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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:50 PM
Just some thoughts...

When a new game comes out everybody is excited and marvels at the new graphics/features. However as time goes on and the "WOW" effect wears off people begin to notice the flaws.

This definitely seems to be the case for the members of this community. I have been reading the many threads posted by long time members of this community that rightly point out the flaws in the single player campaign, FM/DM as well as netcode issues with much regard. Some are even reloading their old IL2 software and having a better time!

All I can say is that I 100% agree with everything people are saying. I have only played FB online since I purchased it but after reading this forum I thought I would give the campaign a try to see if it was really that bad. WELL, IT IS! Wingmen are clueless and missions are setup it ways a novice commander would never dream of commiting his pilots to! Read the thread posted by Gibbage for more info. I also find it funny that some of the people who accused others of whining when they pointed out flaws are now complaining themselves! Yes, its become that bad.

Basically my message to UBI is this. Give us an update on the patch. Just an update. I am not demanding its release right now or anything. I believe that the patch is taking a long time since there is so much to be fixed. As Oleg said "Everything will be different." We do deserve some info however.

My big worry is that if LOMAC is released before the patch for FB the whole community will time-warp to modern combat and leave WWII in the dust!

Col. Tibbetts

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:50 PM
Just some thoughts...

When a new game comes out everybody is excited and marvels at the new graphics/features. However as time goes on and the "WOW" effect wears off people begin to notice the flaws.

This definitely seems to be the case for the members of this community. I have been reading the many threads posted by long time members of this community that rightly point out the flaws in the single player campaign, FM/DM as well as netcode issues with much regard. Some are even reloading their old IL2 software and having a better time!

All I can say is that I 100% agree with everything people are saying. I have only played FB online since I purchased it but after reading this forum I thought I would give the campaign a try to see if it was really that bad. WELL, IT IS! Wingmen are clueless and missions are setup it ways a novice commander would never dream of commiting his pilots to! Read the thread posted by Gibbage for more info. I also find it funny that some of the people who accused others of whining when they pointed out flaws are now complaining themselves! Yes, its become that bad.

Basically my message to UBI is this. Give us an update on the patch. Just an update. I am not demanding its release right now or anything. I believe that the patch is taking a long time since there is so much to be fixed. As Oleg said "Everything will be different." We do deserve some info however.

My big worry is that if LOMAC is released before the patch for FB the whole community will time-warp to modern combat and leave WWII in the dust!

Col. Tibbetts

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:54 PM
Except Oleg`s sims I will never buy a product that has UBI written on it.You guys have one of the lousiest service I`ve ever seen.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:58 PM
seems like the the top 3 postings on the forum are all about the lack of information,says alot i think,silence from ubi is deafening.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:01 PM
I am sorry, but I can't agree with you. I fly online mostly, and the connects have been incredible. And I should have expereince in that having flown Warbirds online since 1997. Hardly any warpage to mention. I also fly offline a bit, mostly quick missions, but i have dabbled in the campaigns. I have not yet seen any of the problems you have mentioned. FB for me has been a shining example of gaming software.

I do not believe that you are whining, but I also believe that the people who are constantly harping on the game here at this forum do not represnt the majority of owners of FB. And I also believe that some of their gripes are more a matter of opinion than they are a matter of fact.

I think everyone needs to keep perspective about their views before they start demanding things. If things were really bad, then I can see it, but I don't think this situation merits that reaction at all.



Message Edited on 07/07/0307:04PM by Hedus

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:07 PM
I'm just happy I'm not banned in this forum as I was in Splinter Cell and RavenShield for stating the obvious glaring deficiencies those games had. Can you believe the TECH support guys actually banned me for making a FACTUAL list of the things wrong with their software? We're very lucky here in this forum indeed.

Funny thing is that I returned Splinter Cell because it was "defective" (couldn't get past a certain level for no known reason), and with the proceeds bought RavenShield (before they patched the MP bugs), and needless to say I felt like one stupid forkin idiot after doing that.

FB I couldn't avoid but now when I see 'UBI' on things I put it right back on the shelf.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:07 PM
bump

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:10 PM
Hedus take it somewhere else man.This thread is about demand of information regarding the release of the patch v1.1 for "Forgotten Battles".


We`re trying to get some info ourselves but lack of UBI`s response in this matter is propostrous.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:15 PM
Hedus, the people in this community are more demanding than most. When a sequel to a great sim comes out and has more bugs than its predecessor and then UBI stops talking to us, you're damn right we're going to get irritated. I paid $70 CDN for FB and until it's fixed in the many ways I'm awaiting, I will be feeling ripped off and UBI will look like that friend that owes you money but isn't returning your calls. I don't like people like that.



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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:16 PM
It wouldn't have been a bad idea if Ubi had launched a sort of sub-patch...just to keep us-fans of the first IL hour-satisfied...Looks like they took the money and ran....

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:20 PM
Carguy, I beta'd Warbirds, WWIIOnline, Target Korea and Target Rabaul. I know how feedback is supposed to work. I was one of the loudest critics of the direction WBIII was going. I believe in biching when biching is due, but I don't see those problems here. Amazing too, how you guys react when someone doesn't have the same view, gives his 2 cents.

BTW, I was kicked off the Strike Fighters forum for bringing up its faults. If you thought FB has problems, Strike Fighters was infinitly worse. I don't paint rainbows everywhere I go, so if I state my opinion, it isn't just to stroke the company.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:23 PM
LOMAC? who cares about LOMAC isnt taht 1 of those jet sims ?
and more who cares about UBI
i never had a UBI product befor IL2/FB.
jet sims and ubi sucks.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:28 PM
Dexmeister wrote:
- Hedus, the people in this community are more
- demanding than most. When a sequel to a great sim
- comes out and has more bugs than its predecessor and
- then UBI stops talking to us, you're damn right
- we're going to get irritated.

In reality, this community isn't really all that demanding. Compared to the Mechwarrior community for instance, this one is remarkably patient. Similar problems with netcode and weapons balance in that game led to mass cries for a patch. And it has required several patches over time.

Now, many of you are complaining about online performance, wingman stupidity, etc. etc. I wish I had the luxury of even getting to that point. I am among the many (judging from the tech support forum) players who can't even get the game to run with any stability at all, in spite of having a machine that's far superior to the stated requirements, and in spite of following all the information the helpful members of the community provided to try and fix the problems I'm having with it.

I think about playing FB daily. . .and usually don't end up playing it, because I don't want to waste 20 minutes of reloading and rebooting just to get in 20 minutes of game time. THAT is a vast improvement over what I faced when I first tried to make this game work on my PC, and it's that fact that really discourages me.

I don't think people here are being impatient, I think the game has serious and numerous flaws that need to be addressed if we are to get our money's worth out of the game.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:29 PM
i hope i dont get banned and free speach is respected, tx

(nobody have to agree with me, i also will nobody force to agree /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif :i)

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:30 PM
I don't want to post to this thread...but.

Hedus - FB plays worse than IL2 online - less aircraft, less ground objects - more warping and lag. The AI is worse, etc... could go on and on.

Yes, FB brought CEM - not finished as admitted, but a nice feature. FB brought DM, it's very nice to hit a AC in a specific location to cause specific damage, although, again, not finished.

FB was a next step for IL2 - and people question if it was really a step back in many areas, areas of importance like FM, etc...we still have bad pauses on respawns, AI crashing into you in formation flying, etc...


I agree about Strike Fighters.

I think the consumers job is to push - because when companies release products like SF, etc... and we purchase it with expectations.

I agree with original post - the honeymoon period has ended http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:32 PM
Hedus? Hedu? Hmmmm. I played warbirds 2000-2002 you the same guy?



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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:34 PM
Very mature, pipgig. You don't even know the game.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:37 PM
Col_Tibbetts wrote:
- My big worry is that if LOMAC is released before the
- patch for FB the whole community will time-warp to
- modern combat and leave WWII in the dust!
-

I shouldn't worry about that, LO-MAC is an urban myth /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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ZG77_Nagual
07-07-2003, 08:38 PM
Sheesh you guys. I flew janes ww2 online ALOT in competition and otherwise - also cfs2. This simm, right out of the box is way way better than either of those in all aspects pathced or not. Janes is better now with all the mods - certainly the actualy 3d models are outstanding, but it doesn't touch il2 or FB in the flight model or any other area. The native FMs in cfs2 are a joke and it's engine does not support the kind of detail we have here.
Refusing to fly this simm until they patch it is just way over the top - the simm works great. I've probably run it on six completely different systems (FB) since it came out and it runs flawlessly on all of them (including my laptop).

You will NEVER get perfect flight models, or even perfect relative performance - there is allways going to be something to complain about.

I've got my server set to '42 because I like the plane balance better and some of the models do need some work - but the simm is really just excellent across the board, patch or no patch. I can understand a little anticipation but c'mon - the thing works great!

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:52 PM
roybaty wrote:
- Hedus? Hedu? Hmmmm. I played warbirds 2000-2002 you
- the same guy?
-
- Roy Baty
- III/7/JG2
-

Hehe, Hedu was my guess too Roy. (I played WB 98-02)

Agree with the first post. Too many game features are clearly unfinished or untested (if they were tested then many of the faults must have been obvious after an hour or so, so why was it released in that state?)

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:53 PM
*Counts to ten..*

1 mississippi..2 mississippi..3 mississippi..awh heck, this don't work.


This game is in no way superior to Il2, and i paid 45 euros for Il2 AND FB, and they are friggin the same games!

Yeah, blabla, there are a few more extra planes, the half finished CEM, half finished DM, and half finished FM all excellent and all, lemme tell you something all you "noble anti-whine knights in white satin" i paid for this junk, and now i demand a better product as well, else i could have saved myself the trouble and bought 2 copies of the original Il2.

This lack of information is starting to pi$$ me off, and i have never ever seen a company letting down it's customers like this.

And i don't care one bit if someone did see company XYZ do this and that and were lucky to have ubi blah blah. I didn't, so as far as i'm concerned, this company sucks >http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:56 PM
This is my first reply to any post concerning this subject. I thought I'd wait, be patient and see what info comes down about the content of the patch and a more definate release time. I think there are plenty of ppl like me who, until now, have stayed out of this but now even we are beginning to wonder.

What information is there on the patch?

In other words, I think that my reaching the point of staring to get impatient is a barometer of the situation. Normally I don't let this sort of stuff get to me. But now against my best efforts to resist the feeling....IT'S STARTING TO GET TO ME!!!!!

I think this community does indeed deserve some...ANY information about the patch!

So, to Oleg or UBI...somebody...PLEASE BE FORTHCOMING WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THE PATCH!!!! (you'll notice I said "please")

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 09:15 PM
All I can say is

<FONT SIZE = "+3"> THANK GOD FOR GIBBAGE1</FONT>

His updates have kept my excitement level up even about FB and its evolution.

I know the patch is long over due but so what. No updates on lo-mac site either for two weeks. Maybe the earth swallowed up everyone at 1c ubi and lo-mac developers? I sure hope not!

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Not whining since it'd be falling on deaf ears anyway.

lil'

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 09:24 PM
Honestly, does anyone at Ubi with more pull than a mod even look over these posts? I have been silently watching all of these type posts for months now, and seen a response maybe once. Ubi, step up to the plate. Don't run away like a scared kid. At least if they ask you for info and you don't ant to give it, say "No. Sorry, we don't want to give you any info." Even that would be better than the silence. I am beginnning to wonder what's worse for Ubi, the inexistence of a released patch, or all the negative publicity coming over these boards. Ubi, you have customers threatening to never buy your products again, yet you do not answer their calls?

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 10:06 PM
bumpidy bump

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 10:44 PM
Roybaty! Kernow! How the hell you been?! Yep, its me Hedu, first with the Pale Riders but been with JG26 for the last 3.5 years. Remember the golden days of WBs? Those were great times indeed. I wish some of the people here could have gone through the mess we did when WBIII started up. They would understand the lack of speed in updates.

Did you guys migrate over to Il-2 and FB? Great sim, has a lot of things I was asking for along time ago. Stigler flies FB too, I find him everyonce in a while in HL. He moved recently and is having troubles getting his PC up.

Good to see some old WB names here. <S>!

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 10:50 PM
Col_Tibbetts wrote:

Basically my message to UBI is this. Give us an
- update on the patch. Just an update. I am not
- demanding its release right now or anything.


Perhaps this has to do with Oleg´s illness. It seems to me when he is abscent nobody is told to hold contact with the gamers. Ore worse - nobody dares to talk to us!

As said before we paid for the game and was promissed a patch to be released short after european release of FB.

Time passes and date for patch is changed several times.

And now all in a sudden we don´t no anythin at all!!!

This is not proper way to treat the customers!

Ill treaten customers will not buy again and a lot people write on these forums and let us all know they are dissapointed indeed.

I wish the two way communication that used to be on these forums will live up again someday soon. Nowadays people w questions and ideas mostly get their answers from the community not the company. Makes the reading of the forums kinda dull.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:12 PM
bump

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:21 PM
honeymoon was over a long time ago for me when i got IL2 the minor problems like sniper gunners uberplanes FM DM screw up were tollerable but when ya spend 50 bucks for a game ya expect some problems but not the same freaking ones as in the original game.

Id of rather waited for a complete game then a partial game and wait for the patch forever to get it as good as the original.

Have to say its kind of sad that ya make the make the same mistakes twice in a row



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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:39 PM
TiGeR----- wrote:

- This lack of information is starting to pi$$ me off,
- and i have never ever seen a company letting down
- it's customers like this.

Does the name MICROSOFT ring a bell to you? ..... ;-]



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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:52 PM
Heh, it rings a bell with me. But I have to say, for the Mechwarrior game at least, the development team was on the ball with regards to keeping their player community up to date on the details of coming patches, and the patches generally didn't take all that long to be released.

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07-07-2003, 11:53 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 10:31 AM
Hedus wrote:
- Roybaty! Kernow! How the hell you been?! Yep, its
- me Hedu, first with the Pale Riders but been with
- JG26 for the last 3.5 years. Remember the golden
- days of WBs? Those were great times indeed. I wish
- some of the people here could have gone through the
- mess we did when WBIII started up. They would
- understand the lack of speed in updates.
-
- Did you guys migrate over to Il-2 and FB? Great
- sim, has a lot of things I was asking for along time
- ago. Stigler flies FB too, I find him everyonce in
- a while in HL. He moved recently and is having
- troubles getting his PC up.
-
- Good to see some old WB names here.
-
-
Hi Hedu, I'm fine. Got IL-2 just over a year ago and been playing ever since. Like you say, it had much of the realism we kept asking iEN to put into WB. One of the refreshing things after WB was the regular communication and development updates we used to get over here. Recently, however, it seems Ubi have taken on iEN's customer relations approach /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Until I got a new system I stuck to IL-2 only. Got FB now though, but I'm considering putting IL-2 on this computer now and, for the first time since leaving, might even consider WB3 again if the price was right. I doubt the patch will fix everything, (I wouldn't expect it too; there's too much for it all to work perfectly, I'm sure) but I'm hoping that it will at least get FB to where it should have been on release, and that another patch or 2 will 'perfect' it.

I got this computer specifically for FB, which I intended to be my 'main game' fo the next couple of years or so. However, I won't be playing FB, in its current state, for the next 2 years. The honeymoon period is certainly over and I'm looking to the patch, IL-2 or even WB3.

Doh! I mentioned patch, please lock this now/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



Message Edited on 07/08/0301:03PM by Kernow

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone other than the moderators read these forums anymore. Maybe Ubi went the way of the dodo, and no-one's told us yet.


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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 01:04 PM
"Yep, its me Hedu,"

Yikes -- there goes the neighborhood! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Hiya, John.

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 01:17 PM
Current top 5 lists of UBI forums:

No.1
- IL-2 Sturmovik - General Discussion (IL-2 Related)
Posts: 271312

No.2
- Ghost Recon - PC General Discussion Forum
Posts: 23379

No.3
- Myst III: Exile - MYST, RIVEN, EXILE Hints and Tips
Posts: 13396

No.4
- Conquest - General Discussion
Posts: 1774

No.5
- Black Thorn - General Discussion
Posts: 1658


So currently this forums is the biggest UBI forum.
So if GD is dying or already dead then all other UBI forums are long gone and mebby time to close em all. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 03:03 PM
This is just BS, how long does it take to write a single line on the board.

Even oleg could have responded by now.


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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 03:35 PM
It's understandable that people are getting impatient, but I don't need Oleg to tell me the patch isn't ready yet--I can see for myself that it hasn't been released whenever I visit the site. I also don't need for Oleg to make promises about the release date that he may not be able to keep (which has caused a lot of the problem we're talking about now.)

I don't need the patch done fast--I need it done right. If it ain't right, getting it today won't help me.

I bought Strike Fighters too. And compared to that circus this is nothing.

Patience. Patience.

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 03:59 PM
Patience only goes so far lest you are willing to die of old age before you get of your *** figuratively speaking and do something about it.

Anyone here ponder why suddenly there has been this big explosion of posts on this topic? Up until the last few days one would come and go but not a sudden how page mass of them. Many of us have simply ran out of patience, I'm fast approaching it as well. And "we" have endured a whole hell of alot of patience.

1. We bit our lip after buying FB and realizing the problems and hung onto the promise of a patch soon after the Euro release... never appeared.

2. We bit our lip again and stayed quiet after being told a quick patch wasn't coming but that due to the delay new planes would make it into the patch in May... weren't we fools.

3. We waited again quietly after being kicked in the stomach in that neither was the patch ready for May and that we would have to buy the planes as a seperate addon... More money for Ubisoft off the free work of independent modelers.

4. Patch release delayed again to early July, told in June patch in the hands of ubisoft and would be 2 to 3 weeks placing it in early July, we grited our teeth and took it quietly knowing it was most likely half-truth at best.

5. Its Early July soon to be Mid July, no comment from an developer, admin (Not a mod), Ubisoft press release. Nothing again do you grin and bear it or get of your *** and say something?

The choice is everyone's to make, and neither choice should ever be supressed.

The facts are that the patch isn't here and no word about it for half a month now. All the work gone into the patch won't be wasted though, at the very least it will be bundled with the addon. Money saver for Ubisoft because they get to save on bandwidth and adding a patch to a disk is virtually free. The addon is another money maker for Ubisoft, 1C will probably see little to none of the profits taken by ubisoft for independent modelers such as Gibbage that most likely had to sign over rights for their work on delivery to 1C/Ubisoft.

Make your choice... that is your right.

Quax46 wrote:
- It's understandable that people are getting
- impatient, but I don't need Oleg to tell me the
- patch isn't ready yet--I can see for myself that it
- hasn't been released whenever I visit the site. I
- also don't need for Oleg to make promises about the
- release date that he may not be able to keep (which
- has caused a lot of the problem we're talking about
- now.)
-
- I don't need the patch done fast--I need it done
- right. If it ain't right, getting it today won't
- help me.
-
- I bought Strike Fighters too. And compared to that
- circus this is nothing.
-
- Patience. Patience.
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 04:05 PM
The whinning in this forum is soooooooo hilarious /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 04:19 PM
As I said, I understand. But b*tching about it isn't going to speed up the process. Either the patch could have been out by now, but for some sadistic reason Ubi has decided to make us wait, or it isn't ready. I don't think the first is a possibility. And if it ain't ready, it ain't freakin' ready. And "getting off your ***" and complaining about it is not going to speed up the process.

I just don't think people should torture themselves, essentially, over an activity that's supposed to be entertainment. I just doesn't do any good.

When I didn't return this game to Best Buy as "unfinished," I accepted it as is--unfinished. But it's still a hell of a lot of fun. I'm just avoiding the irritating parts of the game while I wait for a patch. (At least Ubi ain't Microsoft!)

The best place to register your dissatisfaction is in the marketplace. It's the only language corporations understand anyway. They could care less about complaints as long as the numbers come out ahead.

The only thing that can do any good here is...patience. (I have to repeat that to myself from time to time, too)

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 04:23 PM
Quax46

Great post, but the whinners are crying so loud that they can't hear you. Their eyes are so puffy and red that they can't read what you wrote. In conclusion, they will continue to whine until they get their "fix" I mean patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW, patch whinners, you won't like flying against the Jug he he.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 06:30 PM
I had never intended to reply to any post like this, I intended to be one of the silent majority who sat waiting for information no matter how small or insignificant on the future release of the patch / addon etc.

I have throughly enjoyed flying this sim both online and off complete with flaws, and have been a flight sim nut for more years than I would care to admit.
And this is NOT A WHINE it is a plea to UBI or someone in authourity to release some information on what the current situation is.
We all payed our money and were all promised extra goodies, if that is not to be, fair enough but tell us this is the case, if we are to get the extra goodies then Please behave responsibly and release the information on what stage of testing you are at.
It is that simple and would allay many peoples thoughts of hostility and anger ( A little justified I feel ).

I do Totally agree with Cragger's post, I dont mind waiting but im afraid my crystal ball is not working and the information on the status of the patch addon is straining to get through.

Again someone in the know Please ( note the word Please ) let us know what is going on...........

Tsar78

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 08:48 PM
Ok. The patch will be released this month :July.



Message Edited on 07/08/0312:49PM by UCLANUPE

XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 06:33 PM
With all due respect to most of the posters on this thread, I find the complainers to be more spoiled than discerning. I may be giving away my age, but I've been playng WW2 combat flight simulators as an adult since the old LucasArts Battle of Britain title and I think FB is,comparatively speaking,less buggy than many of the more recent additions to the genre. For 99% of us it works out of the box, doesn't give us odd graphic artifacts, and doesn't crash at every menu change. To me, any PC game that meets these basic tests is pretty much OK. Yes, the game does have some design flaws, and reflects some unusual (not necessarily wrong) decision making on the part of its developers. It does need a patch (as does virtually everything else out there), but what other WW2 combat flight sim has given us so much out of the box? Given what it attempts in terms of graphics, FM, DM, number of flyable planes, and single-player options, I would not have expected better. All I can say is that the UBI and IC Maddox people must be getting pretty tired hearing all this complaining!