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Levon1981
08-18-2005, 10:38 AM
I still hope that one day Oleg will finaly include Ki-61-I Tei, the major production version of Hien, in the game because it was the best in terms of ballance between firepower and performance among all the Ki-61-Is. Ki-61-I Tei's (Kai C) firepower was a bit weeker than than Ki-61-I Hei's because of Ho-5 guns' synchronization (the rate of fire was reduced from nominal 850 r/min down to 650 r/min) but their accuracy was higher because they were located in the center of the fuselage. Althought the max speed was reduced comparing with Otsu, its maneuverabbility was higher than Hei's (because the comparebly heavier cannons were located in the fuselage, not in the wings) and was close to Otsu's, .
Talking about the specialized interceptor version of Ki-61-I Tei, armed with two wing 30 mm Ho-105 cannons (like on Ki-84-Ic) and a pair of synchronized Ho-103s in the cowling (rate of fire reduced from nominal 900 r/min down to 690 r/min), known as Ki-61-I Kai D in English transcription was produced in small numbers since December 1944. Unfortunatelly I have a very little information about this version but its flying performance was, I guess, lower than Ki-61-I Hei's but in terms of armament it was a deadly bomber killer and could have been used with a success if had good fighter escort.
I'm not loosing my hope to see them in PF, as they say: "hope dies at last".

Levon1981
08-18-2005, 10:38 AM
I still hope that one day Oleg will finaly include Ki-61-I Tei, the major production version of Hien, in the game because it was the best in terms of ballance between firepower and performance among all the Ki-61-Is. Ki-61-I Tei's (Kai C) firepower was a bit weeker than than Ki-61-I Hei's because of Ho-5 guns' synchronization (the rate of fire was reduced from nominal 850 r/min down to 650 r/min) but their accuracy was higher because they were located in the center of the fuselage. Althought the max speed was reduced comparing with Otsu, its maneuverabbility was higher than Hei's (because the comparebly heavier cannons were located in the fuselage, not in the wings) and was close to Otsu's, .
Talking about the specialized interceptor version of Ki-61-I Tei, armed with two wing 30 mm Ho-105 cannons (like on Ki-84-Ic) and a pair of synchronized Ho-103s in the cowling (rate of fire reduced from nominal 900 r/min down to 690 r/min), known as Ki-61-I Kai D in English transcription was produced in small numbers since December 1944. Unfortunatelly I have a very little information about this version but its flying performance was, I guess, lower than Ki-61-I Hei's but in terms of armament it was a deadly bomber killer and could have been used with a success if had good fighter escort.
I'm not loosing my hope to see them in PF, as they say: "hope dies at last".

LEBillfish
08-18-2005, 11:04 AM
Hi....where are you getting your information from?

Tater-SW-
08-18-2005, 11:16 AM
Bueschel mentions that some Ki-61-Id had 2xHo105 30mm in wings in a footnote.

tater

Levon1981
08-18-2005, 11:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
Hi....where are you getting your information from? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What information exactly are you talking about?

LEBillfish
08-18-2005, 11:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Bueschel mentions that some Ki-61-Id had 2xHo105 30mm in wings in a footnote.

tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, however where that information came from in his book was actually written "One or more...Test Aircraft"......It was never produced nor flown in combat that I can find.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Levon1981:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
Hi....where are you getting your information from? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What information exactly are you talking about? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All of your information you posted....Just curious I'd like to look at it myself.

SaQSoN
08-18-2005, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Can we hope to see the longnose Ki-61-I Tei( Kai C, D) in PF </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No.

LEBillfish
08-19-2005, 07:19 AM
btw Levon, I was not challenging you, yet simply asking. You would be shocked at the things they are still discovering about this plane.....As I have learned when it comes to the Ki-61, don't trust books, don't trust the internet, and question US & Japanese records...

So was sincere in wanting to track down what you found http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Levon1981
08-19-2005, 10:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
btw Levon, I was not challenging you, yet simply asking. You would be shocked at the things they are still discovering about this plane.....As I have learned when it comes to the Ki-61, don't trust books, don't trust the internet, and question US & Japanese records...

So was sincere in wanting to track down what you found http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The info about the longnose Ki-61-I Tei I took from old Soviet time magazine "Krilya" (if I'm not mistaken) of 1980s, I have borrowed it from my friend, there even was a picture (not a photo) of Ki-61-I Kai D's wing with Ho-105 (view from below). I'd love to post it hear but I don't know how to do that, maybe you guys will teach me how. By the way, I read somewear in a Russian site (I don't remember the name) that some Ki-61-I Kai Ds actually saw a very limmited service in the famous 244th sentai, of course I'm not shure weather it's true or not.

Waldo.Pepper
08-19-2005, 12:08 PM
email it to waldo.pepper@hotmail.com and I shall post it.

Waldo.Pepper
08-25-2005, 01:44 PM
As promised I got a picture and am posting it..

http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a03316/vickmaster/30mmwing.jpg

LEBillfish
08-25-2005, 01:59 PM
Anything else from the magazine you can post?

Waldo.Pepper
08-25-2005, 02:44 PM
If Levon sends it to me I will post it. Up to you Levon.