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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 06:29 AM
Grrr...hit enter on accident

Anyway, i've been flying the 190A5 for a long while now, but for the life of me, i cant figure one thing out. When you that the "default" loadout, what calibre are the wing cannons? Not the MG151's on the wing root, but the second pair farther out on the wings, near the middle. Are they 20mm also? or another pair of mg17s?

Message Edited on 08/29/0306:30AM by BS87

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 06:29 AM
Grrr...hit enter on accident

Anyway, i've been flying the 190A5 for a long while now, but for the life of me, i cant figure one thing out. When you that the "default" loadout, what calibre are the wing cannons? Not the MG151's on the wing root, but the second pair farther out on the wings, near the middle. Are they 20mm also? or another pair of mg17s?

Message Edited on 08/29/0306:30AM by BS87

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 06:39 AM
The A-2, A-3, A-4 and A-5 all have:

Two MG-17s over the engine cowl (1,000 r.p.g)
Two MG-151 20mm cannons in wing roots (200-250 r.p.g)
Two MG-FF 20mm cannons in wings (55 r.p.g) (the same as those used on the 109E)

The MG-FF cannons have a lower muzzle velocity and therefore the rounds fall off a little quicker. Still the MG-FF rounds are a little heavier and seem to have a little more punch than the 151's. Only use them at very close range.

I believe the captured A-3 (with the same armament as above) had these convergence settings:

MG-17's: 300
20mm 151's: 450
20mm MG-FF's : 250

Again this is all pilot preference but this is consistent with how I use my guns. I'll take the occasional longer shot with the 17's and 151's and save the FF's for sure hits and head-ons.

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Message Edited on 08/29/0305:44AM by kyrule2

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 07:43 AM
Good to know, thanks kyrule.

http://www.geocities.com/bs87cr/190sig.txt

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 07:52 AM
The MG-FF is of the same generation as the MG17.

It is a realtively low velocity 20mm cannon, with a poor rate of fire. The MG 151/20mm is a far superior weapon, and eventually completely replaced the MG-FF.

I'd actaully be interested in the FW-190A-6. To my knowledge, that was the first FW-190 version fitted with the four MG 151/20 wing, but it is still a light FW. I think it may even be the same year as the 190A-5, albit a later month.

Harry Voyager

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 08:54 AM
HarryVoyager wrote:

"I'd actaully be interested in the FW-190A-6. To my
- knowledge, that was the first FW-190 version fitted
- with the four MG 151/20 wing, but it is still a
- light FW. I think it may even be the same year as
- the 190A-5, albit a later month."

The A-6 went into production in June 1943 and was replacing the A-5 by late 1943. It mainly served on the Western front which may be why it wasn't included in FB. I think that is why we don't have a '41 series FW-190A-2, but damn it would be sweet, and dominant, if we did.

The A-6 replaced the outer MG-FF with 151's with 125-145 rounds per gun. The FF's were drum fed, while the 151's were belt fed, increasing reliability. The higher muzzle velocity made the 151 much more accurate as well.

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