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BaldieJr
12-08-2004, 08:12 PM
My wife knows I need a new stick. Christmas is coming. She's fishing for a make/model, and I've narrowed it down to two:

CH Products USB Yoke (not LE)
X52

I don't need loads of buttons or rudder since I already have those. I only need perfectly smooth control.

I'm leaning towards the yoke, but will listen to good arguments against it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BaldieJr
12-08-2004, 08:12 PM
My wife knows I need a new stick. Christmas is coming. She's fishing for a make/model, and I've narrowed it down to two:

CH Products USB Yoke (not LE)
X52

I don't need loads of buttons or rudder since I already have those. I only need perfectly smooth control.

I'm leaning towards the yoke, but will listen to good arguments against it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Firestorm07
12-08-2004, 08:16 PM
Ok, here's one:

Aesthetics - go with the X52

Mackane1
12-08-2004, 08:26 PM
Find yourself a MS Force-feedback 2...they still can't be beat even though they've been discontinued.

VMF223_Smitty
12-08-2004, 08:29 PM
Rgr that on the MS FF2. I've had mine for 4 years and never had a problem with it, despite constant use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BaldieJr
12-08-2004, 08:32 PM
I'm not interested in FFB really.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
12-08-2004, 08:50 PM
Well its a tough one mate I dont like the look of the latest saitek (twist - ewww) but to be honest unless your planing on flying lightning's a lot then I would go for the stick as aposed to the yoke.

Course if I had a choice and the money I would get the guy that built the 'Rocket' to design me one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
12-08-2004, 09:08 PM
CH Fighterstick USB and Pro Throttle combo... Will go well with your pedals, and be totally bullet proof. I love mine.

One of the Pigs just got an X52 and likes it as well...

Tully__
12-08-2004, 11:08 PM
I someone else is paying, go the yoke. Personally I'd rather the Fightersick USB / Pro Throttle USB combo, but it's your call http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

x__CRASH__x
12-08-2004, 11:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
I'm not interested in FFB really. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither am I. But when you turn off the FF feature in the game, the FFB2 is a Smoooooth Operator. I've used mine for years. I've had to replace the trigger buttons due to wear, but it's a great stick.

M$ was stupid for discontinuing PC products to concentrate on console sales.

fordfan25
12-08-2004, 11:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
My wife knows I need a new stick. Christmas is coming. She's fishing for a make/model, and I've narrowed it down to two:

CH Products USB Yoke (not LE)
X52

I don't need loads of buttons or rudder since I already have those. I only need perfectly smooth control.

I'm leaning towards the yoke, but will listen to good arguments against it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this thread is to good to be true .sooooo your wife thinks you need a new stick hu?.....o man i dont know wear to begane with this one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif........i could say you can barrow mine, but well.... its gottn a bit stiff from over use so thats not any good.

beleave me i have just deleated about three pages worth of post. just cant stand the thoughts of a ban http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Peter_Fitzwell
12-10-2004, 04:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
I'm not interested in FFB really. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither am I. But when you turn off the FF feature in the game, the FFB2 is a Smoooooth Operator. I've used mine for years. I've had to replace the trigger buttons due to wear, but it's a great stick.

M$ was stupid for discontinuing PC products to concentrate on console sales. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. Dumb move for sure. I have 3 new ones stockpiled for future use(and no, I'm never selling any of them) I've always liked the Microsuck sticks, they last alot longer than alot of other sticks and you never have to replace pots and if you hardwire the FF adapter inside the stick, then you never have to worry about the plug wearing out(think quality time with a soldering iron).

Fehler
12-10-2004, 05:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
My wife knows I need a new stick. Christmas is coming. She's fishing for a make/model, and I've narrowed it down to two:

CH Products USB Yoke (not LE)
X52

I don't need loads of buttons or rudder since I already have those. I only need perfectly smooth control.

I'm leaning towards the yoke, but will listen to good arguments against it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this thread is to good to be true .sooooo your wife thinks you need a new stick hu?.....o man i dont know wear to begane with this one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif........i could say you can barrow mine, but well.... its gottn a bit stiff from over use so thats not any good.

beleave me i have just deleated about three pages worth of post. just cant stand the thoughts of a ban http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFL, I was thinking along the same lines...

Geez, he hasnt been married THAT long... He wore his stick out already?

Perhaps some "Reconditioning medication," like Viagra... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

moosehog
12-10-2004, 09:08 AM
My dog ate my MSFF2-pro stick,so i got a logitek 3d-pro not verry happy with it atm.

Was looking at the x-52 but not in stores atm . the x43 looked cheep to me in the way it felt in the store.

Moosehog

goshikisen
12-10-2004, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:

CH Products USB Yoke (not LE)
X52

I'm leaning towards the yoke, but will listen to good arguments against it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Baldie, any particular reason why you're going for the yoke as opposed to a stick? Is it just for smooth movement?

I've convinced my wife that a CH Fighterstick USB is a good Christmas gift even though she is somewhat bewildered at my interest in "the plane game". I'd go with the Fighterstick if you can manage it... coupled with the USB Pro Throttle it's an outstanding combination.

Regards, Goshikisen.

VF51_Flatspin
12-10-2004, 09:47 AM
I have the X45...and WHEN it dies, I'm going back to CH. I still have a CH Flightstick almost 15 years old, doubt my X45 will last even 1/3 of that.

Quality point - go Yoke.

TheGozr
12-10-2004, 11:38 AM
Baldie jr i miss your Cr4p planes server. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I really do.

BuzzU
12-10-2004, 11:44 AM
I have the whole CH setup with the Fighterstick. I was curious about the Yoke, and bought about a year ago. It's ok for civilian planes, and maybe bombers in FB. For dogfighting I thought it was lousy compared to the fighterstick. Another problem is it wasn't very smooth. It's a plastic shaft runing on plastic. Even with lube it still felt sticky. I ended up giving it away to Dex. I'd get the Fighterstick if I were you.

Kootenai
12-10-2004, 11:57 AM
I don't have any hands-on experience with the X52 or CH yoke, but I have used both Saitek and CH products and can say there is no comparison, CH products are built to a much higher quality standard. When I got into this game I bought an X45 to replace the old Logitech stick I'd used for other games. While I liked all the buttons and especially the HOTAS setup, my overall impression of it was that it was cheaply built with low-quality materials. Within a month or two the primary hat switch on the stick quit working. I never did like the feel of the stick so I replaced it with a used CH Combatstick (gameport, not USB) bought for next to nothing on Ebay. I still use the X45 throttle with the CH stick but when it wears out I'll replace it with a CH one I'm sure. Because they could be found for such low prices on Ebay, when I bought the Combatstick I also bought a Fighterstick (gameport) to see which I liked better. The Fighterstick has an 8-way hat on top where the Combatstick only has 4-ways, but it has another hat switch where the Combatstick has a fire button and as some others on these forums have noted the configuration of the Combatstick may be better suited to this game. I know I prefer it and use it instead of the Fighterstick. By the way, the gameport version of the Combatstick works just fine with XP while the gameport Fighterstick requires you to download and run a special little utility to program it if you're running XP. That's a moot point if you're buying a new USB version but of interest to anyone who wants to use an old gameport stick with XP. I've become so attached to the Combatstick that I just bought a second one to have for a spare, just in case this one ever wears out, although it gives no indication of doing so.

Chuck_Older
12-10-2004, 12:40 PM
I must be the only guy who ever bought an X45 and never had trouble with it. Two years running, no problems

Ala11_Kal
12-10-2004, 01:03 PM
X45 here as well. Good stick, reasonable price.

Hendley
12-10-2004, 01:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My wife knows I need a new stick. Christmas is coming. She's fishing for a make/model... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*speechless*

VF51_Flatspin
12-10-2004, 09:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I must be the only guy who ever bought an X45 and never had trouble with it. Two years running, no problems <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My stick's about 3 years old and I can't say there's a whole lot wrong with it, but I do notice a lot more play in the stick and centering is off a bit compared to new ones on the floor at the store. By comparison, my CH Flightstick has no play and centers perfectly -- used from '90 to '01 almost as much as the X45.

Akronnick
12-11-2004, 02:13 AM
X45 isn't perfect but it is a good deal for the money. The X52 looks interesting but it has the same centering mechanism as all Saitek sticks and I'm not crazy about that aspect of the stick.

Philipscdrw
12-11-2004, 07:29 AM
I've been using the CHPro yoke since before Il-2 came out, and it is great. It has enough buttons to control all the important, combat features, like zoom, pitch, flaps, guns, gunsight view toggle, ect. And it can be used with one hand, leaving the other free for the keyboard. And it has more sliders than RayBanJockey...

Philipscdrw
12-11-2004, 07:32 AM
Oh: the only fault it developed in the whole time is that one of the hatswitch directions (left&down) doesn't work.