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Jenny_B
06-27-2004, 01:07 PM
On the engine pods of the P-38, there seems to be a pair of old Lewis guns, but they don't fire. Are they really Lewis'es, and if so, why don't they fire?

--Jenny

Jenny_B
06-27-2004, 01:07 PM
On the engine pods of the P-38, there seems to be a pair of old Lewis guns, but they don't fire. Are they really Lewis'es, and if so, why don't they fire?

--Jenny

georgeo76
06-27-2004, 01:09 PM
I think those are the superchargers your looking @.

Korolov
06-27-2004, 01:13 PM
Those are the P-38's Turbochargers, for high altitude flight.

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/klv_sigp38shark1a.jpg

georgeo76
06-27-2004, 01:19 PM
Ah, turbochargers eh. Well, I was closehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
BTW Korolov, I like your new Sig.

Korolov
06-27-2004, 01:22 PM
Yup, superchargers would be behind the engine and not nearly as large. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/klv_sigp38shark1a.jpg

DuxCorvan
06-27-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally those were the wells for two R2 droids. Then they decided to put a pair of Spaniards with Lewis guns, but they realised that this would imply excessive force, and after all they were researching A-Bomb in Los Alamos. Finally, they were used as fridges, to keep the drinks cool, and left the Lewis there, well, because they were cool, and that fits with a fridge, mmm? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Korolov
06-27-2004, 06:16 PM
You're forgetting that those paticular Lewis guns weren't liquid cooled, so the drinks ended up much hotter than the drinks equipped on theB-17s.

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/klv_sigp38shark1a.jpg

gombal40
06-27-2004, 06:29 PM
you guy's should leave the glue alone http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WTE_Galway
06-27-2004, 06:31 PM
the B29 had arguably the best drinks fridge of any operational world war II aircraft

Korolov
06-27-2004, 08:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
the B29 had arguably the best drinks fridge of any operational world war II aircraft<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that would be the C-69. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/klv_sigp38shark1a.jpg

BennyMoore
06-27-2004, 09:32 PM
This is a great thread. Thanks, Jenny!

Drinks fridge'... I love it.

WTE_Galway
06-27-2004, 10:34 PM
of course to give the germans credit where it is due the FW190 coffee cup holders were far sturdier than those provided in allied fighters of the day

John_Stag
06-27-2004, 10:46 PM
I'm not surprised; The British favoured tea instead.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Sergeant! Where are you taking those vultures?

Sergeant: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they're responsible for all this, get them to clean it up!

Sergeant: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fehler
06-28-2004, 05:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
of course to give the germans credit where it is due the FW190 coffee cup holders were far sturdier than those provided in allied fighters of the day<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh, yes, but at a cost...

During the development stages of the Ta-152, Kurt Tank had to decide between sturdy coffe cup holders or a secure gunsight. Kurt decided that since Germany's pilots were constantly awake fighting allied bomb raids both day and night, coffee was a necessity. Thus, the bolts that would have been used for the gunsight were utilized for the holder. Kurt realized that the pilots probably wouldnt have been able to hit anything with the Ta's guns anyway, muzzle blast and all, and if they did, the 20mm cannon rounds would have had little effect.

A little known fact, discovered after the war by test pilots, concluded that IF the coffee cup holder had been placed between the pilot's feet, the banana peel slip stall to the right would have been eliminated. (To the right.. the same side as the coffee cup was held!)

So, as you see both stall and gunsight modelling are equally correct in the current version of FB.

As for the Lewis guns.. I think they are really Huey Lewis guns that play really bad music to confuse the enemy.

Oh, one more thought... Some of you ate a lot of paste as children... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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WTE_Galway
06-28-2004, 10:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by John_Stag:
I'm not surprised; The British favoured tea instead.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well the later Merlins did include a tea-maker

p-39driver
06-29-2004, 01:35 AM
You can't fool me!
Those are water "bongs" from hell!

PlaneEater
06-29-2004, 03:29 AM
Believe it or not, my grandpa told me the crew chiefs used to pack the tail booms on his units recon P-38s full of unopened beer, to chill it down.

Aparently they'd have to get themselves bombed after a mission. The enemy must've been too busy blinking and goinging 'whawuzzat'? after the recon planes went zipping overhead 10 feet off the ground on the way home.

Inadaze
06-29-2004, 07:16 AM
The Sunderland Flying boat had a kitchen. Tea and toast anyone?

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