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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 02:37 PM
Could someone please clear up for me which models can share each others skins?

As far as I'm aware, all of the Ju-87s can share their skins, all Pe-2s, all P-39s, all Hurricanes.. but does anyone know for example which DB-3s, which Bf-109s, which FW-190s, which Laggs, etc, can share skin files between each other?

It'd be good to have this in the IL2Skins FAQ for one.


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09-18-2003, 02:37 PM
Could someone please clear up for me which models can share each others skins?

As far as I'm aware, all of the Ju-87s can share their skins, all Pe-2s, all P-39s, all Hurricanes.. but does anyone know for example which DB-3s, which Bf-109s, which FW-190s, which Laggs, etc, can share skin files between each other?

It'd be good to have this in the IL2Skins FAQ for one.


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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 04:35 PM
all P-47 series can have eachother's skins, the same goes for the Il-2 series. altough with the latter, there can be some problems.

Anyways, it is a trial and error proces.


unfortunatly, it is not possible to see if the skins work with the aircraft, without starting FB.



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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 04:42 PM
Some more help.

All the 109's can share skins, as well as the 190's, except for the A9 and the D9's. The 2 D9's can share skins.

The MiG-3's except for the MiG-3U can share skins.

I believe the P-40's can share skins.

The only problem with sharing skins is that the panel lines won't be completely correct, if you are picky about such things.

Also, with the Ju-87... some skins made specifically for the B2 model won't quite match with the D2 or G, so you may end up with a funky colored prop and in the case of the G.. wing cannons.

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09-18-2003, 05:12 PM
The Hurricane Field Mod has a different gun arrangements so skins for other variants aren't wholly compatible (and vice versa)

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adlabs6
09-18-2003, 08:07 PM
Hi guys,

If anyone with positive info on this topic could please post here with info, I'd appreciate it greatly. Once we get a good collection of compatiblility I'll compile all the data, and add it into the il2skins FAQ thread.

Thanks again!

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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys.

I've got almost 2gb of uncompressed skins sitting on my drive at the moment and man it's a chore to sort through them. Has to have been some better way to handle naming/sorting these than the seperate folders/psuedo compatable models Maddox went with.

Blergh.


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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 09:16 PM
LordOliver wrote:
- Some more help.
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- All the 109's can share skins, as well as the 190's,
- except for the A9 and the D9's. The 2 D9's can share
- skins.
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Not fully, try puttin a BF-109E skin on a BF-109G14 or, vice versa.


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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 09:25 PM
The P39s are grossly interchangeable, but have some problems in the details.

The N1 has ports on the underside of the wings for .30 casings, which obviously shouldn't be there on the Q1 model. The pods on the Q1 will mostly cover up the skin graphic for the ports, but they're still visible if you look closely.

The Q10 uses a 4 bladed prop, so the spinner graphic for the N1/Q1 is incorrect, but again, that's a minor thing.

Aside from that, they'll work pretty much perfectly. It'd be very easy to just build a .psd template and have 3 different detail layers to account for the specific model while keeping the same paint and weathering effects.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 04:02 PM
Thanks for the help so far guys :>

Seems the thread has died in the arse which is a shame because I'd far rather find this stuff out than argue about Tom Cruise ;>

To get the ball rolling a litttle faster, perhaps:

Ar196-a3: one model/skin

B-239: one model/skin

Bf109E4: }
Bf109E4-b: }
Bf109E7: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues
Bf109E7-z: }

Bf109f2: }
Bf109f4: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

Bf109g2: } ???
Bf109g6: }
Bf109g6-l: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues
Bf109g6/as: }
Bf109g14: } ???

Bf109g10: one model/skin ???

Bf109k4: one model/skin ???

Bf110c4: }
Bf110c4-b: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

Bf110g2: ??? compatable with above ???

B1: one model/skin

Blenheim I: }
Blenheim IV: } compatable???

Il-4: }
Db-3b: }
Db-3f: }
Db-3m: }
Db-3t: } ??? compatable, nose glass transparency issues ???

Fi-156: one model/skin

Fw-189a2: one model/skin

Fw-190a4: }
Fw-190a5: }
Fw-190a8: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues
Fw-190f8: } ??? compatable with above ???

Fw-190a9: one model/skin

Fw-190d9: }
Fw-190d9l: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

G-11: one model/skin

G-50: one model/skin

He-111h2: }
He-111h6: } ??? compatable with above ???

He-111z: one model/skin

He-162a2: one model/skin

Hs-129b2: }
Hs-129b3wa: } compatable with above, minor gun port issues

Hurri I: }
Hurri IIb: }
Hurri IIc: }
Hurri IIbmod:} compatable, gun exhaust placement issues between skins

I-16type18: }
I-16type24: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

I-153M62: }
I-153P: } compatable, gun exhaust issues between skins

IAR-80: }
IAR-81a: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues ???

Il21940early:}
Il21940late: }
Il21941early:}
Il21941late: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues ???

Il2-M3: }
Il2-M-early: }
Il2-M-late: }
Il2-3: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues ???
Il2-I: } compatable, but no Shkas Light MGs, possible gun exhaust issues
Il2-T: } compatable, but no NS-23 Cannon, possible gun exhaust issues

Ju52-3mg4e: }
Ju52-3mg5e: } possibly compatable with above except for landing gear ???

Ju87-B2: }
Ju87-D3: } compatable with above, possible spinner issues
Ju87-G1: } compatable with both of the above, possible spinner and underwing gun issues

Ju88a4: one model/skin

La-5: }
La-5f: }
La-5fn: } compatable, no known gun port/gun exhaust issues?

La-7: }
La-73xB20: } compatable with above, gun exhaust issues due to additional 20mm nose cannon

Lagg3-IT: }
Lagg3s4: }
Lagg3s66: } all 3 compatable, except for gun exhaust issues due to differing armament between all 3 models, no gun port issues

Li-2: one model/skin

MBR-2AM34: one model/skin

Mc-202: one model/skin

Me210ca1: }
Me210ca1ZSTR:} compatable, possible gun port/gun exhaust issues

Me262a1: }
Me262a2: } compatable, possible gun port/gun exhaust issues, possible drop point skin issues

Me321: one skin/model ???

Me323: one skin/model ???

Mig3: }
Mig3ud: }
Mig3+ShVAK: }
Mig3+UB: }
Mig3+AM38: } compatable, possible gun port/gun exhaust issues between Mig3/Mig3ud skins and others due to capability for underwing gunpod armament

Mig3U: one skin/model ?

Ms-406: }
Ms-410: }
Ms-Morko: } ??? compatable, no known gun port/gun exhaust issues ???

P39n1: }
P39q1: }
P39q10: } compatable, possible gun port/gun exhaust issues between all models due to differing armament

P40e: }
P40e-m105: }
P40m: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

P47d10: }
P47d22: }
P47d27: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

P51d: one model/skin

P11-c: one model/skin

PBN1: one model/skin

Pe2s1: }
Pe2s110: }
Pe2s359: }
Pe2s84: } compatable, no gun port/gun exhaust issues ???
Pe3s1: } compatable, possible gun port / nose transparency issues with Pe2 series
Pe3bis: } compatable, possible gun port / nose transparency issues with Pe2 series and Pe3s1.

Pe8: one model/skin

R-10: one model/skin

Sb2m100a: }
Sb2m103: } compatable with above?

Su2: one model/skin

Tb3: one model/skin

Tu2s: one model/skin

U2vs: one model/skin

Yak1: } ???
Yak1b: } ???
Yak3: } ???
Yak7b: } ???
Yak9: } ???

Yak9d: }
Yak9u: } compatable with above, minor gun port/gun exhaust issues between models

Yak9k: }
Yak9t: } compatable with above, no gun port/gun exhaust issues

Ok, so, any help filling in the blanks or anything with a question mark near it would be good :>


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adlabs6
09-19-2003, 06:45 PM
Thanks for that list. I'll post it at il2skins and we can update it over time.

BTW, I've skinned the He-111 H2 and H6, and they are the same except for the torpedo mounts. In fact, even the Zwilling uses the standard He-111 skin with an additional panel added to fill in the new wing segments.

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09-20-2003, 04:06 AM
Giving this a bump in case anyone has anything to share about which skins can be used on which models.

Does anyone know if there's an effective way to point IL2 to the same skins directory for various models? IE rather than duplicate 300mb of skins between models individual directories, is there a way to share a directory for mutually compatable skins?


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adlabs6
09-20-2003, 04:14 AM
There's not a way to designate another folder in FB.

Also, I've compiled my first draft Compatibility Chart, and am going over it now. Hopefully I'll have something up at il2skins in the coming days.

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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 04:18 AM
Open the "Void" skins and look to see if they are vertical, or lateral.

But if it makes any differant I put a Citabria skin on my Thunderbolt and looked like a Pepermint candy.

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