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Chuck_Older
07-25-2004, 07:52 AM
Oleg and Co.-

Please make all future patches and updates change the current cockpit layout so that on the left side of the screen, there is no cockpit, and on the right, full cockpit. Bisect the screen so that one half is no cockpit and the other has the 'pit.

It won't change anything in the way of whining, but it will be a refreshing thing to see all the "left side/right side" arguments replace the "pit/no pit" ones http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Chuck_Older
07-25-2004, 07:52 AM
Oleg and Co.-

Please make all future patches and updates change the current cockpit layout so that on the left side of the screen, there is no cockpit, and on the right, full cockpit. Bisect the screen so that one half is no cockpit and the other has the 'pit.

It won't change anything in the way of whining, but it will be a refreshing thing to see all the "left side/right side" arguments replace the "pit/no pit" ones http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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609IAP_Recon
07-25-2004, 08:01 AM
I don't see much controversy on this subject - mostly those that want to fly arcade fly no cockpit, those that want simulation fly cockpit.

There is much more controversy on icons, padlock, etc... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Yellonet
07-25-2004, 08:03 AM
As an "Older" person you should be able to come up with something much more clever http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif


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Farkitt_
07-25-2004, 08:14 AM
Nah, Just Shoot all the Non Pit types


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TgD Thunderbolt56
07-25-2004, 08:54 AM
Kind of like a radio station you don't want to listen to. If you don't like it change it...period.

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TX-Bomblast
07-25-2004, 09:05 AM
Closed cockpit would be wonderful if only the viewfrom the LW planes would be similar to the allied planes. Take the hurricane for example, one can sit way back and have a wonderful full screen look. But, all of the LW planes seem to have the pilot sitting with his face smashed up against the instrument panel. This is not realistic in any way, I have flown plenty of hours in a Piper Cherokee, and I never flew with my face up against the I.P.
Oleg needs to change the views in the LW planes, until then, it will always be an arcade game.

TX-Bomblast
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Deathreaper666
07-25-2004, 11:00 AM
Quite refreshing to see that things have not changed around here. Argue away.

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Chuck_Older
07-25-2004, 11:23 AM
Personally, I think that the increase in cylinder pressure gained from using a small lift and duration camshaft is likely to cause problems with detonation in my engine once I swap to the smaller chamber aluminum heads. Since I am using larger chamber heads now (1973 heads from a pollution controlled engine- they still have the A.I.R. passages in them, not good for performance), my compression should go up from 10:1 to around 10.3:1 which will be hard to live with, since available octane gasoline probably won't be good enough.

The aluminum heads will releive the issue somewhat, and I can use thicker head gaskets to bring the compression back down to around 10:1. This should present no problem with premium fuel.

To fight detonation and high cylinder pressures even further, I can go with a higher lift, longer duration cam, albeit with a different center line than my stock cam. Surprisingly, with the Buick 455, you can use quite a high lift cam with stock dished pistons that have no valve releifs. Since the piston is 2.94" down in the bore at the time the intake valve is fully opened on a block that hasn't been decked (mine was still nice and true when I had the machinist check it out), I can use over .5" lift very easily with no fear of slapping a piston with a valve. Also, this larger cam will help fight detonation by releiving some of the cylinder pressures that a smaller cam would generate.

The question of cam selection has been very tough. I need a cam that will still give me a smooth stock type idle. Some small lope is OK, but this car is a driver and I sit in traffic with it, so race cams are out of the question. I think I have found one which should work well. On a relatively close lobe seperation, which should help idle quality, this cam still has duration and lift that make about 25 hp over stock. Since I will dgree the cam, I hope to gain an additional 2 or 3 hp over that, which will make up for the losses I have with the stock clutch-type radiator fan.

Now, cam bearings may be an issue- this engine has about 35,000 miles since the rebuild. I'm told however, that if the bearings didn't melt out during break-in, I'm OK as long as no obvious damage has occured to the bearings. New lifter will come with the cam, of course. My concern with all that is that I will have new heads, too, and I may want to use weaker valve springs to break in the cam. I might not have to, but it's something to consider.

I'll be putting in my roller rockers, too, which should free up 5 hp or so just from frictional losses, and maybe another 5 because I can adjust my valves now- the stock valve train is unadjustable- very robust, but limiting.

The cam being worth 25 hp and these re-designed heads being worth around 40-50, this should bring my Bhp to around 400. Torque should stay around 510-520, but peak torque will occur higher in the powerband, maybe at say 2800 rpm instead of the stock 2200. Still a nice flat torque curve.

My only real worry is that my torque converter will not like all this. the stall speed is probably wrong for all these upgrades. We'll see. I need transmission work anyway, this is a good excuse to have it done. I do all the rest of this stuff myself, but a GM tranny like mine needs to be removed from the vehicle and turned upside down for service- little ball bearings which act as check valves in the throttle body will fall out if you don't have it upside down, and then once they are out, you can't put them back in. If I had a lift, I'd do the tranny, but I don't have one.



I just thought I'd add the most off-topic thing I could think of, in great detail, in order to remind anyone who doesn't get it, that this thread wasn't intended as a serious discussion of the merits of various cockpits versus others http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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