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Ianoneshot
03-09-2018, 12:32 AM
What happened to this For Honor?
I know many are going to say "its motion capture" and " too hard to implement all the realistic mechanics" and "armor clipping issues" and "graphics are too good" and "the player base would be very small."

That's not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for a story for what happened to this for honor. May anyone please shine some light on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1HkuGUaNBY

part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUS35TYWHjU

part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7wArqnKgg8


(idk if this is actual lore or not but it seems legit)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQo2VWSK_mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R26-yiwrBmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olB67PT8pJ0



I kinda want this game more than the one we have now.

Maybe make it into one big gamemode or something idk... (btw this was not intended as a suggestion thread)

Vakris_One
03-09-2018, 12:51 AM
The first 3 videos are the developer's proof of concept creations. None of them are actual gameplay, they are all pre-rendered videos.They were made so the devs could pitch the project and for people to get a general idea of what kind of game they wanted to make. It's basically the developers putting out their ideas freely into a pre-arranged video sequence without worrying too much about how the mechanics of it or the tech will work at that point. During the development process they then started working out the mechanics of the fighting system, the how and what could be done with the tech, the game modes and etc. The concept naturally evolved over the course of developing the actual gameplay until we got the For Honor from the first alpha.

The last 3 videos (Knights, Vikings, Samurai) looks to be something a fan made by narrating over the footage.

Tecknoterrorist
03-09-2018, 12:55 AM
omg the original version is BEST! omg ubisoft!!! why you change that???

goatwack
03-09-2018, 01:03 AM
What is that in part1? The 'Wonqueror'? :nonchalance:

Looks very gritty and far more in keeping with the original theme, but given how all developers can flesh out an incomplete game over several months, the game was always going to morph into something else. Plus the original concept of For Honor would have only kept a very tiny hardcore player base I believe.

Ianoneshot
03-09-2018, 01:24 AM
Look I know that it was never real and that the last videos seems fan-made (btw I mentioned that). I thought they could have the same art, customization, and keep the today version of For Honor. Just so you know.

Vakris_One
03-09-2018, 01:36 AM
Look I know that it was never real and that the last videos seems fan-made (btw I mentioned that). I thought they could have the same art, customization, and keep the today version of For Honor. Just so you know.
We may never know what happened to that vision of For Honor. It looked like they were going for something much more realism based than this current version of For Honor and also something more akin to Dynasty Warriors in terms of the premise, i.e. a more free roaming kind of battlefield. I first had the impression that it was going to be an MMO when I first saw that Knight vs Viking video. Something like you create a unique character and then go fighting in different battlefields all the while pillaging all sorts of different weapons and armour with which to customise your hero.

I'd love to see that game be made a reality some day even though I have come to enjoy this version of For Honor.

RoosterIlluzion
03-09-2018, 02:05 AM
All flash my friend. Made to look good to sell an idea. They're pretty as hell, but too slow imo. Remember when bungie did this for Destiny? Oooh, Ahhh, so much awesome! Many gimmicky!

It sucked *** because it was nothing like they promised.

Ianoneshot
03-09-2018, 02:39 AM
All flash my friend. Made to look to sell and idea. They're pretty as hall, but too slow imo. Remember when bungi did this for Destiny? Oooh, Ahhh, so much awesome! Many gimmicky!

It sucked *** because it was nothing like they promised.
Looks this WAS going to be For Honor, until I heard from Ubi that many bugs happened so they swapped it. Then they went for the more.... general public of the game, this was nothing about marketing. Stop thinking so negatively, have some more positiveness in you.

Tundra 793
03-09-2018, 03:13 AM
Y'all might want to set aside 1 hour, and watch this;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN8RjXYjJe4&t

The TLDR is; My working theory was always that Jason Vandenberghe left, and with him went most of this dark & gritty vision of For Honor. Roman and Damien then remained, and has chosen to rely largely on the Reddit communities desires.
If I had enough ****s left to give, I'd start one hell of argument about why the Reddit community receives more attention than the meme-less forum crowd does.

RoosterIlluzion
03-09-2018, 03:51 AM
Looks this WAS going to be For Honor, until I heard from Ubi that many bugs happened so they swapped it. Then they went for the more.... general public of the game, this was nothing about marketing. Stop thinking so negatively, have some more positiveness in you.

I'm not disappointed with this game other than its so full of bugs. It was marketing though, that's why these video are made. Obviously changes were inevitable, and not necessarily for the better, as much as you'd like to believe (I.e. for the general public). I seriously doubt Ubisoft changed the look and gameplay because of bugs.

Ianoneshot
03-09-2018, 04:28 AM
I'm not disappointed with this game other than its so full of bugs. It was marketing though, that's why these video are made. Obviously changes were inevitable, and not necessarily for the better, as much as you'd like to believe (I.e. for the general public). I seriously doubt Ubisoft changed the look and gameplay because of bugs.

Originally the maker of this game didnt work for Ubisoft.

Ianoneshot
03-09-2018, 01:59 PM
Y'all might want to set aside 1 hour, and watch this;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN8RjXYjJe4&t

The TLDR is; My working theory was always that Jason Vandenberghe left, and with him went most of this dark & gritty vision of For Honor. Roman and Damien then remained, and has chosen to rely largely on the Reddit communities desires.
If I had enough ****s left to give, I'd start one hell of argument about why the Reddit community receives more attention than the meme-less forum crowd does.

I do agree it seems that Reddit users get more attention than the ACTUAL FORUMS... I wonder why?

Vakris_One
03-09-2018, 04:00 PM
I do agree it seems that Reddit users get more attention than the ACTUAL FORUMS... I wonder why?
Because Reddit makes more noise and is where gaming news outlets most often compile their sources from thus it is where the money is.

The forums are basically where the more die hard followers of For Honor reside, the folks who followed this game since it was introduced and were drawn in by it's initial promise of grittyness and realistic sword fighting. Reddit is the more mass market gamers who are into memes and consuming games like happy meals before moving on to the next game that generates some noise.

Roman and Damien apparently decided that if the game was to have a longer lifespan they would need to appeal to a more general audience like Reddit rather than a more niche audience like the people that wanted the game from those initial trailers. That's why the For Honor we got is arguably a much more dumbed down version of Jason's original vision and has been focusing more and more towards memes and spammable moves rather than the original concept of the fighting system being more like fencing and less cartoony.