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Mike8686
09-04-2004, 05:53 AM
Can the Dora outclimb anything in IL-2? I know most 190s cant outclimb a hot air balloon, but shouldnt the D9 outclimb stuffs? Can it outclimb mustang? If not, can 109(G6/AS) outclimb mustang? Also does it out accelerate anything? Is it smart to spiral climb away from spitty9s in D9? Why do its 20mms suk compared to all of its enemy's 20mms?

Mike8686
09-04-2004, 05:53 AM
Can the Dora outclimb anything in IL-2? I know most 190s cant outclimb a hot air balloon, but shouldnt the D9 outclimb stuffs? Can it outclimb mustang? If not, can 109(G6/AS) outclimb mustang? Also does it out accelerate anything? Is it smart to spiral climb away from spitty9s in D9? Why do its 20mms suk compared to all of its enemy's 20mms?

Mike8686
09-04-2004, 06:34 AM
O and does it outrun mustang or not?

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09-04-2004, 07:01 AM
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Mike8686
09-04-2004, 08:33 AM
*BUMP*

Helpful answers plz?

VW-IceFire
09-04-2004, 09:02 AM
1) The Dora has a very good climb rate but the FW190's weren't know for having massively superior climb rates. They were meerly average to good on the Antons. Despite that, the Dora's low altitude climb rate is fantastic...especially on boost.

2) The Dora has a very good acceleration rate so on a flat out run, the Dora can out run Spitfire IX's with equal or initially less energy.

3) Climb rate is best acheived around 400 kph so its smart in a FW190 to climb then plateau and then climb again building speed in each plateau and then zooming for a better maximum climb rate.

4) The Dora's 20mm cannons are mounted inboard and fire through the propeller. This means they are syncronized and while the implementation of this was very sophisticated it means that the MG151/20 on the Dora has less muzzle velocity/fire rate and therefore does not hit as hard as the Hispano. Also the MG151/20 emphasizes explosive power...which is why sometimes a single blast can sever a La-7's wing or you can shoot at it all day long and not hit the critical areas with the blast effect. This may be a bit weak in the games modeling.

Nonetheless, the higher muzzle velocity 20mm's like the Hispano and ShVAK are easier to aim and achieve hits than with the MG151/20 which drops alot after its initial shot.

I recommend a convergence setting of somewhere between 300 and 350 meters so that you can lob you shells higher to counteract this and improve your aim.

A well aimed blast from a Dora at convergence will tear most aircraft apart or cause enough damage to force them to crash or return to base with no possibility of fighting.

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Mike8686
09-04-2004, 10:07 AM
ty icefire, that was very helpful :]

Mike8686
09-04-2004, 10:55 AM
O, 2 questions remain tho, can it outrun mustang and cn it outclimb mustang? What about Spitty9?

robban75
09-04-2004, 01:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike8686:
O, 2 questions remain tho, can it outrun mustang and cn it outclimb mustang? What about Spitty9?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Below 6000m the D-9 is faster than the Mustang, but not by much. If the Mustang tries to escape by speed alone, you're in for a long chase. A D-9 will outclimb a fully fueled Mustang without effort. With 25% fuel the Mustang climbs much faster but not faster than a D-9. If you need speed at 5000-6000m, then I suggest you use the '44 D-9 it can manage 715-720km/h up there.

The Spitfire IX easily outclimbs the D-9 at any altitude. It even outclimbs the Ta 152 at alt.

The '45 D-9 is slightly undermodelled in climb from ground and up to 3500m, but it's good enough. The D-9 '44 climbs somewhat better and will climb with the Yak-3 and Ki-84.

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"I found the Fw 190D-9 to be greatly superior to those of my opponents. During dogfights at altitudes of between about 10,000 and 24,000ft, usual when meeting the Russians, I found that I could pull the D-9 into a tight turn and still retain my speed advantage. In the descent the Dora-9 picked up speed much more rapidly than the A type; in the dive it could leave the Russian Yak-3 and Yak-9 fighters standing."