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neural_dream
11-09-2005, 10:37 AM
Alright, here it goes. I want to get into R/C planes, but i know no-one and I need advice.
I live in London and what i would like to do is pay something like 100 pounds in total and be able every weekend to play with my toy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif in a park near my home. Is that possible? So, let's start with the questions:

1. How do I start? What do i need to know and where do i buy planes?

2. Where can I fly them? A place like gunnersbury park or kew gardens would be acceptable, or is it not allowed there?

3. Those who own R/C planes how often do you fly them and where? How fun is it as a hobby?

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 10:37 AM
Alright, here it goes. I want to get into R/C planes, but i know no-one and I need advice.
I live in London and what i would like to do is pay something like 100 pounds in total and be able every weekend to play with my toy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif in a park near my home. Is that possible? So, let's start with the questions:

1. How do I start? What do i need to know and where do i buy planes?

2. Where can I fly them? A place like gunnersbury park or kew gardens would be acceptable, or is it not allowed there?

3. Those who own R/C planes how often do you fly them and where? How fun is it as a hobby?

crashmaster4000
11-09-2005, 10:51 AM
R/C flying is incredibly fun. I have a Hobbyzone Aerobird Xtreme and it is a blast! Especially with the Sonic Combat Module, which lets you and other similarly equipped aircraft to engage in aerial combat and shoot each other down! Takes about an hour to assemble and comes with everything you need to get flying the day you get it. All of the parts are replaceable if broken or damaged. I usually take mine to a local school soccer/baseball field; it's more than big enough for me and a few other people to fly simultaneously. I'd personally recommend starting off with an electric, as they're quiet, clean, and usually more cost efficient than nitro's. Recently I found a page that features numerous WW2 and Korean war era warbirds, not to mention many other kinds, including trainers...all electric. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/index.htm
Most models have sample video's showing them in flight, giving you an idea of size, scale, and flight characteristics. I'd recommend finding a local club in your area(there has to be one, I live in Rural Michigan and I can think of six nearby) and watch them fly before you buy anything.

Low_Flyer_MkII
11-09-2005, 10:53 AM
http://www.ripmax.com/Index.html

Should be something to tickle your fancy here.

The links here should lead you to a local model flying club and stockist.

Enjoy.

VonKlugermon
11-09-2005, 10:56 AM
Start simple. As crashmaster4000 said, electric might be best, especially if you are going to be flying in a public park - (check local laws) - electrics are quieter and less complicated generally than gas. There are some pretty realistic Almost Ready To Fly (ARF for short) aircraft out there, Hobby Lobby has a nice selection. Check out local/national/international R/C flying community (AMA here in the states). Though I sold my R/C aircraft some time ago, it was definitely a blast! Once you get the basics down, move up to multi-channel radio feature filled aircraft (retract gear, flaps, bomb/parachute drops, etc.) Also, for instruction, see if you can find someone local to help you out, they do make radios that inter-connect so you can be the student and fly with an instructor right there with you.

Have fun!

Willy

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 11:06 AM
You can do all that with an R/C? Whow. Now I am impressed.

Dogfighting, chutes, bombing, flight instructor, ...?

I'll definitely start looking

Now I need someone who flies R/C in London to help with more specific stuff.

Pirschjaeger
11-09-2005, 11:06 AM
CrashMaster, I'm not sure if I should be asking you for advise due to your name. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I used to build R/c models from scratch. I never flew them since I had no experience flying an R/c model and didn't want to instantly lose all my work.

Maybe in the new year I will start building a large scale model. I want to fly these but still have no experience. Do you think it would be helpful and useful to train on the smaller and cheaper electric kits before attempting something with a 2m wingspan?

Fritz

luftluuver
11-09-2005, 11:16 AM
http://www.bmfa.org/

>> http://www.bmfa.org/clubs/clist.php

VonKlugermon
11-09-2005, 11:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
You can do all that with an R/C? Whow. Now I am impressed.

Dogfighting, chutes, bombing, flight instructor, ...?

I'll definitely start looking

Now I need someone who flies R/C in London to help with more specific stuff. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's pretty amazing what they can do these days! My old Futaba radio could inter-connect with another radio and you could then have dual-control for teaching as I stated above. Check out some of the stuff that people have built and flown, there was a great video floating around this forum of a giant scale B-52 with eight scale Wren turbines, somebody's sure to post a link to that one! My first aircraft was a gas powered "Kadet", looked similar to a Cessna-182.

Willy

crashmaster4000
11-09-2005, 11:17 AM
Hello Pirschjaeger,

Contrary to my name, I've only managed to crash once...30mph straight into an Oak tree on my first attempt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I would definately go with an electric RTF to get acquainted with r/c flight. The one I have features two different flight modes; Sport and Pro. In sport mode it's very docile, so much to the point where I can hand-launch it with the receiver on the ground! it will just want to gently climb away. On pro mode, all sorts of aerobatics and ACM are possible. My whole kit cost me a little over two hundred, and even the oak tree encounter only set me back a small ammount of silicone putty to fix the nosecone. Electric RTF/ARF's are definately the best way to start.

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 11:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
http://www.bmfa.org/

&gt;&gt; http://www.bmfa.org/clubs/clist.php </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you very much for the link. Say I wouldn't like to go to a club for the time being, can i just buy a rather small and simple R/C 172 or a Piper and go to Kew Gardens or Gunnersbury Park, or Hyde Park and fly it?

Pirschjaeger
11-09-2005, 11:22 AM
Thx C-Master, I'll start with the electric until the large scale is built. Then I'll pass the electric to my stepson and have a flying partner. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

VonKlugermon
11-09-2005, 11:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
http://www.bmfa.org/

&gt;&gt; http://www.bmfa.org/clubs/clist.php </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you very much for the link. Say I wouldn't like to go to a club for the time being, can i just buy a rather small and simple R/C 172 or a Piper and go to Kew Gardens or Gunnersbury Park, or Hyde Park and fly it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can't say this enough: Check local laws! Crashing into a tree is one thing, crashing into a PERSON is something else!

Willy

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 11:25 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif alrighty

VonKlugermon
11-09-2005, 11:30 AM
Oh, here's that link to the B-52 model and subsequent crash:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robert.ashley/teambananaracing/gallery.htm

Willy

luftluuver
11-09-2005, 11:32 AM
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Can't say this enough: Check local laws! Crashing into a tree is one thing, crashing into a PERSON is something else!</span>

Had to repeat this.

Join a club. They have instructors that will help you learn to fly. You will have insurance coverage.

Pirschjaeger
11-09-2005, 11:37 AM
I would imagine in Germany it would be mandatory to belong to a club. I'll have to check into that.

Fritz

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 11:43 AM
You convinced me. I'll join one.

It's just that you'll never find non-Brits in such clubs and it will be awkward http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. Anyway, i'll fit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif; Brits usually like me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

Pirschjaeger
11-09-2005, 11:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
You convinced me. I'll join one.

It's just that you'll never find non-Brits in such clubs and it will be awkward http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. Anyway, i'll fit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif; Brits usually like me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where are you from N-Dream?

BTW, did you watch that video of the B52 crash? The owner was crazy to try flying in that wind. A definite heart-break though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Fritz

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Where are you from N-Dream?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I was born near the palace of King Minos and the Minotaur's labyrinth. Then I moved to where Achilles ruled, and finally bought a house looking at the Acropolis from the one side and the Lycabyttus from the other, before I decided to leave all that at least for a while and go see how much I can drink with those bloody Brits everyday same time.

Owlsphone
11-09-2005, 12:32 PM
I'm not quite sure about across the pond, but here in the states I was looking into R/C flying myself and found out that my local club requires a million dollar life insurance policy for each pilot so that they can be covered in case of an accident.

Like what was said before, crashing a plane into a tree is one thing, but another person is an entirely other matter. At least with a flying club you will be insured. Just going to a park and flying on your own would be a risk I wouldn't be willing to take.

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 12:35 PM
Alright. You've all convinced me. I think I'll go that club in Richmond. Quite close to where I live.

edit: hm, maybe not. They only have FF.

iron_guantlet
11-09-2005, 01:10 PM
if you want to fly gas powerd R/C i suggest you start out with a .40 size A-R-F(almost ready to fly) trainer. this is a good size becuase the speed will be moderate but not too fast and has good size controll surfaces so can recover it if you run into trouble since you are just learning. after you feel you can handel something a little hotter you could move on to a .40 or .60 size ugly stick...these things are cheap to buy and build and are screaming demons and very responsive to inputs,after you master this than you can move onto the bigger scale models like the 120 size, these will seem easier to fly after dealing with a ugly stick....these are some tips i gave to new flyers at my club when i was into R/C and it worked pretty good.
you don't want to make the mistake of going full bore into this and buying and building a kool scale warbird only to find out it is to hot to handel,get into trouble and destroy it in a crash....start out slow and work you way up

Low_Flyer_MkII
11-09-2005, 03:24 PM
Now I'm not suggesting you should start with this baby, but thought you might like to see what you could build up to.

I never could - spent months building a very large Corsair, and bloody good it looked too, though I say it myself, only to find I couldn't stand the thought of writing it off on it's maiden flight.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/f14model.html

Warning: Naff soundtrack!

davstub
11-09-2005, 03:31 PM
Yep, I echo the other advice about finding a local group.
The chances of going it alone with RC power are 10 percent at best.
RC is more difficult than sims or full size.
The BMFA site lists local clubs and categorises power/ FF/ electric/ Heli etc
Walk then run - the rewards are great!

Ranger_80
11-09-2005, 03:36 PM
Joining a club sounds scarier than it actually is. Go have a look at a local one first, they will be friendly and willing to help. Most clubs will have an instructor or two who can really help you start off. The club usually has a few planes of their own for you to try out before you think about spending your cash.

My old man just took up this hobby, claming it is his mid-life crisis, but he tried the hard way of trying to learn (unsuccessfully) by himself. By the end of the day we wound up at a club, with some help was properly flying in minutes. Best and only way to go, there is a wealth of knowledge at a club - especially from any of the retired old boys.

Good luck & have fun.

pterodactyl77
11-09-2005, 05:03 PM
check out this R/C aircraft simulator to practice your flying skills before doing the real thing!

http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html

you can hook up your radio controller to the computer and practice landings, takeoffs and maneuvers...

cheers!

PBNA-Boosher
11-09-2005, 06:35 PM
If you don't want to use gas planes, I've had great success with the T-Hawk model here at Ready to Fly Fun.com (http://www.readytoflyfun.com)

The T-Hawk only has rudder and elevators, but it still does fairly magnificent aerobatics without the ailerons. It can keep flying for about 15 minutes on its battery, which is nice. You can order extra batteries so when one runs low you can use the 3rd or 4th. (it comes with 2)

Their electric models also make it so you don't have to join a flying club. Any open space that's not heavily populated is a great place to fly their aircraft.

neural_dream
11-09-2005, 06:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pterodactyl77:
check out this R/C aircraft simulator to practice your flying skills before doing the real thing!

http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html

you can hook up your radio controller to the computer and practice landings, takeoffs and maneuvers...

cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was brilliant. I used my P880 dual analog joypad and it was a blast. Landing is so cool.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Their electric models also make it so you don't have to join a flying club. Any open space that's not heavily populated is a great place to fly their aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gifTempting, but they've convinced me I must join a club at least for the beginning.

as343
11-10-2005, 03:16 AM
How would dogfigthing work? You buy the module thingy, but how would you shoot?

PBNA-Boosher
11-10-2005, 06:48 AM
From what someone has explained to me, dogfighting with RC planes entails attaching a ribbon to it and trying to cut off the other person's ribbon.

It works something like fighter kites. But I've never seen it.

Jagdgeschwader2
11-10-2005, 07:12 AM
I thought about building a plane but my neighbor who is obsessed with tanks talked me into building one. He has been invading my yard with his Tamiya 1/16 Sherman so I have to defend the Reich err.. ah... my lawn! Behold the Tiger 1! I shall destroy his puny Sherman with one mighty 88mm blast! She should weigh in at about 20lbs when completed. I just got it today and have been looking at upgrades for it. I think this is better for me since I work all the time. I can just go out on my lawn and challenge my neighbor to a duel. Should be great fun!


Cool stuff you can get for the tanks.
http://www.backyardarmor.com/products.htm

Cool tank club.
http://www.fragarmor.org/Home.htm



My 1/16 Tiger 1 in the box. I'm going to photograph each step of the build so I may post some photos.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tiger1.jpg


http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 07:29 AM
Jagdgeschwader,

Where do you live? I've often seen your posts regarding models and think you'd be interesting to chat with.

Do you use MSN?

Fritz

Jagdgeschwader2
11-10-2005, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Jagdgeschwader,

Where do you live? I've often seen your posts regarding models and think you'd be interesting to chat with.

Do you use MSN?


Fritz </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm in Dallas,Texas. I never tried out those chat things since I'm usually working unfortunately. I run the mainframe on the graveyard shift for my companies accounting department. Good money but lousy hours. I just got home a few minutes ago and here I am on a computer again. Go figure. I just got back into model building recently. I stocked up on quite a few kits thanks to e-Bay. Seems like it's the one hobby I will never outgrow. I think anyone who's into aircraft or WWII shares this affliction. Have you finished that 109 yet?

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 08:26 AM
Actually, I've run out of time. I just today offered all my kits to a buddy in TianJing, two hours from Beijing.

I'm permanantly moving to Germany in about a month and don't want to go through the hassles of sending models to Europe. I find my joy in building them but when they're finished they do nothing more than collect dust.

I also started a new company and have to start a few more before I can relax a little. I'm expecting my daughter in early March so I must care for her mom. After the 6 months of pregnancy it becomes hard on a woman.

In the spring I intend to get back into modelling but the way I used to. Scratch building. That's where you'll find the real joy of modelling. You have to do months of research, then formulate a construction design, draft the blueprints, find the materials, and start building. I love large scale operational models. My biggest thusfar was a R/C River-Class frigate, HMCS New Glasgow, 4m in length.

I'm debating on a 3.7m r/c u-boat capable of static diving, something I've never seen a u-boat model do. I've designed a compression system and tested a prototype contraption. It worked perfectly.

If not the u-boat, then a r/c 109E3 with about a 2.5 m wingspan, completely operational, with exception to the guns. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The final decision will depend on my neighbors.

Either one of these models will have video cam system installed. Why not?

Trust me, there is nothing more enjoyable or detailed than a scratch built model. I'll never buy a kit again.

Fritz

neural_dream
11-10-2005, 08:33 AM
the uboat and you know it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 08:38 AM
BTW, a couple months ago I built a HO layout using an antique M√¬§rklin AC train set for my step son. I got a great deal on the set(100Euro, mint condition). When I wanted to build the mountains I decided to used layers of styrofoam for the core. Once they were glued together I used a simple rasp to shape the mountain. I was totally amazed at how a simple wood rasp could not only easily contour the material but also how smooth the surface was.

It occurred to me that this was my magic material for making a plug for a mold. Using inverted ribs and marking the foam carefully, I would be able to easily and accurately get the shape of a ship's hull or the fuselage of an airplane. Then cover it with fiberglass. Once the glass is dry I'd simply split the hull and dig the styrofoam out.

Once the glass was free of the styrofoam I could then reunite both sides of the hull or fuselage with a full keel adding a lot of strength to the fininshed product.

I could even go further and produce moulds in the same manner to create the basic product and sell partial kits through local hobby stores. I've seen these before and they are quite expensive.

Why buy a little plastic kit and miss out on all the fun. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Fritz

crashmaster4000
11-10-2005, 08:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by as343:
How would dogfigthing work? You buy the module thingy, but how would you shoot? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The controllers made for the a/c that use these addons also come equipped with a fourth "function" channel, that is only used to engage/disengage whatever it is that is attached. Scoring a Hit with the sonic combat module causes the afflicted aircraft to lose engine power for twenty seconds. After this elapses, power is restored.

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 08:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
the uboat and you know it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wanted to do this for years but you won't believe what stopped me; Torpedos. How can you justify building a uboat capable of static diving and not have operational torpedos(save the explosives)?

The problem of making 30cm torpedos is how to make them go straight. You need two propellers that turn in opposite directions on the same shaft, same principle as a helicopter. Remove the rear blade and see what happens.(not recommended) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Last year, while installing a machine in Friedrichshafen the answer came to me. Boring jobs can be so inspiring. A simple 5 gear system. I contacted a company in Japan that makes nylon gears and they said according to my drawings they could make them for me. So, now I have solved the torpedo issue.

Next step would be the drawings, my favorite step. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 08:51 AM
Ooooops, sorry N-Dream, just realized I've hijacked your thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'll get my coat.

Fritz

neural_dream
11-10-2005, 08:53 AM
That's fine. I've learned all i needed. The nice projects you describe give additional inspiration http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 08:57 AM
IIRC, you are in London right? In the spring I must go to either England or Spain to register a company(tax breaks be there). We'll keep in touch and if possible I'd like to buy you a beer. Danjama can sniff the empties. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

neural_dream
11-10-2005, 08:59 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52_Manteo
11-10-2005, 09:11 PM
I started flying RCs by building a glider with a two meter wingspan, it was called a Carl Goldberg Gentle Lady. The kit comes as a two channel( rudder and elevator only) but I built the wing with Dihedral, instead of polyhedral, and with alerons (as the kit is designed.) But anyway,I found a nice open hill- top and tossed it into the wind and after some repairs and about a hundred hand launches off the hill I was able to launch it hundreds of feet into the air with an elastic launcher called a high-start. I almost lost that glider once because it was so high catching thermals. A two-meter sailplane nearly out of site! Soaring like a hawk, and actually somtimes doing just that. I ended up taking lessons in full scale gliders and managed to gather some solo time. It was the model that hooked me and got me soaring in the real thing and it is fun. I also have a Piper Cub with a 90" wing and have been through a few trainer gas powered planes, but I like the way I learned; it was quiet and safe and at my own pace with the gliders. And note: I have noticed that as you wreck a plane, that although kits are costly and time consuming to put together; the expensive electronics are recoverable and are re-used in the next plane,so crashing is not as painful as people seem to think. And, if you become a true RC geek, then you will love building them too.

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 09:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52_Manteo:
And note: I have noticed that as you wreck a plane, that although kits are costly and time consuming to put together; the expensive electronics are recoverable and are re-used in the next plane,so crashing is not as painful as people seem to think. And, if you become a true RC geek, then you will love building them too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Say that to a scratch builder. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

TBO, I have never been concerned about the electronics or even the engine. It's the time and effort you invest into building from scratch. That has emotional value. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But I can imagine the first time you crashed your glider, although it was a kit, your heart must have skipped a beat.

Very nice post. Thx http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

Tully__
11-10-2005, 10:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Can't say this enough: Check local laws! Crashing into a tree is one thing, crashing into a PERSON is something else!</span>

Had to repeat this.

Join a club. They have instructors that will help you learn to fly. You will have insurance coverage. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Many clubs will allow you to "guest fly" for a few visits, look into that also.

JG52_Manteo
11-10-2005, 10:18 PM
Oh Ya it's crushing to see your plane crash, I didnt mean to say it wasn't. I scratch built a wing for a glider kit once. I bought the sheet balsa, and everything and desingned and built the wing. It was a one of a kind, it sort of resembled the wing of a C130, but more stretched out, no flaps or spoilers, just alerons, it was 80". everything was cut from scratch. Flew great, no problem, I loved it. Then I put it on a high shelf for the winter and the next spring when I tried to launch it the wing collapsed from stress and the plane ate the ground. I figure the spruce main spar dried-out over the winter and became brittle. But that was painful anyway, and I have had my share of gas powered wipe outs. Like telephone lines and once, after fueling up I took off without extending my antena. Deserved the dummy trophy for the day on that one.

Pirschjaeger
11-10-2005, 11:00 PM
Be thankful for the telephone lines. At least in the end to had something to salvage rather than just the memory of your plane flying off into the sunset. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

How far could it fly on a full tank?

Fritz

o0kami
11-10-2005, 11:20 PM
I got a few RCM plans that siting around now (no time to built them)

If you are a Focke wulf fan i would highly recommend you get the RCM plan PLAN pl-1242 (Go to the RCM site to search for it ) For the Focke Wulf Ta 152 H. It a Giant Scale, also there is a few good Fw-190 plans A8 to D9

I also went and brought a few plans from PLANS Don Smith they got a nice Lockheed Constellation that got a Wingspan of 134" and lenght of 103.5" in total of 8 sheets to built. it a 1/11 sacle connie. Also got the Mosquito plan it a little bigger since it 1/6 scale. Anyways take alook at this guys plans they are really good.

JG52_Manteo
11-10-2005, 11:26 PM
What Fritz? My Cub? Well, anyway I don't fly RCs much latley, but my gas-powered ones I only flew for about 10-15 minutes at a time.
How far could it fly on a full tank?

Fritz[/QUOTE]

JG52_Manteo
11-10-2005, 11:41 PM
Oh oh oh.. I get it now. The sunset. No Fritz, the plane did-not go off into the sunset when I forgot to extend my antenna. It only went about 100 meters before my radio's signal could not reach it anymore, then it just rolled into the ground. But I DID have that plane flying the very-next day out of determintion, and I videoed the repair. It was a Wright-Flyer 60T I think.

TX-EcoDragon
11-11-2005, 03:13 AM
Also, for loads of info, like finding your local club, deciding on an aircraft, radio, engine etc. join:

http://www.rcgroups.com

and http://www.rcuniverse.com/

luftluuver
11-11-2005, 04:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Many clubs will allow you to "guest fly" for a few visits, look into that also.[/QUOTE]

Yes and if you had looked at the link I posted on the 1st pg, http://www.bmfa.org/ , that info is stated.

First Time Inexperienced Flyer

Club liability insurance can be extended to cover first time visitors to your Club who have no previous experience of model flying but are seeking to try out model flying prior to joining your Club. However, in this case cover will only be in place when the flights are being personally supervised by a nominated Club member approved by the Club Committee. No charge will be made for this additional cover; however, cover will only be in place for a maximum of 3 days for any one first time flyer. After this initial 3 day period the first time flyer must arrange his/her own third party public liability insurance cover, by joining the BMFA, prior to undertaking any further flying activity at your Club site.

yorkshirebomber
11-11-2005, 04:43 PM
Try this link for your RC info

http://www.rcmodelflyers.co.uk/4um

We even have a flight sim section http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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