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Huxley_S
04-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Kids today on't flight simulators... they don't know they're born.

Multi-core CPUs and fancy graphics cards, HO-TAS and the like.

In my day we had to make do wi' cardboard box. Our Engelbert sat inside wi' pencil and paper. He were always good at sums, like.

We didn't have none of yer la-di-da wide screen flat panel displays. We 'ad biscuit tin wi' a picture of a Spitfire on it.

Joysticks? Don't talk to me about joysticks. When I we're a lad we were lucky to have auld bog roll tube wi' buttons drawn on wi' piece o' coal.

TrackIR? TrackIR?!!!! For us, situational awareness was knowing when us father had been out drinking pints of mild of an evening. We'd 'ave to keep us heads down, like.

Back then, us real flight simmers knew the meaning of a damage model. I've still got lumps on me backside to prove it. I think father misheard me when I said something about an incoming Focke.

Them were't good auld days.

Huxley_S
04-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Kids today on't flight simulators... they don't know they're born.

Multi-core CPUs and fancy graphics cards, HO-TAS and the like.

In my day we had to make do wi' cardboard box. Our Engelbert sat inside wi' pencil and paper. He were always good at sums, like.

We didn't have none of yer la-di-da wide screen flat panel displays. We 'ad biscuit tin wi' a picture of a Spitfire on it.

Joysticks? Don't talk to me about joysticks. When I we're a lad we were lucky to have auld bog roll tube wi' buttons drawn on wi' piece o' coal.

TrackIR? TrackIR?!!!! For us, situational awareness was knowing when us father had been out drinking pints of mild of an evening. We'd 'ave to keep us heads down, like.

Back then, us real flight simmers knew the meaning of a damage model. I've still got lumps on me backside to prove it. I think father misheard me when I said something about an incoming Focke.

Them were't good auld days.

Bearcat99
04-08-2007, 01:10 PM
When I was a lad we used abandoned cars.....

Waldo.Pepper
04-08-2007, 01:12 PM
Your lucky! You had a computer. I remember playing Air Force, Dauntless (with the expansion pack) when I was a kid. Then I got my 286. Happy day! Not looking back after that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-Hj_hSoHw

K_Freddie
04-08-2007, 03:29 PM
Oh! what LUXURY you had..??

When we played sims, we had nothing but a brown paper bag, with no windows either to look out of. How we landed that bag, I have no idea.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Xiolablu3
04-08-2007, 03:46 PM
We had it tough....

We had to draw't' aeroplane ont piece of paper, sit ont wooden chair, and have me brother run around wit' picture, whilst making airplane noises. All this whilst eating lumps of Hot gravel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

leitmotiv
04-08-2007, 03:54 PM
The first flight simulators all of us had were little plastic airplanes held in our hands. Rattatattatkerbloooey.

Fearless16
04-08-2007, 04:08 PM
The first flight sim i played was European Air Wars, it was a great game.

Skycat_2
04-08-2007, 04:10 PM
Oh, how we used to DREAAAAAAAM of plastic airplanes in our hands ... our father gave us rusty knives held together with baling wire, covered with salt and lye for color, and they cut our hands to ribbons as we played dogfights in the middle of the road!

But we were happy even though we were poor.

badatit
04-08-2007, 04:23 PM
When I was a young kid, I had an old broken down bicycle with no tires (I have no idea where it came from). I flipped it upside down, and played with it for weeks.
First, the "engine" had to be tuned, and readied for flight.
Peak engine performance required two clothespins and two playing cards. The cards were carefully attached to the frame, and positioned in the spokes of the rear wheel, fastened into place with the clothespins. The front wheel was for steering. You'd steer it with your left hand, and use your right hand to run the engine. It made a great, powerful sound. The faster you cranked on the pedal, the better the sound.
One day it'd be my Ford Tri-Motor aircraft, the next day a motor boat, the next day a race car. What a wonderful machine it was. And boy, was it fast. It could take me any place I could dream up. Every kid should have one.

Taylortony
04-08-2007, 04:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
When I was a lad we used abandoned cars..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif When you were a lad you had to travel over 30 miles just to see a car.

http://www.character-cars.com/images/flintstone.jpg

Bo_Nidle
04-08-2007, 05:02 PM
You were lucky! I used to dream of having a broken down bicycle with no tyres! When I were a lad the closest thing we could get to a flight sim was drawing a pair of goggles on't cat with a permanent marker, whirling it around our head and chucking into next doors yard! If it landed in't goldfish pond it were a direct hit! Then dad would come home from t'pit and flog us to bed wi' 'is belt....if we were lucky!!!!!

But we were happy BECAUSE we were poor!!!!

Huxley_S
04-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Oooo... that would have been flight sim heaven for us.

On our once yearly day off from't mill we had to sit int' cockpit made from a couple of dead Alsations, in the middle o' t'road, eating lumps of cold gravel while little Engelbert threw poorly sparrows at us that we had to spit at.

Then me father would drown us all in't lake.

Skycat_2
04-08-2007, 05:35 PM
But you try to tell that to kids today, and they don't believe you.

RAF74_Raptor
04-09-2007, 01:54 AM
Bearcat I thought it was horse and buggy when you were a Kid


:P

partic_3
04-09-2007, 02:11 AM
Gawd, I hate Welshmen. Of course in our day we didn't have Welshmen...

Dagnabit
04-09-2007, 03:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by partic_3:
Gawd, I hate Welshmen. Of course in our day we didn't have Welshmen... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought they turned all the Welshmen in to Aussies.

Dag

Dagnabit
04-09-2007, 04:07 AM
I guess we were lucky my pop being obscenely rich and all. Every year we got a genuine cardboard box. It was great the year I got the empty paint bucket for my birthday. That gave us an on board WC, and pilotseat. When the bucket was 3/4 full we would throw in the neighbors cat, which gave us the best Hellcat motor sounds you could imagine.
EEEERRRRRRrrrrrrrroooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
That cat was a natural boorn aviator. And one of the best holiday meals we ever had.

Dag

WWSpinDry
04-09-2007, 07:36 AM
Avalon Hill's "Richtofen's War." There was a flight sim for ya. If you wanted to fly a co-op you dragged out a copy of "Midway."

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-09-2007, 07:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huxley_S:
Then me father would drown us all in't lake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know I shouldn't laugh...but I can't help it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Viper2005_
04-09-2007, 08:02 AM
At least the cardboard box allowed you to play in all the colours of your imagination and from a 1st person perspective. It didn't take 5 minutes to load either. Some people don't know they're born!

This was my first flightsim:

http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=435
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=435&screens

Diablo310th
04-09-2007, 08:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Your lucky! You had a computer. I remember playing Air Force, Dauntless (with the expansion pack) when I was a kid. Then I got my 286. Happy day! Not looking back after that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-Hj_hSoHw </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still have both those games along with lots more board wargames. Those were the days.

WWSpinDry
04-09-2007, 08:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Diablo310th:
I still have both those games along with lots more board wargames. Those were the days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yep; me too. These days they live in boxes in the attic instead of on shelves in the family room, but I can't bring myself to get rid of 'em. My kids wanted nothing to do with board games when they could have their games on computers. Ah, well.

SithSpeeder
04-09-2007, 08:40 AM
I recall having these WWI flip books (Allies vs. Axis) with pictures of your view and a choice of maneuvers across the bottom. You'd pick a maneuver which would have an associated page number that you'd call out. Your mate/enemy would do the same, then you'd both shift to a final page and depending on your range, you'd score points if you could bring your guns to bear (it was pretty slick).

I forgot what it was called, though. I think those books live somewhere in the bottom of a box in my garage.

* _54th_Speeder *

ochi
04-09-2007, 08:49 AM
When i was a kid, I built plastic models of warbirds, 1/72 scale. Me and my brothers would build airfields in the woods behind the house with revetments made out of dirt and twigs. We'd use the models for ground attack runs. Pine cones were bombs and matches were rockets. We'd light the matches and fling them at the target, if they hit, the twigs would light up for a great fire and smoke effect. One time we got a little excessive with the matches and lit the woods on fire.

Breeze147
04-09-2007, 08:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huxley_S:
Oooo... that would have been flight sim heaven for us.

On our once yearly day off from't mill we had to sit int' cockpit made from a couple of dead Alsations, in the middle o' t'road, eating lumps of cold gravel while little Engelbert threw poorly sparrows at us that we had to spit at.

Then me father would drown us all in't lake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You had GRAVEL to eat, you lucky bastard!! We would go down to the sea and scrape sea gull droppings off the pier railings. Mix it up with squished flies from the rich neighbor's swatter. Mix it with our own spittle to make a stew.

WWSpinDry
04-09-2007, 09:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SithSpeeder:
I recall having these WWI flip books (Allies vs. Axis)...I forgot what it was called, though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ace of Aces. I still have the "Powerhouse Series" set, the rest vanished at some point during many military moves. I loved those things!

Old_Canuck
04-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Over 40 years ago it was penciled stick-figure-aircraft dogfights that my wingman and I passed back and forth in class. Back then my sanity was never in question because I was "just being a kid." Nowadays with TIR, Rudder pedals and a desktop like this:
http://www.woodbuddies.com/PF/andys2.jpg my wife is looking for one more signature on the form to have me put away on the funny farm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Taylortony
04-09-2007, 02:17 PM
Bearcat still wears his old underwear on his head as he did when he was a Kid to simulate his flying helmet......... check out some of his old pictures, they are on the shelf http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

M_Gunz
04-09-2007, 03:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
When I was a lad we used abandoned cars..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, we -say- they were abandoned... nobody wuz innem when we got there!

&lt;w&gt;

Actually did that with an old pickup behind the barn at Gram's over 40 years ago, way you say BC.

M_Gunz
04-09-2007, 03:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
When I was a lad we used abandoned cars..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif When you were a lad you had to travel over 30 miles just to see a car.

http://www.character-cars.com/images/flintstone.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't you know it. 30 below through 3 feet of snow, there and back, uphill both ways!

Akronnick
04-10-2007, 01:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
Over 40 years ago it was penciled stick-figure-aircraft dogfights that my wingman and I passed back and forth in class. Back then my sanity was never in question because I was "just being a kid." Nowadays with TIR, Rudder pedals and a desktop like this:
http://www.woodbuddies.com/PF/andys2.jpg my wife is looking for one more signature on the form to have me put away on the funny farm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So if I sign the form for her, will your wife let me have the TIR, Rudder pedals, and desktop?

scottmal1
04-10-2007, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huxley_S:
Oooo... that would have been flight sim heaven for us.

On our once yearly day off from't mill we had to sit int' cockpit made from a couple of dead Alsations, in the middle o' t'road, eating lumps of cold gravel while little Engelbert threw poorly sparrows at us that we had to spit at.

Then me father would drown us all in't lake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Billiant!

Old_Canuck
04-10-2007, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Akronnick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
Over 40 years ago it was penciled stick-figure-aircraft dogfights that my wingman and I passed back and forth in class. Back then my sanity was never in question because I was "just being a kid." Nowadays with TIR, Rudder pedals and a desktop like this:
http://www.woodbuddies.com/PF/andys2.jpg my wife is looking for one more signature on the form to have me put away on the funny farm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So if I sign the form for her, will your wife let me have the TIR, Rudder pedals, and desktop? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the offer but the problem's been solved already. I agreed to sign the form myself but the gear goes with me to the funny farm.

Bearcat99
04-11-2007, 06:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
When I was a lad we used abandoned cars..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif When you were a lad you had to travel over 30 miles just to see a car.

http://www.character-cars.com/images/flintstone.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Worf101
04-11-2007, 07:17 AM
You know that in a thread like this..

FIRST LIAR NEVER STANDS A CHANCE!!!


When I was a lad... we didn't even have food.. all we had was rocks. And to git nourishment you had to suck on the rock and hope you got a scrap o' meat wit it!!

Da Worfster

Bewolf
04-11-2007, 07:29 AM
Ha! We were far ahead of you. We build planes out of sheets of paper, by folding, and painted them accordingly. Those things actually flew, hehe.

Oh, and the plastic models. Those were the days. I used to blow them up when they grew old as they didn't tend to do so well in my hands. I just couldn't just let them stand around.

Sillius_Sodus
04-11-2007, 08:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Worf101:
You know that in a thread like this..

FIRST LIAR NEVER STANDS A CHANCE!!!


When I was a lad... we didn't even have food.. all we had was rocks. And to git nourishment you had to suck on the rock and hope you got a scrap o' meat wit it!!

Da Worfster </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Worf101,

You forgot to add: "And we were thankful!"

Sillius_Sodus

woofiedog
04-11-2007, 11:13 PM
WWSpinDry... Still have my Avalon Hill games... Luftwaffe, France 1940 and a few more.

Great games!

http://hometown.aol.ca/gamepicks/ahluft01.jpg