VF-17_BOOM
06-25-2006, 06:09 PM
Great stuff,I never seen this one before,Yah that P-47 formation is a thig of beauty!good post,Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif