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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:28 AM
It's a dud.
If you feel that making all the flight models harder to fly
makes it more realistic, then it's a winner.
But over all I feel it's a giant step backwards.

You have taken the best flight combat flight sim ever developed
and reduced it to being little better than CFS2.

Sorry Oleg and team, you really screwed this one up....

Two thumbs down.

D

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:28 AM
It's a dud.
If you feel that making all the flight models harder to fly
makes it more realistic, then it's a winner.
But over all I feel it's a giant step backwards.

You have taken the best flight combat flight sim ever developed
and reduced it to being little better than CFS2.

Sorry Oleg and team, you really screwed this one up....

Two thumbs down.

D

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:48 AM
Too funny!

I would never have imagined that I would write one day these words, but "learn to fly"!

Now FB is a real sim, the best one in its area! Better than its concurrents, by a very large margin!


No more a pretty game with too easy FM's for arcade players! I can imagine that if you liked for instance the Uebercobra from the original FB, you are pretty surprised now.

Frankly, now it's a total blast to play online, because everything (FM's, DM's, sounds, graphics etc...) have been so much improved /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:54 AM
I forgot!

Two thumbs up /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:59 AM
Two thumbs up /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Toes too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

First impression of Patch: ROCK'n'ROLL !

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:23 PM
Erm. Yes. The new patch makes the FMs seem 100% more "real", especially if you fly planes yourself. It's a beautiful piece of work.

Thumbs skywards.

Don't moan just because you have to relearn a few aircraft!

Cheers 1C:Maddox!

SSS

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:24 PM
arf, indeed before posting such posts, you could have tried more than one or two planes...

i don't think fw190 pilots are to agree with you, neither are P47 pilots or P40 ones...

and i haven't, myself, tried all the planes...

landing is a bit harder, but we only need a little training, it is not that hard...

four thumbs up /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:30 PM
@ danderov

LEARN TO FLY!!!!!
If you can not handle the FM , then uncheck stalls and spins etc. and play.! But you can not expect all of us to play an arcade game so that YOU can feel happy for yourself beleiving that you play this game at full real so that your ego wont get hurt!!!! This game is not all about YOU, you know!! You have the option to use an easier fm if you want, do it, and leave us alone!

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:44 PM
I found this funny...for 6 months we got to hear how "FB dumbed down the flight models" and the day after the patch release someone complains already that it's "to hard again".

There's no pleasing everyone, you only die trying.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 01:25 PM
I think it's sort of a compromise between the IL-2 and FB FMs. Low speed maneuvering moves towards IL-2 like characteristics, while high speed maneuvering, seems even more efficient and fluid than even FB. (Although part of it is no doubt due to the control surfaces dumbed down because of high airspeed).





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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 02:14 PM
Well...
I have the exact opposite feeling...
The planes I tested after the patch (P-39, Bf109, FW190) seems way easier to fly, less prone to stall.... I would say a bit to easy to my taste (I don't say it's not realistic... juste less "tasty")

And it's easier than ever to recover from a spin... this is the end of deadly spins... I miss them
(and on this issue I'm not really sure it's more "realistic"...)

For the rest... all the new graphics details are nice
I didn't felt any significant upgrade in the multiplayer (still some lag and pauses with a medium loaded coop)

Need to test more to tell more


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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 02:50 PM
From what I had seen so far, I love the patch. The game has improved 100%. Two thumbs up here!

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 03:38 PM
3 thumbs up here!

If someone wants easier game, there are dificulty setting in game use them.


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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 04:32 PM
Yesterday I started a new campaign with my Bf109F-4 and in a escort mission, 3 I-16 type 18 appeared. 2 of them were downed, and then, I saw it. It brought tears to my eyes(i didn't play the leaked betas). The last I-16 tried to climb with a 109, the 109 yawed to the left(I suppose) and the I-16 stalled!! AI stalling!!! OMG, it was too much happiness for one person. The AI felt 2000m straight to the ground in a flat spin, ending in a column of smoke(loved the new ground crash smoke BTW)

I love the patch!!!!! Harder FM, I noticed when the uber F-4 stalled some times, and it was good. I am now trying to relearn my flying, and I love it! The only issue is the sound, but i'll try tweaking it today /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 05:13 PM
So what is so much harder about the FM now after the patch?

I've now flown the P-40, 262, Buffalo, and I-16 in the latest patch 1.1b and I didn't find anything really different under full realism settings.

The only thing I noticed was you have to reduce prop pitch quite a bit when landing or the plane will slow down too slowly to make a good landing.

So what else is making the FM too real?

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 05:16 PM
Oh, and the P-40 will tend to snap roll more often instead of entering a flat spin when it departs it's flight envelope. But that is easier to control than a flat spin, not harder. More advantages to the P-40 pilot trying to throw a 109 of his six too.

So seriously, what was updated that makes it a more difficult FM.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 06:26 PM
The 109F definitely feels different. It had to be flown a bit more carefully now--reminds me a bit of the original Il-2 FM.

Found myself coaxing and cursing my plane more than once, and had to concentrate somewhat harder after all those months flying the original FB FM.

The patch had made the game more challenging for me, and getting used to it is going to be fun.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:55 PM
CHDT wrote:
- Too funny!
-
- I would never have imagined that I would write one
- day these words, but "learn to fly"!
-
- Now FB is a real sim, the best one in its area!
- Better than its concurrents, by a very large margin!
-
-
- No more a pretty game with too easy FM's for arcade
- players! I can imagine that if you liked for
- instance the Uebercobra from the original FB, you
- are pretty surprised now.
-
- Frankly, now it's a total blast to play online,
- because everything (FM's, DM's, sounds, graphics
- etc...) have been so much improved /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- Cheers,
-
-Hear hear.
-You took the words right out of my mouth. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 10:02 PM
i think the new flight model is great! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

the new sound engine is utter shyte though, but hopefully we'll get another patch to remedy that fairly soon. i got my fingers crossed.