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NCGCarmen
04-19-2004, 10:07 AM
I was wondering if the new Aces expansion was worth the investment, or if I should hold off a month or two till the price goes down? Does it add the Spitfire as a flyable aircraft?

NCGCarmen
04-19-2004, 10:07 AM
I was wondering if the new Aces expansion was worth the investment, or if I should hold off a month or two till the price goes down? Does it add the Spitfire as a flyable aircraft?

Tully__
04-19-2004, 10:09 AM
IMHO it's worth the price. Yes, it adds the spit as flyable.

If you want to fly online it's almost essential, not many left hosting for v1.22

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Locust_
04-19-2004, 10:14 AM
IMHO NO !!!

HELL NO !!!

Not untill its patched all american ac are worse than they were before the p38 is a tub

and the 50cals and the dispursition of such is redicules they cant bring down a pigon let alone an AC...

If you dont want to be disapointed wait till they release a patch for it then ya maybe its worth 30 bucs

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crazyivan1970
04-19-2004, 10:17 AM
Having a bad day there Locust? Tsk tsk tsk....

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TgD Thunderbolt56
04-19-2004, 10:20 AM
Definitely "YES". As Tully said, it's almost essential to have it if you want to go online these days (and will only be moreso after the patch) and the added planes are very well done. It has the Spit, yes, but it also has the Bf110, Gladiator (whose pit you have to see...wow), CR42, and a few other planes that only add to the value that FB already was. There are a few "what-if" planes as well.

You can't go wrong getting it. If the patch is the answer then justify the purchase to yourself by saying You'll only have to wait a short while longer to have it all patched up. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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LeChuck59
04-19-2004, 10:29 AM
Absolutely it is worth it.

As for "the p38 is a tub", there was much talk about the P38's performance when AEP was first released and the general consensus was that the FM was accurate. So while it may be a tub, it's supposed to be. The Spitfire on the other hand is undeniably wonderful and it's only one of several dozen new planes/models. And of course, if you want to fly online at all, you'll need AEP.

S 8
04-19-2004, 10:35 AM
If P38 is a tub I would bath everyday.(I only have a shower http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

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Taylortony
04-19-2004, 10:41 AM
yes well worth it in my opinion as said online playing is now pointing in that direction and future patches will be based on the Aces version, I wish Ubi would update the main site to Add the Aces to it so you can see what is included.. You get 4 spits all variants of the mk V 2 wiith and 2 without wing tips, go to www.il2skins.com (http://www.il2skins.com) select download skins and go down the list of available planes, it will show them all, although some are AI ones like the B17

WUAF_Co_Hero
04-19-2004, 10:42 AM
How many times do we have to go into this Locust? The P-38 is a damned good a/c. Take the Jug for example... it's a "tub", but it can dominate every german a/c except the Ta over 8k... pretty impressive tub, eh?

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tttiger
04-19-2004, 11:20 AM
Locust won the National Spelling Bee six times in a row before he bought AEP. Now look at him...AEP obviously is a dangerous product and should be banned by the government http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes, get it. The Spit and the P-38 are both great additions.

And if you fly on line, it is essential.

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Tully__
04-19-2004, 11:25 AM
Ease up guys, he's entitled to an opinion. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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04-19-2004, 11:35 AM
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Mitlov47
04-19-2004, 12:20 PM
It's awesome! The Spit alone makes it worth it, and the P-63 and P-38 are really fun to fly too.

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Bearcat99
04-19-2004, 12:27 PM
More than worth it. It is essential. The AEP brings FB up to ver 2.0 Ypu wont be able to use any patches if you are not up to date. There are always "issues" but IMO the AEP only improves FB.

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johann_thor
04-19-2004, 12:31 PM
its worth 100€ at least .......

LeadSpitter_
04-19-2004, 12:47 PM
you need it to play online and hopefully things will be fixed very soon to make online play more enjoyable again.

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3.JG51_BigBear
04-19-2004, 12:49 PM
The expansion pack alone is definitely not worth 30 bucks. There are plenty of problems and the new A/C aren't anything I was dieing to fly (I'm still loving the eastern front).

That being said, I'm more than happy to pay the thirty dollars to support Oleg and makes use of the forthcoming patches. Its worth it just to keep up with new fixes and tweaks that Oleg will be adding in the future.

nickdanger3
04-19-2004, 01:01 PM
Think of it this way:

Get to play online with all the AEP servers - $10
Get new planes for both sides esp. P-38 and 109 variants - $10
Send a little money to Oleg/Ubisoft to support the next advancement - $10

There's your cost of admission - totally worth it on all counts.

tsisqua
04-19-2004, 01:13 PM
$30.00 ? Nope.

Its worth HUNDREDS of dollars to me for the entertainment value that I have received already . . . without the consarned patch. Oh, and it will be patched. Everyone that purchased it knew/knows that. It was released with a few problems because it was problem free enough to be worth the money as it was.

The P-38 a tub? Yes Sir, Locust, you are entitled to your opinion, but I am getting more online kills with the P-38 than any other plane that I have ever flown. This tub is as deadly as any other plane in the game, if flown correctly, right Hero?

BTW, good to see you WUAF_Co_Hero. I met you the first day that I flew the Lightning online, and you are the one that taught me to handle her. I owe you a debt of gratitude for training a complete stranger that was not one of your squad-mates. I'd fly with you ANY day!

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LEXX_Luthor
04-19-2004, 01:28 PM
What Bearcat and tsisqua said.

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PF_Coastie
04-19-2004, 01:46 PM
It is absolutely worth it for all the reasons above and yet another VERY BIG reason not mentioned.... NGEN! This is a new online campaign generator that is awesome and will be even better in the future with added campaigns and features.

You must have AEP.

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DONB3397
04-19-2004, 01:51 PM
If you want to fly over Normandy -- for either the LW or the allies -- and do it in the right aircraft...Yes, it's worth it.

If you want to recreate the turmoil over the Ardennes and last stages of the Battle of the Bulge -- and do it in the right planes...Yes, it's worth it.

If you want to fly online and be competitive...Yes, it's worth it.

If "none of the above" apply, well...um...Yes, it's worth it.

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Lawn_Dart
04-19-2004, 03:25 PM
Its worth a LOT more than $30. New aircraft, NGEN, online arenas, FM tweaks and future patches,...plus the opportunity to support this game so future development is more likely. If you want FB to be around for a while, I would say buy the add-on (developers do not support products forever for free, ya know). Each time someone buys the upgrade, it tells UBI that this game is still a worthwhile investment.

Locust_ appears to have a chip on his shoulder, and probably would not be happy with anything he had to pay for. It is interesting that he calls the P38 a "tub", but managed to skin one and use it as his sig...it makes one wonder why a "tub" would be so cherished by him (unless he is just upset about having to finally pay for a new plane instead of getting them handed to him for free as they have been for all these years). I truly believe that he would have still griped about everything even had the expansion been free, but thankfully it was not.

Support Oleg and this game. There is a LOT more free stuff coming in the updates, and without the expansion, you will miss out on it all.

Buy it. You won't be sorry.

swambast
04-19-2004, 05:35 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Tread cautiously, and make sure you're totally informed as to what this expansion provides, and what you might THINK it can do. Is it worth it? I will answer that only by saying this: "What are you looking for?"

Here is my experience, directly from initial interest to where I am now (frustration and disappointment). Just please do your homework!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=713105653

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tsisqua
04-19-2004, 07:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by swambast:
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Tread cautiously, and make sure you're totally informed as to what this expansion provides, and what you might THINK it can do. Is it worth it? I will answer that only by saying this: "What are you looking for?"

Here is my experience, directly from initial interest to where I am now (frustration and disappointment). Just please do your homework!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=713105653

Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Swambast, have you tried Uberdemon's QMB addon? It is 3rd party, but will allow you to select all terrains that were available with FB v1.21, and will soon be updated for AEP.
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xTHRUDx
04-19-2004, 09:32 PM
the expansion pack is practicaly worthless without a dedicated server, if your an online only player like me.

269GA-Veltro
04-20-2004, 02:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NCGCarmen:
I was wondering if the new Aces expansion was worth the investment, or if I should hold off a month or two till the price goes down? Does it add the Spitfire as a flyable aircraft?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bf 110 alone.....worth AEP price!

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WUAF_Co_Hero
04-20-2004, 05:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
$30.00 ? Nope.

Its worth HUNDREDS of dollars to me for the entertainment value that I have received already . . . without the consarned patch. Oh, and it will be patched. Everyone that purchased it knew/knows that. It was released with a few problems because it was problem free enough to be worth the money as it was.

The P-38 a tub? Yes Sir, Locust, you are entitled to your opinion, but I am getting more online kills with the P-38 than any other plane that I have ever flown. This tub is as deadly as any other plane in the game, if flown correctly, right Hero?

BTW, good to see you WUAF_Co_Hero. I met you the first day that I flew the Lightning online, and you are the one that taught me to handle her. I owe you a debt of gratitude for training a complete stranger that was not one of your squad-mates. I'd fly with you ANY day!

Tsisqua

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Ah, I have been come to by so many about the lightning, that I honestly don't recall when it was that I helped you... But I gaurantee you I was more than happy to do it. I think a lot of pilots forget that, instead of whining and complaining... they can always just find someone who "gets it" and see if they can help out. I'm always willing to help pilots online, so long as they are respectful and have an open ear. Clearly you were both of those things m8, and it was more than a pleasure to get you on your feat w/ the "tub" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

And you're most ceartainly welcome to fly w/ me, if you see me online. It's always nice to have more friendlies in lightnings. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Locust_
04-20-2004, 08:25 AM
[This message was edited by Locust_ on Tue April 20 2004 at 07:33 AM.]

[This message was edited by Locust_ on Tue April 20 2004 at 07:43 AM.]

Locust_
04-20-2004, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Locust_:
I can fly the 38 as well as anyone & the jug too

I know how to use them & what there effective at

The p38 as it is ..... is awsome for pounding dirt into mud, like I said the .50cal Gunz are a shame the way there modled...
In all american AC

Unlike some of you I fly all of the ac & the disparagy between gunz modeling is pitiful to say the least....

What good is it to get altitude do everything right use E dive in shoot straight hit target and theres NO EFFECT to bandit ?? Ya thats Nice worth every penny....

Guess you never seen a .50 cal round hit something.

PS sure the 50s will do damage to american ac but shoot a ki84 or an la7 LOL.

Granted I cant say i wouldnt spend 30 bucs on it again, Im just venting about these .50s Im sick of the disparagy between Russian,German & American Ammo.... Russian guns are just plain wicked German hit hard but very inacurate, american hit plenty but with no effect 3/4 of the time.....

Sure if your flying fullreal you can have a field day flying the 38, especialy if your ground pounding

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Locust_
04-20-2004, 08:34 AM
Fighter Sweeps is here come join the fun.....
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SuspectSquirrel
04-20-2004, 10:10 AM
Food or AEP: Food
Shelter or AEP: Shelter
Clothes or AEP: AEP, I can fly naked.
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MurdockSC
04-20-2004, 10:33 AM
I'm tempted to say that I've enjoyed this "add-on" more then the jump between IL2 and FB. With that stated, its worth it. It adds a lot.

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VW-IceFire
04-20-2004, 12:12 PM
Its worth it! For the Spit, the 38, the 63, and the bunch of new aircraft coming in the patch.

So much new stuff! So very worth it.

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ucanfly
04-20-2004, 12:36 PM
Think of it this way - it is less than 1 dollar per aircraft (many of better quality than the original FB set), not to mention new single missions and NGEN, and new FMs and DMs. It is not only worth it, you must get it to share in the future goodies Oleg has in store. Once the patch and ded server is out , 1.22 may go the way of the original IL2.

Supr
04-20-2004, 12:47 PM
After all the fun i've had with this game, and i mean the original Il2 & FB, i'd gladly pay another $30 bucks just too keep playing them. Its been about 2 years of great entertainment and what has it cost you, about 100 dollars if you've bought all 3? Thats a great bargin in my book.

LEBillfish
04-20-2004, 01:19 PM
ack triple post!!

LEBillfish
04-20-2004, 01:19 PM
IL2-Forgotten Battles Ace Expansion Pack....$30.00

Having multiple players throw fits and storm off the server as you shoot their jets and new High performance planes down in a J8 Gladiator......

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LEBillfish
04-20-2004, 01:20 PM
ack double post

vanelvis
04-20-2004, 01:58 PM
yes

swambast
04-20-2004, 02:06 PM
tsisqua,

Yea, no luck with ubermissionquickbuilder. This would probably be my saving grace for this game at this point. I even wrote the author to ask if there were plans to support the AEP, but still no response back yet. Here is the response I wrote in the other thread:

"BBB_Hyperion, I installed the UberQuick Mission Generator and was very intrigued by it. One problem I immediately see, unless I'm overlooking something:

I cannot select ANY of the new flyable planes available with the ACES expansion pack. This means I cannot use this program to get a flyable P51, but can use it to choose a different terrain. Unfortunately, that's like winning only half the battle..."

tsisqua
04-20-2004, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by swambast:
tsisqua,

Yea, no luck with ubermissionquickbuilder. This would probably be my saving grace for this game at this point. I even wrote the author to ask if there were plans to support the AEP, but still no response back yet. Here is the response I wrote in the other thread:

"BBB_Hyperion, I installed the UberQuick Mission Generator and was very intrigued by it. One problem I immediately see, unless I'm overlooking something:

I cannot select ANY of the new flyable planes available with the ACES expansion pack. This means I cannot use this program to get a flyable P51, but can use it to choose a different terrain. Unfortunately, that's like winning only half the battle..."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Swambast,
Have a look at what Dameon is working on. It will be finished VERY soon. :

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=831102143&p=1

Hang in there, and don't leave us yet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


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