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RAF238thKnight
08-12-2004, 04:05 PM
Well here is my hope for patch on PF give me the ability to pitch my guns and set convergence below 100 Meters.

Knight

RAF238thKnight
08-12-2004, 04:05 PM
Well here is my hope for patch on PF give me the ability to pitch my guns and set convergence below 100 Meters.

Knight

Flygflottilj16_Sulan
08-13-2004, 11:24 AM
Would be nice with more settings to the guns indeed, pitch and perhaps even where to have tracer-bullets and not... Could be useful for knowing how much ammo is left

Gravity never looses, the best you can hope for is a draw

triggerhappyfin
08-15-2004, 04:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAF238thKnight:
Well here is my hope for patch on PF give me the ability to pitch my guns and set convergence below 100 Meters.

Knight<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why not magnetic bullets?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

OldMan____
08-15-2004, 06:16 PM
Why the hell would someone want convergence below 100 meters? Closer that that you can hit precisely even with 1000m convergence.

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!

Jazz-Man
08-15-2004, 08:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OldMan____:
Why the hell would someone want convergence below 100 meters? Closer that that you can hit precisely even with 1000m convergence.

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Unless of course your aircraft has wing guns...

Inside 100m it is very difficult to hit anything in the P-51s, P-47s or Spitfires. Especially in the Spitfire where ammunition is at a premium.

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RAF238thKnight
08-16-2004, 06:20 PM
WOW. So you can get a kill at 3280ft or 3/4 of a mile at 350 miles per hour. Your a better shot then most snipers LOL. Sir you must have no concept of the metric system, most american planes were set at 300ft convergence or a little over 100m. Amyway most pilots set there weapons to there style of flying. The magnetic bullet post not even welcome and
I will go no futher with this post. thks to the intelligent responces

Knight

PS Wonder Woman label flyers need not reply.

WWMaxGunz
08-16-2004, 06:32 PM
A sniper with 4+ highpower MG's on full auto. Was the target dodging? Bet not.
Ive seen a screenshot of a 1 hit/1 kill by a Mk 108 at 1.4 km in FB as well.
Does everything happens or told of mean in all situations, all the time? So many
whiners would have me believe so, but only in the ways that bother them, never to
their benefit ever at all. Yes teacher, the .50's ate my homework.


Neal

RAF238thKnight
08-16-2004, 08:47 PM
To Max: Yes possible zoomed in but how realistic is that just look at any gunnery manuel. I have the 1943 RAF manuel and the target distance at that distance is quite good one hit kill shot.

Knight

tfu_iain1
08-17-2004, 10:20 AM
who said they could hit something 1000m away? he said he could hit something at sub 100m range with 1000m convergence... the point being at that range convergence doesnt matter much... that said some RAF pilots in BoB were know to use 100 yard convergence which would be something aroun 85m. even then they were considered foolhardy, even if they were successful.

also, check your arithmatic before you knock other people's understanding of weights and measures... you said 300ft is just over 100m

now theres 3.333 (or 30cm per ft) etc ft per m, so actually 300ft works out as 90m

300ft x 30cm =9000cm /100 =90m

not that it makes much difference, but before you pick holes, make sure you're watertight yourself.


just occured to me as well, surely there were practical limits to the convergence... i mean weapon fittings in wings were tight at the best of times, there must have been a limit to how much you could angle the guns towards the nose before the ammo feeds start interfering with one another?

[This message was edited by tfu_iain1 on Tue August 17 2004 at 09:30 AM.]

RAF238thKnight
08-17-2004, 09:41 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifOK, I was estimating on the distance your splitting hairs. So im 10m short I fly with a convergence of 100m and with il2 manager 4.0 on, its at 75m. Each time my kill ratio has been better at a tighter distances. Now, on the 1000m convergence at 100m you have got to be joking so why bother with any kind of site at all or even have a convergence mark. The objective is to hit what your aiming at and not spray at wings.
If im going in for a kill shot on cockpit or engine or even wing root all my rounds are trying to hit that specific spot. Anyway enough said, the post was about making it more historical by giving each pilot more control over gun convergence and pitch.

Knight