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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 07:28 AM
Without checking my references, the G-10 series onwards had chin bulges just behind the Propeller Hub due to the new/bigger engine...were these just forgotten when the 3d Models were built?

http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/myme.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 07:28 AM
Without checking my references, the G-10 series onwards had chin bulges just behind the Propeller Hub due to the new/bigger engine...were these just forgotten when the 3d Models were built?

http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/myme.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 07:32 AM
Sory my english might be bad, what are "chin bulges" ?

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:33 AM
I dont know what they are either, but my Grandmother had them... LOL

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 09:18 AM
These bulges are a result of a larger marsh lubrication housing. IIRC these bulges are modelled and easy to be find on any skin.



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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 04:57 PM
Sorry Kimura,

You're confusing "chin bulges" with the larger bulge on top of the cowling.

Here are pics of what i am referring to:


http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/chin.jpg



http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/chin2.jpg



There were only evident on the DB605AS Engine (so in the game the G-10 and K-4)

I've double checked since seeing your post, and they are not there.





Message Edited on 08/28/0308:59AM by ptefuller

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 05:14 PM
Here's a good 109 question, too. Since back in IL2, why do all 109s have a shadow of an Emil? No matter which one you fly, you get the square-winged Emil shadow on the ground./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Now, I know this isn't very important to flying this game, I was just curious if anyone else noticed.

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 05:30 PM
SlickStick wrote:
- Here's a good 109 question, too. Since back in IL2,
- why do all 109s have a shadow of an Emil? No matter
- which one you fly, you get the square-winged Emil
- shadow on the ground



This has to do with blood lines, genetics and all that.

Didnt you know, you have the same shadow as your father?



Widgeon/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh yes, the 109 K has bilateral small bulges on the lower portion of the nose, as noted above. I built a model not too long ago and remember this characteristic.



Message Edited on 08/28/0312:34PM by widgeon

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:18 PM
ptefuller

No, that were exactly the bumps I reffered about. These bulgs caused by a larger oil swamp housing. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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Message Edited on 08/28/0308:31PM by KIMURA

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:38 PM
widgeon wrote:
- This has to do with blood lines, genetics and all
- that.
-
- Didnt you know, you have the same shadow as your
- father?

/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And what a fine, young offspring the 109 turned out to be. Papa Emil must be proud.

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 09:25 PM
I guess you could say the new 109s are a shadow of their former selves.



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Message Edited on 08/28/0304:26PM by SlickStick

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 10:03 PM
Von_Zero wrote:
- Sory my english might be bad, what are "chin bulges"
- ?

Chin bulges = (mot-a-mot) Gilme pe barbie /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://members.shaw.ca/cuski4678/sig.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 12:49 AM
hmmmm...

You said that they are modelled on the 109's and easy to see...

i can't see them on the G-10 or K-4...and my graphics setting is all the way up...though i am using a Georce4MX...could this be the problem?

http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/myme.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 08:54 AM
ptfuller how's about this? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


http://u1.lvcm.com/covsplace/CompletedWW2/images/BatzK-4_final2.jpg




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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 09:20 AM
SlickStick wrote:
- Here's a good 109 question, too. Since back in IL2,
- why do all 109s have a shadow of an Emil? No matter
- which one you fly, you get the square-winged Emil
- shadow on the ground
- Now, I know this isn't very important to flying this
- game, I was just curious if anyone else noticed.
-



Hey thats Eyecandy!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif for 109 lovers- same candy like the bulletwhole right in front of the 109 Crosshair /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And he is right the chinbulges are missing for the DB605D engine- maybe they thought.. ohh we made the G6 bulges much to big- so there is no need for some smaller ones in later versions /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
He ist talking about the bulges behind the propeller in front of the oil cooler.


its a big pic just copy and paste this, and put the w ww togehter

w ww.adlertag.de/bilder/g-10_schw_2/g-10_motor_re.jpg

JG53 PikAs Abbuzze
I./Gruppe

http://www.jg53-pikas.de/
http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/Ani_pikasbanner_langsam.gif


Message Edited on 08/29/0310:23AM by Abbuzze

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 09:33 AM
PTfuller is right after checking my skins.

the 3d model didn' got them, only some carefully working skinners applied them afterwards./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

edit: Hammster, for example, applied these bulges on all 3 K-4 skins he made.



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EJGr.Ost Kimura

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Message Edited on 08/29/0309:34AM by KIMURA

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 01:11 AM
cool...

Looks like i'll have to add them to some skins...

Thanks!

Maybe they'll include them in the next patch.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif yeah right!

http://ca.geocities.com/mikiebactor/myme.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 01:30 AM
cuski wrote:
-
- Von_Zero wrote:
-- Sory my english might be bad, what are "chin bulges"
-- ?
-
- Chin bulges = (mot-a-mot) Gilme pe barbie /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
-
http://members.shaw.ca/cuski4678/sig.jpg
-

AAAHHHHHHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Deci " battle of Bulge"= batalia de pe gilma?????
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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