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Kuna_
02-23-2006, 11:57 AM
That's right, you saw it correctly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I don't have any manouvering/aiming problems with v4.04, Spitfire is UFO once again, my sniper abilities are back big time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.
Rudder correct works very efficient now for me.
It seems that something has changed (IMO for the better big time) and I don't think that I am imagining things. Go ahead try it and post your findings.

ps. I was so surprised that I had to re-check my difficulty setting (stalls&spins, torque etc.). Everything was on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Kuna_
02-23-2006, 11:57 AM
That's right, you saw it correctly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I don't have any manouvering/aiming problems with v4.04, Spitfire is UFO once again, my sniper abilities are back big time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.
Rudder correct works very efficient now for me.
It seems that something has changed (IMO for the better big time) and I don't think that I am imagining things. Go ahead try it and post your findings.

ps. I was so surprised that I had to re-check my difficulty setting (stalls&spins, torque etc.). Everything was on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
That's right, you saw it correctly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Uhmmhm... OK, I'm believing you for a short while...

**Rushing to check

Btw, did you finish that downloading already? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheers,
S.

blackpulpit1970
02-23-2006, 12:04 PM
Kuna did you do a clean install or did you simply install over 4.03 just curious mate?.

Kuna_
02-23-2006, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
That's right, you saw it correctly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Uhmmhm... OK, I'm believing you for a short while...

**Rushing to check

Btw, did you finish that downloading already? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheers,
S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Checked planes: Spitfire Mk.9e (plain ver.), Yak-9T, Yak-1B (real joy to fly), Tempest. Try it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

@BPP I installed over v4.03m.

blackpulpit1970
02-23-2006, 12:10 PM
Where did you download patch from cause i want yours mate...lol

Scansion
02-23-2006, 12:22 PM
Agree with Kuna, even to the extent of checking to see if the difficulty settings had changed.

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 12:22 PM
You know what, Kuna...?


...


...

I'd say you're right!

I have been believing you all the time! (short while hasn't expired yet) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
(was j/k before, of course)

Not that I had terrible wobbles before...
My guess is that they've adjusted the CoG somehow... and I'm wondering why http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And in precisely 2 weeks, too! (since 4.03 was out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

I can see a flood of "...on rails!" whines coming to replace the wobbles thing. I really hope I'll be wrong on that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

I have only tried the P-51, but I'd say that Times Are A-changin' in Bob Dylan's words http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,
S.

Kuna_
02-23-2006, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blackpulpit1970:
Where did you download patch from cause i want yours mate...lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gamershe11.

BTW l00k what is Corsair capable of now (I made quick track);
Corsair_now_rox_big_time (http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj//tracks/offline/404__kunaf4u_feat.zip) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I actually did full -G loop after I shot down second Jack. Insanity. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
On realistic physics settings.

@DaimonSyrius about flying on rails... those players, if they find it too easy just fly J8A vs. LA-7 or something http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. This physics are certainly better for 99% of users (vs. 1% of masochysts).

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 12:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
@DaimonSyrius about flying on rails... those players, if they find it too easy just fly J8A vs. LA-7 or something http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. This physics are certainly better for 99% of users (vs. 1% of masochysts). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well you've been the first to spot it whatever it is, Kuna... well done! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

There's glory for you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,
S.

P.S.: Oh, and thanks 1C:Maddox, you're the best and getting better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

GT182
02-23-2006, 12:37 PM
Kuna, is this an official patch?

Kuna_
02-23-2006, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
Well you've been the first to spot it whatever it is, Kuna... well done! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

There's glory for you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,
S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks but you guys would all notice it within moments, difference is really great, so no big glory there for me.
+I was too excited when I saw it so I must post it here to share my joy with the rest of the gang. My girlfriend is looking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif at me, no help there.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Kuna_
02-23-2006, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GT182:
Kuna, is this an official patch? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/home.php

Yes it apparently is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

BTW Do-335 also seems to have minor changes, nose cannon has changed, while 2x20mm's seems to remains the same. Prop hub cannon looks like MK103.

Doug_Thompson
02-23-2006, 12:57 PM
The read-me says the Raiden is more manueverable and the high-speed stiffness of the 109 have been addressed.

Waldo.Pepper
02-23-2006, 01:07 PM
Glad for you.

Get thee a track IR!

I nearly tossed by cookies watching. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 01:08 PM
Definitely, something's changed... for the better.

At least the P-51, in my system, feels and flies better, less oscillations, but it isn't rigid either. More stable when shooting too.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Cheers,
S.

johnbn
02-23-2006, 01:27 PM
The wibble wobbles have gone.

No doubt about it.

Yipeeeee!!!

Thank you Mr Maddox and team!!

harryklein66
02-23-2006, 01:28 PM
My wobble are gone too !!!, the yaw don't move anymore when I move the stick in pitch or in roll in the joystick input graph http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Slechtvalk
02-23-2006, 01:41 PM
Seems to be fixed yes after a short test.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

lowfighter
02-23-2006, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
Definitely, something's changed... for the better.

At least the P-51, in my system, feels and flies better, less oscillations, but it isn't rigid either. More stable when shooting too.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Cheers,
S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You Syrius, you definitely feel happy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Cheers!

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 02:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lowfighter:
You Syrius, you definitely feel happy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Indeed, lowfighter, cheers! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifâ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jds1978
02-23-2006, 03:00 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

han freak solo
02-23-2006, 03:03 PM
That's what I call a surprise attack!

Never saw it coming . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Jetbuff
02-23-2006, 03:27 PM
I really am happy for all you guys. Enjoy! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Oh, and the first one to **** 4.04, for any reason, is a rotten egg!

*Stomach churns at the likely rotten omlette this place will become in precisely... two weeks!* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

GerritJ9
02-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Has the ammunition load for the Buffalo Mk.1's wing guns been corrected? The number of r.p.g. was halved in 4.03. There is nothing in the read-me for 4.04 about this, but neither was there any mention in the read-me for 4.03 about the reduction.
Have to wait until tomorrow before I can obtain the new patchhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

rnzoli
02-23-2006, 03:35 PM
tried Corsair, the change is noticable. Inputs on one axis don't interfere so much with other axis

shooting accuracy increased... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif but before declaring how ace will I be with this... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif I must remember that EVERYONE else shoots better, too..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
02-23-2006, 03:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blackpulpit1970:
Where did you download patch from cause i want yours mate...lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gamershe11.

BTW l00k what is Corsair capable of now (I made quick track);
Corsair_now_rox_big_time (http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj//tracks/offline/404__kunaf4u_feat.zip) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I actually did full -G loop after I shot down second Jack. Insanity. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
On realistic physics settings.

@DaimonSyrius about flying on rails... those players, if they find it too easy just fly J8A vs. LA-7 or something http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. This physics are certainly better for 99% of users (vs. 1% of masochysts). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Umm 109s could do a -G loop and many other planes well before this.

Chuck_Older
02-23-2006, 03:41 PM
It's official: all planes now Uber. Oleg pls re-pork planes so I can play again, k? k?11!!!one!11

blackpulpit1970
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Wow, thank you so much Oleg and company, you guys are the best, mu jug is deadly once again without the wobbles. Thanks

SeaFireLIV
02-23-2006, 04:08 PM
Well, I`ll have to fly a bit before I get too praising, but any improvements (whatever that may be) are welcome...

jds1978
02-23-2006, 05:40 PM
i don't buy the weaker .50 cal theory.

you may be right about the AI improvement http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DaimonSyrius
02-23-2006, 06:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jds1978:
i don't buy the weaker .50 cal theory. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif just came across one that is going cheaper on eBay... tempted?

Cheers,
S.

SithSpeeder
02-24-2006, 12:53 AM
Hmmm. I just did some wobble testing in my P-51 the other night, then repeated it post patch to 4.04m.

Sorry, I don't detect any difference http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

* _54th_Speeder *

DaimonSyrius
02-24-2006, 11:11 AM
Meanwhile...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Definitely, something's changed... for the better.
At least the P-51, in my system, feels and flies better, less oscillations, but it isn't rigid either. More stable when shooting too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And the day after...

It certainly feels good to me, and it's not 'on rails' either. If I try to correct the aim in the middle of a manoeuvre, I'll still have to struggle with the nose wanting to wander around, but that's in a way that appears to me as more 'proportionate' (for lack of a better word) than in 4.03.

With 4.03 I didn't have any uncontrollable or chaotic or erratic (as in unpredictable) nose-wandering ('wobbles'), but it took too much 'wrestling the stick' (I don't have pedals -yet-) to keep it under control. It was too twitchy.

Now with 4.04, I don't feel the need to wrestle the stick AND the way the plane reacts is also predictable when I am hamfisting the stick, or just manoeuvring hard. Predictable means, for me, that the gyro, P-factor, torque, etc., forces are there and are pushing, so no 'on rails' for me, but they push in a way that makes quite some sense to my aeronautically-uneducated mind, in a more proportionated way as I said.

This is only the next day, and having flown only the P-51D (and the P-47D for a short spin). BTW, I have a better (TM) feeling now, too, of the relative weights and sizes of both (P51 and P47), but it's too shortly after anyway.

So, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif from me (for what it may be worth)

Cheers,
S.

Jumoschwanz
02-24-2006, 01:05 PM
You mean you had trouble hitting targets in a Spitfire with six forward firing guns? Try a single nose cannon plane and see if you have any problems there still......

Jumoschwanz