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C0MMANDERC0LS0N
02-26-2018, 10:22 PM
This video highlights features that can be found in the Halo 5 AI editor, features that Far Cry could benefit from adopting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paZChfoTAao

Farcryisdead
02-26-2018, 10:57 PM
Imo the far cry map editor is better.

Fallen-Champ
02-27-2018, 12:25 AM
I have looked at https://www.forgehub.com/ several times and have been blown away by some of the creations considering they don't have a terrain editor.
Also love some of the fun mini games people make, if Far Cry brought in scripting like what Forge has then it would be very interesting, I think the perfect editor would be some Far Cry, Forge and Dying Light.

I think there are some Forge users with a lot of patience to create some of those maps, would be good to see them use the Far Cry Editor when FC5 comes out - the more the merrier.

C0MMANDERC0LS0N
02-27-2018, 08:45 AM
I love the farcry editor, but it is seriously lacking in area's that Forge is strong. We don't have those type of filters/fog/wind/weather/geoemtry/texturing/color options in Farcry that forge has and that is a big pitfall. Farcry mainly just has a cool terrain editor and the ability to perform macro design. The moment you try going down the route of micro design on anything other then a purely aesthetic map, you quickly run out of space. Plus, Forge allows for so much more variety, whereas in Farcry everything ends up looking the same to an extent. I love both editors, but they are both lacking what the other has, and having Forge's filters/fog/wind/weather/geoemtry/texturing/color options in Farcry would be really beneficial. Would add more variety

C0MMANDERC0LS0N
02-27-2018, 08:46 AM
Forge also has a prefab system, meaning I can kitbash objects, group them together, and then save it as a custom object that I can then spawn in from my own personal custom inventory. All the objects are grouped, so they move together as one, rather then a bunch of pieces individually.

emrdesign
02-27-2018, 11:20 AM
The original Far Cry map editor (Cryengine 1) that Ubisoft bought a version of to make their Dunia editor was already better than the map editor we had in FC2, 3 and 4 and probably 5 as well. But I hope they will give us some nice new tools/functionality in the new map editor.

Farcryisdead
02-27-2018, 12:47 PM
Us poor far cry map makers are only able to make stuff that looks like the campaign theme. just take a look at my poor quality fc4 map editor creations below, they look just like something straight from the fc4 campaign (tongue in cheek) how boring compared to forge.
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usmovers_02
02-27-2018, 06:10 PM
Man those SHAME my best maps. Gives me a target quality to strive for in 5.

And yeah, Forge has some features that would be AWESOME in Far Cry. However Forge suffers the same issue FC3 did: The entire thing is made completely useless by a terrible hosting system.

DrShakez
02-27-2018, 11:01 PM
AW, I love seeing these scenes from you. Hoping to see some more full maps from you in FC5.

As for Forge, I would be very happy to see scripting and game mode customization in FC5. I don't think the video was completely unbiased though. I honestly think that Far Cry's editor is much more powerful all around. It does suffer from tacked on multiplayer(or no MP in FC4's case) and many other game related problems, but as AW shows with his scenes above, the editor itself is essentially only limited by the mappers imagination and patience.

Farcryisdead
02-28-2018, 10:38 AM
AW, I love seeing these scenes from you. Hoping to see some more full maps from you in FC5.

As for Forge, I would be very happy to see scripting and game mode customization in FC5. I don't think the video was completely unbiased though. I honestly think that Far Cry's editor is much more powerful all around. It does suffer from tacked on multiplayer(or no MP in FC4's case) and many other game related problems, but as AW shows with his scenes above, the editor itself is essentially only limited by the mappers imagination and patience.

Thanks for the kind words :) i will be back making multiplayer maps in fc5 just like the old days fc2,fc3. cant wait to get started.

x_maxpower204
03-02-2018, 03:02 AM
Those maps looks amazing AW. Look forward to what you do in FC5.

ducain23
03-02-2018, 08:35 AM
Us poor far cry map makers are only able to make stuff that looks like the campaign theme. just take a look at my poor quality fc4 map editor creations below, they look just like something straight from the fc4 campaign (tongue in cheek) how boring compared to forge.
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Aren't all those maps you posted pics of modded? If so, then that is kinda unbalanced. You can't really mod Halo 5's Forge like what you can in Far Cry. I think if you are comparing editors... then you need to compare them without mods since those are community made items added. Anything can be better if the community is able to add what they want into the game (except poor ol multiplayer...seriously sad that wasn't in FC4)

Not trying to start a "which is better" argument because both have their own positives and negatives, but I personally think Halo 5's is better overall. The default FC4 editor does environments better and has AI. Halo 5's editor has primitive blocks with materials swaps, color anything, fog/filters/weather/wind, scripting to make any object do anything, insane custom gametypes (including multiplayer...lol) and more that I don't want to keep listing.

I'm not saying Far Cry's is bad because it does many things better than Halo 5's Forge... but overall (key word is overall)... I don't think an unmodded Far Cry 4 editor matches up to Halo 5's Forge.

Now saying that... I hope Far Cry 5's editor is incredible and has everything Halo 5's Forge has too. Far Cry's ability to make environments is unparalleled and I hope they advanced the editor big time in FC5 :)

Fallen-Champ
03-02-2018, 08:43 AM
Aren't all those maps you posted pics of modded?
None of those maps are modded ducain23

ALS is on Xbox One and Mods for Far Cry 4 can only be done on PC and don't work on XB1

ducain23
03-02-2018, 08:46 AM
None of those maps are modded ducain23

ALS is on Xbox One and Mods for Far Cry 4 can only be done on PC and don't work on XB1

Oh nice! I though I saw somewhere they were modded but I guess not. Those scenes do look amazing and I still stand by that FC has the better environment editor by far... but I still like Halo 5's better because of the detail you can put in structures and scripting. Everyone has their own opinion but I think no matter what... we all want FC5 to blow everything out of the water :)

Fallen-Champ
03-02-2018, 08:57 AM
If there was an editor that combined the best of Forge, Dying Light, Far Cry maybe a little DOOM Snap Map then that would be the Holy Grail. (I can't comment on Crysis as I never uses that one)

I loved the early Halo Games but that last one was damn horrible I didn't finish the campaign and also not playing Halo for a long time and trying to go back to the controls was tough.
Forge looks like a lot of fun but also more novelty with lots of mini games, I will say that some of the better maps on Forge Hub do look superb.

I am sure everyone would love some scripting in Far Cry but my opinion is Snap map went too far on that so if it ever happens I hope its easy enough to use.

Farcryisdead
03-02-2018, 09:51 AM
Oh nice! I though I saw somewhere they were modded but I guess not. Those scenes do look amazing and I still stand by that FC has the better environment editor by far... but I still like Halo 5's better because of the detail you can put in structures and scripting. Everyone has their own opinion but I think no matter what... we all want FC5 to blow everything out of the water :)

Lol i will take the fact that you thought my creations were mods as a compliment :) my imagination can be modded though when i get inspired :)

ducain23
03-02-2018, 09:53 AM
Lol i will take the fact that you thought my creations were mods as a complement :) my imagination can be modded though when i get inspired :)

haha... yea I saw those an I didn't have a clue what pieces you used. They look fantastic! I can't wait to see maps in FC5 (praying the editor is way better) and feature them. Since I'm newish to Far Cry... I'm excited to get into the editor/customs from the beginning :)

Farcryisdead
03-02-2018, 11:19 AM
haha... yea I saw those an I didn't have a clue what pieces you used. They look fantastic! I can't wait to see maps in FC5 (praying the editor is way better) and feature them. Since I'm newish to Far Cry... I'm excited to get into the editor/customs from the beginning :)

An example of the kind of things i use to make custom builds. below is my fc4 land stalker creation.
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Viragoxv535
03-02-2018, 02:23 PM
An example of the kind of things i use to make custom builds. below is my fc4 land stalker creation.
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Hahaha. That is funny and amazing at the same time. ;)

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03-02-2018, 04:19 PM
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These are some awsome builds man!

sly6276
03-02-2018, 04:39 PM
I would love to see what you can do with a bigger budget;)

Farcryisdead
03-02-2018, 05:58 PM
I would love to see what you can do with a bigger budget;)

Thanks :) fingers crossed we get a bigger budget on console this time.