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DIRTY-MAC
12-11-2007, 04:21 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=497692658753533...ype=search&plindex=4 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4976926587535335259&q=wwii&total=21254&start=70&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4)

DIRTY-MAC
12-11-2007, 04:21 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=497692658753533...ype=search&plindex=4 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4976926587535335259&q=wwii&total=21254&start=70&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4)

crucislancer
12-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Nice find!

I saw this a while ago on a documentary about the P-47, though the name of the program escapes me. I guess this was for Saipan.

Schwarz.13
12-11-2007, 05:11 PM
Wow - you'd think P-47s were made of balsa wood and filled with helium the way they took off!

Nice vid, thanks.

jolly_magpie
12-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Whew, those guys really seem to yank on the stick once they clear the deck.

Clipper_51
12-11-2007, 05:32 PM
Holy Smokes! Impressive. Those guys must have had a nice headache after that catapault went off

han freak solo
12-12-2007, 10:24 AM
Bumpski!

http://www.usaaf-noseart.co.uk/trank-bug.jpg

Choctaw111
12-12-2007, 11:31 AM
Talk about a real kick in the pants. Does anyone know when the first catapult launches took place? When were these movies taken?

BrotherVoodoo
12-12-2007, 11:59 AM
Sure makes you crave catapult support in IL2, huh? Cool video man!

Sergio_101
12-12-2007, 12:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BrotherVoodoo:
Sure makes you crave catapult support in IL2, huh? Cool video man! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Someone hacked the flight model......
No P-47 could do that.

Sergio

Worf101
12-12-2007, 02:30 PM
Good God that's one friggin large plane. Wow...

Nice find, curious. Were they transporting the 47's for the Army?

Da Worfster

crucislancer
12-12-2007, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Worf101:
Good God that's one friggin large plane. Wow...

Nice find, curious. Were they transporting the 47's for the Army?

Da Worfster </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup. They were on the way to Saipan.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
After loading 37 Army P-47 fighters, Manila Bay sailed 5 June for the Marianas. Steaming via Eniwetok, she reached the eastern approaches to Saipan 19 June. During the next 4 days she remained east of the embattled island as ships and planes of the Fast Carrier Task Force repulsed the Japanese Fleet in the Battle of the Philippine Sea, and inflicted staggering losses on the enemy, thus crippling the Imperial Navy's air strength permanently. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From USS Manila Bay on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Manila_Bay#New_Guinea)

roybaty
12-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Wow, I never new they launched P-47s off not to mention using hydraulic cats. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Fork-N-spoon
12-12-2007, 05:25 PM
The P-38 wasn't the US Army Air Corp's most numerical fighter in the PTO, it was the P-47. I wouldn't be afraid to say that P-47s outnumbered P-38s by a number of six to one. I forget the exact figure, but it was large. They had to get them out there some how... Since there were numerable Liberty ships built as CVEs, they seemed a likely mode of transport.

Yes, the Americans used hydraulic cats, it was the British that brought the steam cat into use.

Sergio_101
12-13-2007, 03:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
The P-38 wasn't the US Army Air Corp's most numerical fighter in the PTO, it was the P-47. I wouldn't be afraid to say that P-47s outnumbered P-38s by a number of six to one. I forget the exact figure, but it was large. They had to get them out there some how... Since there were numerable Liberty ships built as CVEs, they seemed a likely mode of transport.

Yes, the Americans used hydraulic cats, it was the British that brought the steam cat into use. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it was common practice for the Americans and Brits to deliver land based fighters in that manner.
I believe those P-47s carried maximum fuel and ammo as well.
Best to arrive with badly needed fuel and ammo!

Hydraulic cats were just as effective as steam on short decks.
But steam used a power source in plentiful supply......
And is superior on a long deck.

Keep in mind that a few B-25s took off of a carrier in 1942
for a trip to Tokyo, with no catapult assist.

Largest aircraft ever to take off and land from a carrier
was a USMC C-130D (exactly the same as a USAF C-130B).
It was a un modified C-130 with a simulated 10,000 lb payload.

No catapult, no hook.

The only special preperations was to paint a wide white line to give a clear allignment
due to the short clearance between the wing tips and the "island" and the flight deck was cleared.
One other minor "cheat", the pilot was a vetran fighter pilot with a perfect carrier operations record...
Copilot was a vetran C-130 driver.

Rumor was that the props were reversed in flight just before touchdown.
Not true, it was not a safe thing to do, in fact that would be suicide as the
props would never be perfectly in sync and the yaw would cause a crash.

Fact was the C-130 did the job with plenty of margin for error, landed and stopped within
less than 200 feet, took off within the same distance.
The aircraft was not backed up, they just released the brakes and flew off from where they stopped!
Yes, a C-130 could be easily backed up with no assistance.
No re-fueling was done on the carrier or in air.

I worked C-130s for four of my eight years in the USAF, awesome machine it is.
53 years after it's first flight you can still purchase a new one!
53 years of un interupted manufacture. I believe it's a record.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/c-130-carrier-takeoff/3644855998

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thumbnail...hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/truveo/images/thumbnails/A3/9A/A39A0BF0C610D0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/c-130-landing-on-aircraft-carrier/3495200714&h=90&w=120&sz=3&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=UzVTv4AyRFLF6M:&tbnh=66&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522C-130%2Bcarrier%2Btakeoff%2522%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D1 0%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff)

They made it look easy....

Sergio

KIMURA
12-13-2007, 03:39 AM
I'm sure the pilot of the 2nd one (@1:30 of the video) was soaked with sweak after that hairy start

Jediteo
12-13-2007, 04:28 AM
I wish we had cats in il2, would be very interesting what sorta stuff you could launch from the deck. would be a very nice addon for the immersion factor

Billy_BigBoy
12-13-2007, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KIMURA:
I'm sure the pilot of the 2nd one (@1:30 of the video) was soaked with sweak after that hairy start </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's for sure! He was REALY close to stall! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Cajun76
12-13-2007, 01:49 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/Launchsm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/P-47catapult.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/p4714.jpg