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darkhorizon11
03-29-2006, 08:38 PM
I kinda want to get the community opinion on many of the stories and myths from world war two. I was referring to the authencity of a few specific events...

The big one is the Nazi exploration of Antartica. I know the Germans were the first to thoroughly explore the landmass and and gave it its first name Neuschwabenland? I think it was. During the war they shipped a lot of supplies down to the area and there were supposed secret skirmishes that took place. A convoy left Danzig in March 1945 and was never seen again. I was reading awhile back there was strong evidence to show a Carrier task force was down there in 1946.

Anyways where does the truth end and myth begin. This quickly goes into Nazi UFO experiments and real artifacts that were found in Germany after the war. A couple UFO sightings and contacts reportedly involved Nazis into the 1950s. Anyways I googled this and couldn't find too much beyond the typical junk and was looking for a serious community input and inquiry into this.

darkhorizon11
03-29-2006, 08:38 PM
I kinda want to get the community opinion on many of the stories and myths from world war two. I was referring to the authencity of a few specific events...

The big one is the Nazi exploration of Antartica. I know the Germans were the first to thoroughly explore the landmass and and gave it its first name Neuschwabenland? I think it was. During the war they shipped a lot of supplies down to the area and there were supposed secret skirmishes that took place. A convoy left Danzig in March 1945 and was never seen again. I was reading awhile back there was strong evidence to show a Carrier task force was down there in 1946.

Anyways where does the truth end and myth begin. This quickly goes into Nazi UFO experiments and real artifacts that were found in Germany after the war. A couple UFO sightings and contacts reportedly involved Nazis into the 1950s. Anyways I googled this and couldn't find too much beyond the typical junk and was looking for a serious community input and inquiry into this.

VW-IceFire
03-29-2006, 08:44 PM
Tough to get solid information on this stuff...there's just as many nutters as there are serious historians.

I've never heard of Nazi Germany and Antarctica links. Never ever....

And they never finished their only carrier so its hard to have a carrier group down there. Kind of hard to conceal something like that...

arcadeace
03-29-2006, 09:31 PM
There's been a lot of stuff. I've read of people who believe the Nazis built bases on the Moon and Mars. And they had contact with reptile aliens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Nimits
03-29-2006, 10:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Anyways I googled this and couldn't find too much beyond the typical junk </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you just answered your own question, sir.

Lodovik
03-30-2006, 02:30 AM
Well, firstly the 1930s' German explorations weren't exactly the first to "thoroughly explore the landmass". Here's the wikipedia link for some solid information: Antarctic exploration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Antarctica)

The Antarctic nazi bases fall into that rather weird category of modern folklore (urban myths), ie. the nazi mythology.
Allthough there were probably no more members in the NSDAP who were interested in the occult and supernatural than in any other political/ideological groups in the world, the occult connection tends to get undeserved attention by a lot of crackpot "historians" and even some real academics.

There's a quite a good book dealing with this and other nazi myths, by Joscelyn Godwin,
Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0932813356/103-7134169-6298242?v=glance&n=283155). An academic study but a fun read too.

stansdds
03-30-2006, 04:17 AM
Yes, the Nazi's did have a huge, secret base in Antartica. I was there!!!! See, I was on the trail of the Arc of the Covenant and... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Karl_Von_Crash
03-30-2006, 05:56 AM
Once found a conspiracy site that said the Nazi's had constructed a huge underground base in Antarctica!

Ok, that made me giggle into my beer, so, entertained i read on. They claimed that it was a rocket base and that a series of rockets had been sent to the moon and that ..."To This Day"... there was a Nazi base on the dark side of the moon and that UFO's are Nazi Reccon flights before they come back and take over the world!!!!!

Needless to say, the beer was spilt all over my tee-shirt as i rolled around the floor in hysterics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

marc_hawkins
03-30-2006, 06:17 AM
The whole Nazi/Antarctica thing has been a running joke in our flat. We have a map of the world in our living room with little flags showing where our some of our friends are, and on Antarctica is one stating the location of a nazi saucer base. As paranoid conspiracy theories go, its one of the better ones http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mence
03-30-2006, 06:17 AM
Too many X-files watchers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Karl_Von_Crash
03-30-2006, 10:12 AM
http://www.teamdroid.com/archives/2005/12/23/an-explosion-on-the-moon/

This isnt the site i found before, but it kind of gives you an idea.

Im Convinced!!!!!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Oh, i forgot to mention . The Nazi's had contact with Lizard Men Alien's and that WW2 was actually Galactic War 3???? Its amazing what they forgot to put in the history books.

What did these guys do with their time before the internet came along!!!!!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

vocatx
03-30-2006, 10:47 AM
Just to begin with: there is no "dark side" to the Moon. Any article containing that phrase instantly loses all credibility.

major_setback
03-30-2006, 10:55 AM
I came across these pictures on the internet a while ago. I kept quiet about them because I know how many sceptics there are on this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I can't find the exact page on that site where I found the pictures (the link that I saved won't work). These are the only ones there though, as far as I know:

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic101.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic102.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic104.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic105.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic106.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic107.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic110.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic111.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic112.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic113.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic114.jpg

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-30-2006, 11:16 AM
Now I'm convinced... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

major_setback
03-30-2006, 11:46 AM
BTW there are lots of good quality (and interesting) pictures on that site:

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/

Vuco1
03-30-2006, 12:09 PM
Apart from ficion and UFO shi*, here is some real stuff about nazi on Antarctica: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwabenland.

Karl_Von_Crash
03-30-2006, 05:50 PM
Ok, if u aint noticed, i aint being serious!!!
Im just trying to show how far people will go with a rumour, on a rumour, on top of a "well i once heard"!!!

I believe Madonna was once a Virgin!
I believe Cleopatra got very friendly with all of Ceasars Centurions
I believe.....No, I dont and never will believe Tony Blair!!!!!

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/moonger.html

The last part of this webpage is awesome!!! Makes me want to see "Forbidden Planet" again.

Myths of WW2....
Bader's leg drop, 2 different stories! I like Galland's version!
Va-silly Zits-off...the Russian sniper.....Hero to a country, in a film......all depends on what u read?
The P-51 pilot that met Hartmann, but lived?
Hess's Flight?
How Himmler went from farming chickens to farming Youth and The SS?
How did German pilots get so many kills yet the allies didnt??? Well we all know that one!

Anyway, I gotta go back to moonbase and adjust the sights on my UFO before the Nazi Lizard men ground me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Skoshi Tiger
03-30-2006, 11:25 PM
So whens the wild rush to get out a moon scenery map and modified me163 (pressurised, with thrust vectoring and retro's), for a Luna campaign.

Not sure what the yanks are going to fly though?

minb
03-30-2006, 11:34 PM
They should really make a game out of this ****.
Wouldn't it be fun to play a il2 sturmovik / x-wing type hybrid shooting nazis in spaceships.
This is so crazy it could be fun.

major_setback
03-31-2006, 04:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by minb:
They should really make a game out of this ****.
Wouldn't it be fun to play a il2 sturmovik / x-wing type hybrid shooting nazis in spaceships.
This is so crazy it could be fun. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It will be in the "46" add-on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BadBrain1978
03-31-2006, 05:29 AM
I have some facts for you folks.

I: There was an expedition to the antartica, to a place that was named "Neu Schwabenland". The expedition ship was there only once and was sunk during the war in a harbour in norway.

II: The allies started an expedition to "Neu Schwabenland" after the war. In fact it was a carrier group and they lost 50% of their planes (in recon missions???)

III: The Germans built flying saucers. Some of them were flying... but none of them was able (or meant) to fly into space. It was just a project of inventing a new airframe... you can view some facts here: http://www.reichsflugscheiben.de/
(only in German but nice pictures)

Akronnick
03-31-2006, 12:13 PM
There is no Dark Side of the Moon
Matter of fact, it's all dark, all of it.

Tator_Totts
03-31-2006, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
I came across these pictures on the internet a while ago. I kept quiet about them because I know how many sceptics there are on this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I can't find the exact page on that site where I found the pictures (the link that I saved won't work). These are the only ones there though, as far as I know:

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic101.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic102.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic104.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic105.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic106.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic107.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic110.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic111.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic112.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic113.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic114.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So thats were my hubcaps went. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Unknown_Target
03-31-2006, 07:22 PM
Actually, IIRC, the nazis did indeed build those flying saucers.
But as for UFOs during WWII, you'd probably want to look up "Foo Fighters" - it was a pilot term for strange aireal phenomina during WWII;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

ElAurens
04-01-2006, 07:32 PM
This is the only Swabian UFO I've ever seen...

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/109UFO.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BfHeFwMe
04-02-2006, 01:13 AM
They live among us, Antartic Nazi supermen designed to withstand zero degrees Kelvin. Watching and waiting.

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/94000/94108AGIF_w.jpg

Observing your every move.

http://batman.ugo.com/images/galleries/batman_roguesgallery_filmtv/mrfreeze_180.jpg

When the time is right,

http://worldkids.net/kids/blizzardlive/b&r/9.jpg

There's no stopping them, who do you think is causing global warming? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Hoatee
04-02-2006, 01:34 AM
They weren't called a(i)ryans for nothing.

kearsarge007
04-02-2006, 04:13 PM
So the germans built and flawn the "experimental"
(Flight gyroscopes or flying saucers)

/YES/ or /NO/ or /HOAX/ ? ? ? ? ?

VW-IceFire
04-02-2006, 04:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kearsarge007:
So the germans built and flawn the "experimental"
(Flight gyroscopes or flying saucers)

/YES/ or /NO/ or /HOAX/ ? ? ? ? ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No idea...but Avro experimented with the idea and built the Avrocar. It was basically a flying saurcer. Sort of a failure but ingenous experiment.

http://seekers.100megs6.com/Avrocar/avro5.jpg

Consider that the Vought XF5U was sort of a UFO like concept as well:

http://www.aerofiles.com/vot-xf5u.jpg

AFJ_Locust
04-02-2006, 05:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stansdds:
I was on the trail of the Arc of the Covenant </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Arc of the Covenant is real, Nazi's in space NO!

AFJ_Locust
04-02-2006, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skoshi Tiger:
So whens the wild rush to get out a moon scenery map and modified me163 (pressurised, with thrust vectoring and retro's), for a Luna campaign.

Not sure what the yanks are going to fly though? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We will borrow LA7 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, It already has rocket assist

AFJ_Locust
04-02-2006, 05:07 PM
I could have sworn I seen german markings on the side of that UFO.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/album/watermark.php?file=1630

kearsarge007
04-02-2006, 08:10 PM
O my GOD i cant believe they flew GO-229 after the war http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif...like the fact that the P-80 flies faster than ME-163 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

BfHeFwMe
04-02-2006, 10:41 PM
Recently declassified from the former KGB archieves. This sketch was found in the personal effects of Hitler in the Riechstag bunker.

http://www.rpgclassics.com/fanart/nonrpgs/DarthVader.jpg

NS38th_Aristaus
04-08-2006, 05:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stansdds:
Yes, the Nazi's did have a huge, secret base in Antartica. I was there!!!! See, I was on the trail of the Arc of the Covenant and... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

More on the Archaeology of Indiana Jones. A nice site.
http://www.indygear.com/DWR/index.shtml

Archeology meets politics
http://whyfiles.org/155war_archeo/3.html

skabbe
04-08-2006, 08:10 AM
the germans had a few island way up north. expedition it was, and something to do with radios. there is still junk from the nazis there. i think the islands belonged to norway.

UFOs? germany made many undentified flying objects during the war. but they all had wings, almost.

major_setback
04-08-2006, 09:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by skabbe:
the germans had a few island way up north. expedition it was, and something to do with radios. there is still junk from the nazis there. i think the islands belonged to norway.

UFOs? germany made many undentified flying objects during the war. but they all had wings, almost. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean Svalbard. The Germans were there in the war.

There were rumours of the Germans working on the V7 rocket.

Google Svalbard, Nazi and UFO for info.

elphifou
04-08-2006, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BadBrain1978:
I have some facts for you folks.

I: There was an expedition to the antartica, to a place that was named "Neu Schwabenland". The expedition ship was there only once and was sunk during the war in a harbour in norway.

II: The allies started an expedition to "Neu Schwabenland" after the war. In fact it was a carrier group and they lost 50% of their planes (in recon missions???)

III: The Germans built flying saucers. Some of them were flying... but none of them was able (or meant) to fly into space. It was just a project of inventing a new airframe... you can view some facts here: http://www.reichsflugscheiben.de/
(only in German but nice pictures) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny no one has reacted to this post so far. It sounds like the most serious and reasonable way of viewing the myth/real facts issue. Then again, pics alone are no evidence. A shame it's in German, I could've made myself a better opinion.

djetz
04-08-2006, 01:38 PM
While we're on WW2 facts vs myths, anyone want to tackle the one about Polish cavalry charging German armour? It's one of those things that "everyone knows" that never actually happened, as far as any serious researchers can find.

Seems that some of Herr Goebels propaganda still works. And not surprising, really: in my opinion, Goebels was the real "genius" of the Nazis - his inventions are still widely used (particularly in the ad biz) while nothing else the Nazi leadership came up with is regarded with any respect these days.

(Before anyone misinterprets the above: I said the Nazi leadership and not the German scientists that worked for them. Obviously the scientists and engineers came up with good stuff.)

darkhorizon11
04-09-2006, 01:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by elphifou:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BadBrain1978:
I have some facts for you folks.

I: There was an expedition to the antartica, to a place that was named "Neu Schwabenland". The expedition ship was there only once and was sunk during the war in a harbour in norway.

II: The allies started an expedition to "Neu Schwabenland" after the war. In fact it was a carrier group and they lost 50% of their planes (in recon missions???)

III: The Germans built flying saucers. Some of them were flying... but none of them was able (or meant) to fly into space. It was just a project of inventing a new airframe... you can view some facts here: http://www.reichsflugscheiben.de/
(only in German but nice pictures) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny no one has reacted to this post so far. It sounds like the most serious and reasonable way of viewing the myth/real facts issue. Then again, pics alone are no evidence. A shame it's in German, I could've made myself a better opinion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting when I have more free time I'll copy and paste it into the translator.

major_setback
04-09-2006, 01:54 AM
Read this, it's all true http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


http://www.magonia.demon.co.uk/abwatch/naziufo/naziufo6.html

major_setback
04-09-2006, 01:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Unknown_Target:
Actually, IIRC, the nazis did indeed build those flying saucers.
But as for UFOs during WWII, you'd probably want to look up "Foo Fighters" - it was a pilot term for strange aireal phenomina during WWII;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't there a film about them? "The Foo." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Dean3238
04-09-2006, 08:17 AM
Let me get this straight...

The Nazis established a moonbase in 1942 without letting a soul know they did it then and in the next 60 years.

And US faked a moon landing in 1969 with a cast of tens of thousands, much of it on live TV for the world to see, and nobody has broken the silence since.

It all makes sense now...

Dean

darkhorizon11
04-10-2006, 12:23 AM
Thats what some with too much time on their hands might think...

Personally I just started this thread as a search for information and realistic inquiry into any possible antartic basics the Nazis may have set up prior too and during world war two. There is strong evidence that supports this...

All the stuff on UFOs is mostly mumbo jumbo in my opinion...

TheGozr
04-10-2006, 01:52 AM
Some of the pics of the ufo look painted like the first photoshop attempt for the time. also some shots are taken with mid wide angle lens and the UFO are suppose to be to a certain distance so that say those UFO are fakes and small as a plate. one look like a decor for a theatre play...

Too bad, i just wish to see a real picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-HH-Quazi
04-10-2006, 02:31 AM
A friend of mine has written a movie with the premise being that Hitler was cloned before his death and so where select members of the so-called master race. Including all the scientists and smart minds that seemed to be designing ac and building technology before its' time. They reside in an underground city under the city of Neuermberg and have been since the end of the war. The movie starts out in the year 1956, showing four kids on a US military base in the area that stumble across this underground city by exploring a bunker that was left over from WWII, in which there was a small hole covered by a grate of some kind. They removed the grate and proceeded to explore the tunnel. It ended up leading to the underground city. Once inside the underground city, all were amazed at what they saw. As they explored, they were discovered and all four escaped back through the bunker above. Of course when they bring their fathers back to that bunker after they got off work, the hole was sealed and there was no evidence that it ever existed. Their fathers thought that it was just childrens imagination running rampant, but those kids know what they saw. Then the timeline jumps into the future. All four boys have stayed in touch and each are fininshing up their college educations in different parts of the world. One by one, each starts dying mysterious deaths, but with one thing in common. There is a small symbol of some type carved into the center of their chests. When three out of the four were dead, the main charater of the movie realizes he is next and that their deaths were do to them all seeing the underground city. Even though none of them had no intention of ever sharing what they saw, they were being murdered because of it. He has always felt that he was being watched from that fateful day forward, but chalked it up to paranoia. But he relizes now that it wasn't paranoia. So he sets out to expose what he and his friends had found that day, the very thing that they had died for, the underground city. And in doing so finds out that over the years, Hitler has infiltrated the top levels of government throughout the world with his cronies and is positioning himself to take over the world.

This is just a short back drop of this script. Of course where I left it is where the script really kicks in and gets interesting. You all would really be surprised at how close this script has come to being financed on two occasions. And as crazy as it sounds, it is a good script\story line.

I shared this just in case rumour ever starts that Hitler is alive and well, kept in his prime by cloning, and living in an underground city somewhere in Germany with thoughts of world domination. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

djetz
04-10-2006, 07:28 AM
Your friend might want to check out the book or the film of The Boys From Brazil.

Hitler clones: not a new idea.

os5vd4si2fsijd1
04-10-2006, 12:57 PM
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turnipkiller
04-11-2006, 03:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by djetz:
While we're on WW2 facts vs myths, anyone want to tackle the one about Polish cavalry charging German armour? It's one of those things that "everyone knows" that never actually happened, as far as any serious researchers can find. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually this myth is true, but the German armour wasn't in motion, they were out of their vehicles and resting so to speak. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I just finished a book that covered this event briefly, but I returned it to the library already and I can't remember where this occured specifically or with which units. The book is called "The Blitzkrieg Myth: How Hitler and the Allies...(I can't remember the rest)" if you are interested, it is quite a good book and debunks alot of history that everyone has assumed to be true when a little research proves it isn't.

Catandra
04-11-2006, 11:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Personally I just started this thread as a search for information and realistic inquiry into any possible antartic basics the Nazis may have set up prior too and during world war two. There is strong evidence that supports this...

All the stuff on UFOs is mostly mumbo jumbo in my opinion... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Strong evidence"? What evidence? The World Weekly News? They claimed they discovered a mermaid graveyard last week! Maybe the government should send some of their high tech subs to check that one out too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Seriously, there isn't a shred of evidence to back up any wild claims of a secret nazi base in Antartica, anymore than there is evidence that Elvis is alive and working at Taco Bell in New Jersey.

The closest I saw to "strong evidence" for the whole nazi frozen base **** was on some talk show that had a dude with a bad mullet claiming that lizard men had taken over the nazi base in Antartica (after a pitched battle between the would-be nazi survivalists and the US army).

Yeah right!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

This **** belongs in the same dubious pile as Creationism, alien abduction stories, Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness Monster.

Your second staement was right on the mark but should be applied to your first statement; ITS ALL MUMBO-JUMBO!

darkhorizon11
04-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Well theres sufficient stuff on wikipedia and other sites, if you actually search. I read a lot about this topic over the years, more than just a few rumors to confirm. Also consider that the Germans named the continent (which was its official name) might possibly be SOME evidence... just a little bit...

loppenainen
04-18-2006, 04:40 AM
To put a spanner in the works, never mind the nazis landing on Antarctica, here the one about the Americans being unable to find Africa & Europe.

They heard there was a war and joined late again to land in N Africa during Operation Torch, after the goddam limeys had chased them across most of the continent.

To finally settle the fascist hash and that of their Vichy fellow travellers, the operation went ahead, but at the wrong place. As the brits waited, they realised the yanks must have forgotten to click their heels in Kansas or whatever, and had to put some Canadians in the British landing to save Columbias face.

Now that might sound far fetched, but remember, in Normandy, the US Army couldn't find the right beach, nor accept the specialised armor to deal with obstacles when they got there.

Did the US navy let their amphibious m4d tanks swim too far and therefore sink because they didn't wish to come too close to shore?

Did Patton make swift advances thru the south of France because the majority of Germany's crack armor & mot. divisions were in the north?

Myths legends or ? Discuss

darkhorizon11
04-18-2006, 10:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by loppenainen:
To put a spanner in the works, never mind the nazis landing on Antarctica, here the one about the Americans being unable to find Africa & Europe.

They heard there was a war and joined late again to land in N Africa during Operation Torch, after the goddam limeys had chased them across most of the continent.

To finally settle the fascist hash and that of their Vichy fellow travellers, the operation went ahead, but at the wrong place. As the brits waited, they realised the yanks must have forgotten to click their heels in Kansas or whatever, and had to put some Canadians in the British landing to save Columbias face.

Now that might sound far fetched, but remember, in Normandy, the US Army couldn't find the right beach, nor accept the specialised armor to deal with obstacles when they got there.

Did the US navy let their amphibious m4d tanks swim too far and therefore sink because they didn't wish to come too close to shore?

Did Patton make swift advances thru the south of France because the majority of Germany's crack armor & mot. divisions were in the north?

Myths legends or ? Discuss </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay someone has to layy off the chronic... what point are you making?

loppenainen
04-18-2006, 02:54 PM
Point - there are plenty of myths and legends of wwii that are much more relevant and important than the 200m dish up adolfs ***.

Why not discuss these i.e. did Himmler use a doppelganger and escape retribution - see book SS1.

Just hoping that the topic could turn more towards reality than sci-fi.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-18-2006, 04:01 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/album_pic102.jpg

So my grand-uncle was right:
1936 people in brown and black uniforms landed on earth, caused a war and vanished 1945 without a trace. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

WTE_Galway
04-18-2006, 11:05 PM
I have numerous genuine photos of Nazi UFO.

But cannot post because display of UFO photo with swastika is banned outside soviet union which is more liberal about such things.

but if you could see you would be convinced be sure

darkhorizon11
04-18-2006, 11:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now that might sound far fetched, but remember, in Normandy, the US Army couldn't find the right beach, nor accept the specialised armor to deal with obstacles when they got there.

Did the US navy let their amphibious m4d tanks swim too far and therefore sink because they didn't wish to come too close to shore?

Did Patton make swift advances thru the south of France because the majority of Germany's crack armor & mot. divisions were in the north? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thought I've been busy as of late I've in all the sifting and random reading on the WWII stuff I've never seen a conspiracy for the USN to allow Army tanks to sink (although there is a strong rivalry) or Pattons Army being "allowed" in by the Germans. A link or something to better explain the reasoning behind this would help...

loppenainen
04-19-2006, 05:29 AM
At last a saner approach!

The 'conspiracy' regards the 741st Armored Battalion, Omaha beach landing 6.6.44.
The fact that only 2 of 29 dd[duplex drive] M4's reached any landfall at all, compared to the 743rd AB & similar units on Utah & Commonwealth beaches has led some to speculate that the 741st was released beyond the 4km[6000yds] extreme limit in seas too rough for their seaboard.

I have an url now, as my first experience of the INA of Texas A&M survey was by a tv documentary on UK tv. See what u can find, and if required some of the mystery will be revealed.[annoying aint it].

As to Patton, I will refer to my orbats and get back, as the old lady is still asleep [a better excuse than 'if i tell u the space lizards will dress in black & killu'], but consider the 90 degree turn and advance, admirable tho it was, of 4th Armor etc to relieve Bastogne. Such a move in the face of crack opposition would have been impossible or severely punished.
German industrial complexes were in the north, in the Ruhr, hence the concern to stop Allied crossings into that area.

Thanx 4 the reply and picking up of thread.

Top_Gun_1_0_1
04-20-2006, 11:10 PM
What about the UFOs that the B-17s crew encountered over Ruhr? is it man made?

loppenainen
04-21-2006, 06:42 AM
Foo's etc possibly man made i.e. bad oxygen supply at altitude would make Lola Ferrari seem a. attractive b. a twin zeppelin raid.

Feathered_IV
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
All the information you will ever need is right here:

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/images/P30COVER_lg.jpg

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/

Widely avaiable through Borders for some reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Feathered_IV
04-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Just went and did a google trawl for Foo Fighter pics. All the pages that talk about US aircraft being shadowed by Nazi UFO's show something even more strange in the illustrations. All the Americans are flying Japanese aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://www.robsacc.nl/ottens/foofighter-1.png

http://www.robsacc.nl/ottens/foofighter-2.png

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/foo_fighter.jpg

WB_Outlaw
04-22-2006, 01:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
I have numerous genuine photos of Nazi UFO.

But cannot post because display of UFO photo with swastika is banned outside soviet union which is more liberal about such things.

but if you could see you would be convinced be sure </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The swastika is not banned in the U.S. I'll be happy to host those pics for all to see. Just PM me and I'll respond with information on how to get them to the server.

--Outlaw.

Gandy_Katarin
04-22-2006, 03:23 PM
Foo fighters (http://www.project1947.com/articles/arwwr.htm) Read the ww2 report...

Yog_Shoggoth
04-23-2006, 12:09 AM
Fiction: The I-16 isn't the best fighter of all time.
Fact: It totaly is.

darkhorizon11
04-24-2006, 11:39 AM
Remember sometimes it takes years for the truth on some topics to come out. The truth behind Lincoln's assassination was kept shrouded for years, heck the Russians release the truth about what happened in Hitler's bunker until the 1960s mostly because they weren't totally sure themselves.

Texan...
04-25-2006, 10:23 AM
Creepy.

Z4K
04-25-2006, 08:23 PM
The US was well prepared to defend itself against the spacefaring Nazis:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g232/birdmanzak/misc/xwing.jpg


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Origianally posted by WB_Outlaw
The swastika is not banned in the U.S. I'll be happy to host those pics for all to see. Just PM me and I'll respond with information on how to get them to the server. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No no no. It's not the swastika that's banned, it's "UFOs with swastikas on them". I was fined $40 for that once, but my lizardman friends paid it for me.

WTE_Galway
04-25-2006, 08:33 PM
apparently the reason the SR71 was so advanced for its time is it used UFO technology stolen from the Nazi's