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VFS-214_Hawk
03-19-2007, 03:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXECP2GWhd8


Short Takeoff Roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qc1_gpPSkc&mode=related&search=

Compared to the F4U-1A: Note sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9yRVHazpI

VFS-214_Hawk
03-19-2007, 03:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXECP2GWhd8


Short Takeoff Roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qc1_gpPSkc&mode=related&search=

Compared to the F4U-1A: Note sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9yRVHazpI

BillyTheKid_22
03-19-2007, 04:13 PM
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM61070.jpg



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jagdgeschwader2
03-19-2007, 04:14 PM
Beautiful! Love the sound of that engine.

Also check out Luftfahrt Filmarchiv for videos you can save. The Corsair and 109 videos are not to be missed. Also the one labeled YAK 3 although it looks like some kind of LA-7 to me.
http://www.pozefilm.de/warbird.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

JG52Karaya-X
03-19-2007, 04:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jagdgeschwader2:
Also the one labeled YAK 3 although it looks like some kind of LA-7 to me.
http://www.pozefilm.de/warbird.html
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably a Yak11 then, a Yak3 with a radial engine!

Jagdgeschwader2
03-19-2007, 04:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jagdgeschwader2:
Also the one labeled YAK 3 although it looks like some kind of LA-7 to me.
http://www.pozefilm.de/warbird.html
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably a Yak11 then, a Yak3 with a radial engine! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are correct. Never heard of this one before.
http://www.warbirdalley.com/yak11.htm


http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

ElAurens
03-19-2007, 05:58 PM
The A6M's short takeoff run is amazing.

It really is a pretty aeroplane.

Waldo.Pepper
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
The Zero would not have been armed, and may also have a more modern/powerful engine than its wartime namesake. It is perhaps even a replica rather than an authentic warbird.

Chino operated the last - only Zero with a authentic engine IIRC

Still impressive/close enough for me.

Thanks!

fordfan25
03-19-2007, 06:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VFS-214_Hawk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXECP2GWhd8


Short Takeoff Roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qc1_gpPSkc&mode=related&search=

Compared to the F4U-1A: Note sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9yRVHazpI </div></BLOCKQUOTE>lol that F4u sounds alot like my truck. AWSOME. the zero sounds like a honda civic with the muffler remoaved LOL

Jagdgeschwader2
03-19-2007, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
The Zero would not have been armed, and may also have a more modern/powerful engine than its wartime namesake. It is perhaps even a replica rather than an authentic warbird.

Chino operated the last - only Zero with a authentic engine IIRC

Still impressive/close enough for me.

Thanks! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is the Chino zero. I would like to know the deatils of that last bit about the Grumman crew.

From the Planes of Fame museum:

After a successful flight-test program the Zero was shipped to Japan for a six-month tour, during which a number of demonstration flights were made over its original homeland.

Zero No 61-120 is now one of the star attractions in the "Planes of Fame" collection. Not surprisingly, in light of the scarcity of spare parts, the aircraft is flown judiciously and generally only in the Chino area. However, it does put on rousing demonstrations every year during the annual "Planes of Fame" Air Display which takes place in mid-May, and it is sometimes flown for other special occasions, It even spent a few hours in mock combat against the museum's Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat for the benefit of a Grumman Aircraft Co camera crew who produced a film for the National Air and Space Museum in Washington.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

fordfan25
03-19-2007, 06:56 PM
any info or vids of those mock dogfights http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
03-19-2007, 07:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jagdgeschwader2:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
....It even spent a few hours in mock combat against the museum's Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat for the benefit of a Grumman Aircraft Co camera crew who produced a film for the National Air and Space Museum in Washington.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope they paid Mitsubishi royalties. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
03-19-2007, 07:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
The Zero would not have been armed, and may also have a more modern/powerful engine than its wartime namesake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps the same as all other WWII flying aircraft now days!

VFS-214_Hawk
03-19-2007, 07:19 PM
They need to race that thing at Reno just for the hello of it!

tomtheyak
03-19-2007, 07:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fordfan25:

lol that F4u sounds alot like my truck. AWSOME. the zero sounds like a honda civic with the muffler remoaved LOL </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny thing is you should hear the FM-2 Wildcat we have at Duxford UK... that thing sounds like a bag of spanners in a washing machine! It's fantastic Lol!

BadA1m
03-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Tanks Hawk. I had no Idea there were any Zekes still flying (other than mine on hyper lobby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.giflove that sound.

ElAurens
03-19-2007, 08:46 PM
The Chino Zero is the only one flying with the original Mitsubishi engine.

Hence it doesn't get flown very much as replacement parts are virtually impossible to find.

You would have to be a complete moron to race it. It is an irreplaceable artifact.

The difference in sound between the two recordings is more a factor of the quality of the recording than the aircraft themselves. Of course the Corsair will be deeper and louder, it is a much larger engine making almost twice as much BHP.

The Honda Civic crack is totally baseless but understandable, seeing who it was posted by.

Waldo.Pepper
03-19-2007, 09:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That is the Chino zero. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kind of figured that. In that case the reduced weight from no weapons may offset the older engine. I bet they don't dare run the engine nearly as hard as they could have in 1944.

Gibbage1
03-20-2007, 01:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That is the Chino zero. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kind of figured that. In that case the reduced weight from no weapons may offset the older engine. I bet they don't dare run the engine nearly as hard as they could have in 1944. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Steve Hinton, in an interview, said they only run the engine at half boost, if even that, and dont put nearly as much stress on it.

Also, removing a few hundred points from an aircraft is NOT an easy thing. Its very complex, and most WWII aircraft still flying are ballasted to replicate the weight of the full weapons and ammo so they wont need to re-calculate the COG's. Most use sand bags in the ammo bays and replica guns.

So the demo you see is really a nutered Zero, and its WWII counterpart would do even better. Remember, they needed to take off from the deck of a carrier, so short take off's should not suprise you.

Waldo.Pepper
03-20-2007, 02:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">most WWII aircraft still flying are ballasted to replicate the weight of the full weapons and ammo so they wont need to re-calculate the COG's. Most use sand bags in the ammo bays and replica guns. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry but I know this to be false for several planes that I inspected and interviewed the pilots of at the EAA show in Wisconsin. Almost all the pilots were using the ammo bays to store personal items (I.E their clothing!) while they fly them to such shows. A nice theory though. I have footage of wartime Zero's taking off. Very short indeed. If you like I shall post what I have in mind.

EDIT: Found some Zero's taking off here. About 1:15min into the flick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBr_1AmsFE

La7_brook
03-20-2007, 02:41 AM
notice the sound of theses Dogs of War is unmatched http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-16ZVyHVZU

KIMURA
03-20-2007, 12:44 PM
The best RL sounds of inflight or at start procedure are:

1.Griffon-Spitfire
2.Bf109G
3.P-51/Spit (Merlin)
4.any R-2800

(whereas the Griffon is absolutely unmatched)

Richardsen
03-20-2007, 01:45 PM
Most warbirds today are lighter then they where in 1940s. They are usually stripped for armor plates, guns, self sealing fuel tanks, radio.....

Warrington_Wolf
03-20-2007, 04:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM61070.jpg



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You read my mind, lets see how the little bugger flies with 2000 .50s up the wazoo.

Waldo.Pepper
03-21-2007, 04:34 PM
Took me a day or so to scrounge up my old video tapes.

P-51 Sizlin Liz at Oshkosh Wisconsin EAA fly in. Note: the owner/pilots laundry that he carries in the ammo bins. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Sizlin%20Liz/SizlinLiz.jpg

It is easier to see in the 12 second video clip I uploaded to Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoknMKr7ZMI