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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:02 PM
The gulag 'round here is not as appealing as it used to be. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Any news on the sty reopening?

Gemini? Anyone else?

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:02 PM
The gulag 'round here is not as appealing as it used to be. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Any news on the sty reopening?

Gemini? Anyone else?

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:15 PM
We're working on it TC...trust me!

We want it as much as everyone else.

We'll be able to say "poop" there.

Oh an maybe "crap".

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:15 PM
I believe the server is still
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:15 PM
Bump.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:16 PM
Thanks Helos.

God, this place is becoming depressing and pathetic. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:18 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:

- God, this place is becoming depressing and pathetic.

Truer words have never been said...

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:19 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:
- Thanks Helos.
-
- God, this place is becoming depressing and pathetic.

What do you think has caused this TC? Boredom waiting for the patch or deeper issues.

Any thoughts?



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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:24 PM
Ubi is trying to suck all the fun out of FB to improve lock on sales (inside sources have indicated)

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:25 PM
Hey TC...

It may take a little longer than expected due to some RL problems that REALLY need to be addressed. Only then the new Sty will be up.

I don't know why I answered this one, but since I was available and with the information at hand I thought of answer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And yes... this gulag is really freaking me out.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:25 PM
"What do you think has caused this TC? Boredom waiting for the patch or deeper issues.
Any thoughts?"

Excellent question, Chadburn.

In my humble opinion, how we got here was:

1) Abuse of the PL and UBI killing the whole thing rather than busting individual sh1t-disturbers.
2)Constant forum tech problems for months with ZERO communication to the users.
3)this non-scripting decision.

More than anything though, it has been a systematic and consistently poor communications and customer relations strategy by management since Stormin' left.

Bottom line is the place ain't fun anymore. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

My two cents.
Some of the old-timers might have better info.


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Message Edited on 06/26/0311:26AM by Tall_Canuck

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:26 PM
TC hits a homerun.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:27 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:
- My two cents.
- Some of the old-timers might have better info.


You summed up pretty nicely, TC.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:30 PM
TC meet bullseye

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:36 PM
Geez, thanks for the kid words guys.

It is sad and simply stupid business that UBI is allowing the degradation of its brand through this crappy forum.

What I mean is, I will buy another game by Maddox in a heartbeat because I see Oleg's dedication.

However, after my experiences in this forum, the UBI brand on a product will be poison to my eyes and I doubt that I would buy another game attached to UBI.

That may seem unfair but when faced with the pathetic communications and CRM strategy that UBI has followed, the typical consumer of these niche products will do the same.

Sad times ahead for UBI.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:39 PM
It was such a fun morning...Mutt on the loose, lots of laughs... i could even reread those posts and laugh again....if i could find them.
Yup, PL needed badly. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:47 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:
- In my humble opinion, how we got here was:
-
- 1) Abuse of the PL and UBI killing the whole thing
- rather than busting individual sh1t-disturbers.
- 2)Constant forum tech problems for months with ZERO
- communication to the users.
- 3)this non-scripting decision.


Yep.

I couldn't disagree with any of that.

This no-script business is just another in the succession of kicks in the teeth given by UBI to the board subscribers.

I am very fed up with the whole deal.

This forum looks likea good place to start a freelance PL, though:

http://forumsbb.ubi.com/messages/overview.asp?name=Testforum

The board software works, you get to keep your username and postcount, scripts are allowed and there doesn't appear to be a language filter or any moderation.

Some nutcase has even started a thread about visibility from the FW190 cockpit.

Check it out. TC has already./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:47 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:
- "What do you think has caused this TC? Boredom
- waiting for the patch or deeper issues.
- Any thoughts?"
-
- Excellent question, Chadburn.
-
- In my humble opinion, how we got here was:
-
- 1) Abuse of the PL and UBI killing the whole thing
- rather than busting individual sh1t-disturbers.
- 2)Constant forum tech problems for months with ZERO
- communication to the users.
- 3)this non-scripting decision.
-
- More than anything though, it has been a systematic
- and consistently poor communications and customer
- relations strategy by management since Stormin' left.
-
- Bottom line is the place ain't fun anymore. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
-
- My two cents.
- Some of the old-timers might have better info.


Bingo. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



IBTL_IATB wrote:
- Hey TC...
-
- It may take a little longer than expected due to
- some RL problems that REALLY need to be addressed.
- Only then the new Sty will be up.


That about sums it up. A needed change in thoughts and priorities were in order.

/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Wont it be nice to be able to write 'Helos is a #### licking ####' again without all the glares as if we're a bunch of Pigs or something?




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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:56 PM
OK, maybe I should finally make this silly website I have do something, http://www.goobage.com/index.php

I can start updating news and stuff and make it actually usefull, and as far as forums go, the only concession to "Good taste I would ask is that you link to Porn and add a warning instead of just posting the pics, that way people at work can surf without trouble.

The forums are here, http://www.goobage.com/forum.php

I could start updating things if it starts getting used, and I'll link it in my sig so people know about it.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 07:57 PM
Some good thoughts TC.

I've actually been here a long time myself (although you wouldn't know it by my post count) pre- mods and pre - PL ...that might explain some of my own boredom.

The problem with mods...not them personally, is that they act as a buffer for Ubi. Mods are like middle managers, they have to tow the line on company policy, but have no power to affect it. We can scream at them all we want, but there's little they can do.

When Stormin' was here, you felt like you were at least getting things from the horse's mouth. He was as subtle as a hammer to the head, but he gave you the straight goods.







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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:00 PM
BpGemini wrote:
-
- Wont it be nice to be able to write 'Helos is a ####
- licking ####' again without all the glares as if
- we're a bunch of Pigs or something?



Amen to that brother!

Everyone has to act like a ####ing Pu### around here.

Its starting to make my mother ####ing ba### itch!

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:03 PM
I'm still having fun../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

You guys are in peach denial.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:04 PM
Good points yourself, Chadburn.

The critical difference in my mind between now and when Stormin' was around was that he communicated with the forum and he participated IN the forum.

Point was you knew that he was around. You tended to watch your manners and you knew he was approacheable with a problem or question.
Simple, personal engagement like that makes a big difference.

vs. now. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Mods are great and they work hard but they ain't the decision makers and like you said, they are stuck in the middle.

Since Cartrix is never VISABLY around (no insult, just a fact) the monkeys often go wild, the moderate participants tend to dissappear and the community is the poorer for both of these.

Sad. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Anyone know what Stormin' is up to? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:05 PM
USAFHelos wrote:
- Amen to that brother!
-
- Everyone has to act like a ####ing Pu### around here.
-
- Its starting to make my mother ####ing ba### itch!


I heard Bunny sharpened her nails for just an occasion.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:10 PM
well, I pretty much would like to see the old pilot's lounge back.

But these feckers at ubi will never ever give us... and they have been taking all of our liberties away.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:12 PM
Ain't this OT

IBTL

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:19 PM
fneb

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:20 PM
YEs, please bring on the pig forum. I want to have fun again.

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The pilots lounge was this place you could go to find some humor. Sure, there were some flame wars, but generally it was a good natured place to hang out for a laugh or two.

Then that whole war started in the middle east and a whole bunch of trolls and flag wavers showed up and really ruined the place. I thought it was necessary to close it at the time, but now I kinda miss it. UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we talk about vulching and pings.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:21 PM
Tall_Canuck wrote:

- Point was you knew that he was around. You tended to
- watch your manners and you knew he was approacheable
- with a problem or question.
- Simple, personal engagement like that makes a big
- difference.


Management By Walking Around...remember that trend?

It was popular for a while, and that's what Stormin' practiced (in a virtual way). Guess it's gone out of style. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

But you're right; his personal involvement gave the forums a completely different feel.





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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:22 PM
A similar thing happened on the official Red Baron boards that the games producer, Sierra, hosted. A steady disintegration of support.

When they finally dumped the forum altogether the community needed a place to get together.

There was some fragmenting as people went off to various squadron hosted boards but then, one of the community members, a great guy named Jupes, created the "Wings of Honor" site.

Forums, skins, patches, mods, just about everything related to the game on one easy to navigate site. Not for nothing RB has remained popular for years after Sierra dumped it.

The community makes the game and i'm beginning to believe the producer site is not the place to foster the community.

Regards,
August

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:24 PM
Stormin' was awesome.

He was actually a part of the community. He posted quite often on several subjects.

He also had a keen sense of humor.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:24 PM
Marines scare me. Especially when they are behind me.

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The pilots lounge was this place you could go to find some humor. Sure, there were some flame wars, but generally it was a good natured place to hang out for a laugh or two.

Then that whole war started in the middle east and a whole bunch of trolls and flag wavers showed up and really ruined the place. I thought it was necessary to close it at the time, but now I kinda miss it. UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we talk about vulching and pings.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:30 PM
Ahhhh Stormin, the only UBI guy who ever banned me!

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:32 PM
You only got banned once?

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The pilots lounge was this place you could go to find some humor. Sure, there were some flame wars, but generally it was a good natured place to hang out for a laugh or two.

Then that whole war started in the middle east and a whole bunch of trolls and flag wavers showed up and really ruined the place. I thought it was necessary to close it at the time, but now I kinda miss it. UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we talk about vulching and pings.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:32 PM
Propwash wrote:

- UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we
- talk about vulching and pings.

Which reminds me of something that's been bugging me for a long time. How do you fix the sight on the Bf-109? It's off to the left.



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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:33 PM
Lean to the left.

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The pilots lounge was this place you could go to find some humor. Sure, there were some flame wars, but generally it was a good natured place to hang out for a laugh or two.

Then that whole war started in the middle east and a whole bunch of trolls and flag wavers showed up and really ruined the place. I thought it was necessary to close it at the time, but now I kinda miss it. UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we talk about vulching and pings.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:34 PM
Stormin was really losing it near the end of his reign though, was getting a bit irrational, at least with me.

He was kinda treating everyone like Ashcroft treats someone from the Middle East. Everyones a potential suspect.

He won me back though by embarrassing siggi repeatedly.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:34 PM
commie1 wrote:

- This forum looks likea good place to start a
- freelance PL, though:
-
- <a
- href="http://forumsbb.ubi.com/messages/overview.as
- p?name=Testforum"
- target=_blank>http://forumsbb.ubi.com/messages/ove
- rview.asp?name=Testforum</a>
-
-
- The board software works, you get to keep your
- username and postcount, scripts are allowed and
- there doesn't appear to be a language filter or any
- moderation.



Commie, your link leads to the german Ubi-Test-Forum for signatures and stuff. No problem to post there what ever you want.


But:

That forum is not only for the german IL2/FB-community, but for all german Ubi-Forums, means all games by Ubi in Germany.

If you try to post OT-Threads there, you will attract the attention of a lot of guys you won`t really like to deal with. Real asshats, ego-shooters and worse.

Forget about, believe me.


The german OT-forum for IL2/FB would be totally different, but well..., we already talked about.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 08:44 PM
Yup, just once.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:10 PM
Chadburn wrote:
-
- Propwash wrote:
-
-- UBI has decided not to re-open a new one so now we
-- talk about vulching and pings.
-
- Which reminds me of something that's been bugging me
- for a long time. How do you fix the sight on the
- Bf-109? It's off to the left.



Shift + F1





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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:15 PM
USAFHelos wrote:
-
- BpGemini wrote:
--
-- Wont it be nice to be able to write 'Helos is a ####
-- licking ####' again without all the glares as if
-- we're a bunch of Pigs or something?
-
-
-
-
- Amen to that brother!
-
- Everyone has to act like a ####ing Pu### around
- here.
-
- Its starting to make my mother ####ing ba### itch!


Uh-oh. You used bad language. You know this place is only for decent people. You've invoked the petulant demon of endless lecturing.

I fully expect to see Taz show up here any minute now...

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:18 PM
Icarus999 wrote:
- Uh-oh. You used bad language. You know this place
- is only for decent people. You've invoked the
- petulant demon of endless lecturing.
-
- I fully expect to see Taz show up here any minute
- now...

For heaven's saskes dude let him in! I need to laugh! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:44 PM
Icarus999 wrote:
- Uh-oh. You used bad language. You know this place
- is only for decent people. You've invoked the
- petulant demon of endless lecturing.
-
- I fully expect to see Taz show up here any minute
- now...
-
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif



Hark, in the distance what is this I see? It is Taz and his nunlings whom have come to lecture.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 11:59 PM
BpGemini wrote:

- Shift + F1

Thanks Gemini, but Iwas joking about Propwash's commnet on the same repetitive topics. The Shift + F1 seems to come up every week or two since the game first came out.

But you did prove a point! Even after all the time you've been here you're still willing to answer noobie questions politley!

Most people would have said: RTFFAQ!!!!


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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 12:16 AM
Chadburn is such a troll

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 12:54 AM
BpGemini wrote:
- Hark, in the distance what is this I see? It is Taz
- and his nunlings whom have come to lecture.

Nah, I don't really like smelly penguins...I got a picture for ya though:

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 12:56 AM
The shark is jumped?

Says who?

You?

Bah.

This whole thread stinks like THEM.

PS- Do any of you have that "not so fresh" feeling?

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 01:10 AM
IBTL Dave /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

<center>http://www.churchofthegrey.com/coolferret/hal9000/hal2.jpg <marquee>Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before and it has always been due to human error.</marquee></center>

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06-27-2003, 01:22 AM
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 01:23 AM
Crash_Man wrote:
- Chadburn is such a troll

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Message Edited on 06/26/0308:24PM by Chadburn