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jensenpark
08-04-2005, 10:28 AM
The last line sums it all up I think

Ernest (Smoky) Smith, who was the last surviving Canadian Victoria Cross recipient, died Wednesday. He was 91.

Mr. Smith, a Second World War veteran in the Italian campaign, was a private with the Seaforth Highlanders in northern Italy when he almost single-handedly held off three German tanks, two self-propelled guns and 30 German soldiers on a rain-soaked night in October of 1944.

According to the citation for the Victoria Cross, the situation was virtually hopeless when the young soldier showed amazing gallantry in fighting off the enemy with a PIAT, a bazooka-like antitank gun.

Governor-General Adrienne Clarkson remembered Mr. Smith as a wonderful friend.

€œ Every Remembrance Day, he came for tea (and Scotch!) and was a vivid reminder of our country's heroism in World War II,€ she said in a statement.

€œLike many others who serve our country, he took his place alongside his fellow comrades at arms to fight for freedom. It was a daunting task, but he did it like his comrades without fanfare, without hesitation, with great pride and determination.€

Mr. Smith was 25 when he joined the Highlanders in 1940 in his native Vancouver. He had worked as a driver, a bricklayer before he signed up. He was shipped off to Britain and finally saw action in 1943 in southern Italy.

There, he was struck in the chest by shrapnel on the flanks of Mount Etna. Three months later, his chest still bandaged, he was back on the march with his unit.

He was one of the few privates to win the award, and he retained the ordinary soldier's disdain for the officer corps.

After a few years of civilian life, he decided to sign up again to fight in Korea. He then stayed in the armed forces until he retired as a sergeant at the age of 50. Then he started a new career as a travel agent, working alongside his wife. He retired again when he was 82.

"On behalf of a grateful and indebted nation, I would like to express my deepest condolences to his children, David and Norma-Jean; his grandchildren, Dan and Amanda; and his great-granddaughter, Jewele," Prime Minister Paul Martin said.

"We are a better nation because of men like Sgt. Smokey Smith. He was €" and will always be €" a much-respected and remarkable Canadian hero."

jensenpark
08-04-2005, 10:28 AM
The last line sums it all up I think

Ernest (Smoky) Smith, who was the last surviving Canadian Victoria Cross recipient, died Wednesday. He was 91.

Mr. Smith, a Second World War veteran in the Italian campaign, was a private with the Seaforth Highlanders in northern Italy when he almost single-handedly held off three German tanks, two self-propelled guns and 30 German soldiers on a rain-soaked night in October of 1944.

According to the citation for the Victoria Cross, the situation was virtually hopeless when the young soldier showed amazing gallantry in fighting off the enemy with a PIAT, a bazooka-like antitank gun.

Governor-General Adrienne Clarkson remembered Mr. Smith as a wonderful friend.

€œ Every Remembrance Day, he came for tea (and Scotch!) and was a vivid reminder of our country's heroism in World War II,€ she said in a statement.

€œLike many others who serve our country, he took his place alongside his fellow comrades at arms to fight for freedom. It was a daunting task, but he did it like his comrades without fanfare, without hesitation, with great pride and determination.€

Mr. Smith was 25 when he joined the Highlanders in 1940 in his native Vancouver. He had worked as a driver, a bricklayer before he signed up. He was shipped off to Britain and finally saw action in 1943 in southern Italy.

There, he was struck in the chest by shrapnel on the flanks of Mount Etna. Three months later, his chest still bandaged, he was back on the march with his unit.

He was one of the few privates to win the award, and he retained the ordinary soldier's disdain for the officer corps.

After a few years of civilian life, he decided to sign up again to fight in Korea. He then stayed in the armed forces until he retired as a sergeant at the age of 50. Then he started a new career as a travel agent, working alongside his wife. He retired again when he was 82.

"On behalf of a grateful and indebted nation, I would like to express my deepest condolences to his children, David and Norma-Jean; his grandchildren, Dan and Amanda; and his great-granddaughter, Jewele," Prime Minister Paul Martin said.

"We are a better nation because of men like Sgt. Smokey Smith. He was €" and will always be €" a much-respected and remarkable Canadian hero."

Udidtoo
08-04-2005, 10:34 AM
The inevitability of it doesn't make watching their ranks thin any less sad.

S' Veterns

p1ngu666
08-04-2005, 10:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

gotta respect anyone who gets a VC really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

KRISTORF
08-04-2005, 12:43 PM
Got to respect all the young men that put their country and their lives before their life.

JG52_wunsch
08-04-2005, 05:08 PM
i ve stood beside smokey the last four years at rememberance day,shook his hand the first year,awesome fella,awesome exploits.he wasn t feeling well this year,but still made the trip
to normandy this for the anniversary.a true HERO.S!

HotelBushranger
08-05-2005, 01:56 AM
Wow....sounds like a REALLY amazing man. By the sounds of things, he deserves a VC and a half.

My feelings go to a true hero and great man

Capt._Tenneal
08-05-2005, 07:39 AM
He might be last in a while too, as I don't see Canadians getting into a shooting war anytime soon.

jensenpark
08-05-2005, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
He might be last in a while too, as I don't see Canadians getting into a shooting war anytime soon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, we've got a strong group in Afghanistan right now. The new Armed Forces Chieft stated the goal of this particular mission was to go out and find and kill the 'scumbags'. Nice change of pace.

Capt._Tenneal
08-05-2005, 09:00 AM
If a VC is awarded now, how will this work ? Can Canada unilaterally decide to award the VC or will they have to get an OK from the Brits ? Sorry if I sound like a newb, but I'm truly ignorant about this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

p1ngu666
08-05-2005, 10:46 AM
hm not sure, but the standard to get a VC has risen over time. today u might haveto capture osma bin laden and co, incapcitate them with ur own spine, then save a large number of friendlys somehow.
u might also haveto die aswell.

also, a VC is the most important "title" or similer u can have in your name, and it cant be taken away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Lord_Rhah
08-05-2005, 11:18 AM
the most recent VC was one in Iraq, most people have probably read the story, but i'll post the link up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4358921.stm

very brave bloke. though, that kind of comes with the territory for a VC winner.

woofiedog
08-05-2005, 02:32 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif May God Bless

p1ngu666
08-05-2005, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lord_Rhah:
the most recent VC was one in Iraq, most people have probably read the story, but i'll post the link up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4358921.stm

very brave bloke. though, that kind of comes with the territory for a VC winner. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif didnt know that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

jetsetsam
08-05-2005, 06:42 PM
I read in the local media that there's going to be a funeral procession next week in Vancouver with 300 vets marching in front, across Burrard Bridge and then on to one of the old historic churches in downtown Vancouver (St. Wesley's?). And you can bet that his regiment will be well-represented as well. I hope there's a pipe band. The sound is hard to deal with but they do tear at your heart.

I'm sure he had his own issues in life, but he did live to be 91 and was a well-known and deserved recipient of the VC for about 65 years. That would add a certain quality to a long life.

A life to celebrate.

I'm finding the time next week to pay my respects at the procession for an admirable Canadian.

Hoarmurath
08-05-2005, 07:07 PM
really sad.

thx for everything, and rest in piece

buglord
08-05-2005, 09:48 PM
My respects RIP VC Ernest (Smoky) Smith, S~

PBNA-Boosher
08-05-2005, 09:57 PM
Medal of Honor, VC, Iron Cross, or not, I agree, any man/woman who serves his/her country deserves enormous respect.

VF-29_Sandman
08-05-2005, 10:44 PM
if the vc is the same as the states medal of honor, the man went above and beyond the call and with extreme risk to himself. obviously, surrender or retreat wasnt in his vocabulary. it takes a special man to do what he did. god was definately on his side as most medal of honor winners were kia during. r.i.p.

JG52_wunsch
08-06-2005, 12:49 PM
The text of the official Victoria Cross citation:

"In Italy on the night of 21st-22nd October 1944, a Canadian Infantry Brigade was ordered to establish a bridgehead across the Savio River. The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada were selected as the spearhead of the attack, and in weather most unfavourable to the operation they crossed the river and captured their objective in spite of strong opposition from the enemy.

Torrential rain had caused the Savio River to rise six feet in five hours, and as the soft vertical banks made it impossible to bridge the river no tanks or anti-tank guns could be taken across the raging stream to the support of the rifle companies.

As the right forward company was consolidating its objective it was suddenly counter-attacked by a troop of three Mark V Panther tanks supported by two self-propelled guns and about thirty infantry and the situation appeared hopeless.

Under heavy fire from the approaching enemy tanks, Private Smith, showing great initiative and inspiring leadership, led his P.I.A.T.(1) Group of two men across an open field to a position from which the P.I.A.T. could best be employed. Leaving one man on the weapon, Private Smith crossed the road with a companion and obtained another P.I.A.T. Almost immediately an enemy tank came down the road firing its machine-guns along the line of the ditches. Private Smith's comrade was wounded. At a range of thirty feet and having to expose himself to the full view of the enemy, Private Smith fired the P.I.A.T. and hit the tank, putting it out of action. Ten German infantry immediately jumped off the back of the tank and charged him with Schmeissers and grenades. Without hesitation Private Smith moved out on the road and with his Tommy gun at point-blank range, killed four Germans and drove the remainder back. Almost immediately another tank opened fire and more enemy infantry closed in on Smith's position. Obtaining some abandoned Tommy gun magazines from a ditch, he steadfastly held his position, protecting his comrade and fighting the enemy with his Tommy gun until they finally gave up and withdrew in disorder.

One tank and both self-propelled guns had been destroyed by this time, but yet another tank swept the area with fire from a longer range. Private Smith, still showing utter contempt for enemy fire, helped his wounded friend to cover and obtained medical aid for him behind a nearby building. He then returned to his position beside the road to await the possibility of a further enemy attack.

No further immediate attack developed, and as a result the battalion was able to consolidate the bridgehead position so vital to the success of the whole operation, which led to the capture of San Giorgio Di Cesena and a further advance to the Ronco River.

Thus, by the dogged determination, outstanding devotion to duty and superb gallantry of this private soldier, his comrades were so inspired that the bridgehead was held firm against all enemy attacks, pending the arrival of tanks and anti-tank guns some hours later."

buzzsaw posted this simhQ,its worth posting it here.rip Smoky.

gkll
08-06-2005, 11:44 PM
I salute the bloke and his generation. My grandfathers stand with him now.

Pirschjaeger
08-07-2005, 12:00 AM
Although to us he is one of the bravest of the brave, I think he'd have said fear was his inspiration.

R.I.P.

Fritz

steve_v
08-07-2005, 12:06 AM
May he rest in peace, and his actions remembered.

huggy87
08-07-2005, 11:24 AM
Educate an unfamiliar american... Is the award specifically the "Canadian VC"? Is there an Australian VC and the like? Does the UK have any say in who gets awarded what?

JG52_wunsch
08-07-2005, 05:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by huggy87:
Educate an unfamiliar american... Is the award specifically the "Canadian VC"? Is there an Australian VC and the like? Does the UK have any say in who gets awarded what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

negative,commonwealth only,i believe,not sure if we can even recieve it anymore.maybe someone else knows.S! rip

p1ngu666
08-07-2005, 06:24 PM
i think it might go to anyone in the service of the UK, or who helps them possibly.

VC is the highest award you can get, and anyone can get it... from a major to a conscript..

its equal to the MOH i guess, so may argue the toss either way, to win either is very special http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif