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heywooood
05-01-2004, 07:29 PM
At the Wings over Gillespie airshow in San Diego...
This little fighter looks quite lethal. To all those who doubt the accuracy of its FM?.. sorry, this plane is a badda$$ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

it is very small and light and appears to be highly manoeverable.

Thanks to Gates123.. that was cool meeting you there and talking FB, Greater Green, and warbirds in general.
I will give GG a try when it is up again after the patch..(2weeks) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Chris455 sorry we missed you, they did not have the P47's after all, dammit.

heywooood
05-01-2004, 07:29 PM
At the Wings over Gillespie airshow in San Diego...
This little fighter looks quite lethal. To all those who doubt the accuracy of its FM?.. sorry, this plane is a badda$$ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

it is very small and light and appears to be highly manoeverable.

Thanks to Gates123.. that was cool meeting you there and talking FB, Greater Green, and warbirds in general.
I will give GG a try when it is up again after the patch..(2weeks) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Chris455 sorry we missed you, they did not have the P47's after all, dammit.

Dash_C.
05-01-2004, 09:09 PM
Was it a restoration or a replica?

VW-IceFire
05-01-2004, 09:17 PM
Video or pictures? I've never seen a Russian fighter with my own eyes...just in this game and some old BW pictures!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tmv-sig1.jpg
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VW-IceFire
05-01-2004, 09:24 PM
Hey was it this Yak-3M?

http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/former/yak3.htm

Its really beautiful!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tmv-sig1.jpg
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p1ngu666
05-01-2004, 09:26 PM
what did it sound like?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i found a .wav of r2800 (jug engine) and damn its sweet, up with merlin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
i bet it looked far sleaker than ones we have ingame too

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ElfunkoI
05-01-2004, 10:42 PM
I have pictures of every warbird there. Gonna upload tomorrow. You kooks should have made a post so I could have met you guys, woulda made that $20 entrance fee (me and my girl) more worth it.

Tell you one thing though, there was a sh1tload more planes than the prior 4 years have held.

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LeadSpitter_
05-01-2004, 11:17 PM
notice the hieght of the gunsite http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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crazyivan1970
05-01-2004, 11:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
notice the hieght of the gunsite http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Giganoni
05-02-2004, 12:00 AM
Hey I was there too! I couldn't figure out what type of soviet plane it was, I knew it was a Yak..but It didn't say which one and I didn't get to see it fly. There were a lot of bombers there, but I would have liked to see some Japanese planes. I was surprised to see how big the Avenger was...

Hunde_3.JG51
05-02-2004, 12:10 AM
Saw this one at an airshow last year and it was awesome. For me it was the biggest attraction of the airshow and completely overshadowed the P-51'a and P-47's that were present. This may be because I never see Soviet fighters in person but it was really impressive. The demonstration he performed was not timid by any means and he really pushed the plane hard. I think it was powered by an Allison engine but it is a Yak-9U in all other respects AFAIK.

http://www.yakdemoteam.com/pictures/yak9.gif

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TheGozr
05-02-2004, 01:14 AM
Hunde_3.JG51
yes my friend Jim builted this yak.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
And i will soon share it on a camcorder for you all.

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PlaneEater
05-02-2004, 01:42 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the triangle wings, almost-vertical leading edge on the tail and the forward-slanted rudder make it ugly as sin? (the 3, not the new metal M variant)

"To put it another way, a one second burst of fire from a single .50 cal M2 rigidly mounted aircraft gun shooting at you from 100 yards will put about 10 bullets through the computer screen you are looking at right now."
--Blutarski

There aren't many of them left. They flew these things. They stepped off the earth, into the sky, in a pair of metal wings and a howling, living, fire-breathing beast of war, and they fought.

And they died.

And the least we can do is remember they were heroes.

wayno7777
05-02-2004, 02:16 AM
I saw that Yak 9 last June . It is gorgeous. A P-47 made it also.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/wayno77-Yak9ReadingPa.jpg

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/wayno77-P47DReadingPA.jpg

THe airshow is at the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum at the Reading, PA airport.

"Wir greifen an!"
("We attack!")
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chris455
05-02-2004, 02:33 AM
Hi Heywood,
Yes my friend, sorry we didn't find each other, but all was not lost.
I met (briefly) Julius "Jack' Jacobson, who was present on the Yamamoto shootdown (flying Mitchells' wing) and I also got a signed photo from Hamilton McWhorter, the first F6F Hellcat ace of WWII and spoke with him also. Living legends.
The Yak you speak of is a bada$$ bird, it is also Allison powered (spoke to the pilot last year).
All in all a fun time, too bad we missed each other-
S!

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ElfunkoI
05-02-2004, 05:12 AM
MacWhorter has a book entitled your last statement about him. Got it some years ago, started reading it last summer. It's not bad by any means, its really pretty good, I just haven't had the drive to put in the time yet. Today is the last day, I suggest you go visit Aces Corner and get those books signed.

P.S. Anyone know who was the Me-109 pilot from a few years ago that was in Puma squadron? I breifly spoke to him and would like to get more information on him, his stories were incredible.

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Ugly_Kid
05-02-2004, 05:24 AM
I saw this last year, 100 years of German aviation exhibition. Fw-190 wasn't flightworthy and Bf-109G-6 had busted it's engine...

http://people.freenet.de/hausberg/HPIM0127.JPG

http://people.freenet.de/hausberg/HPIM0157.JPG

Heavy_Weather
05-02-2004, 06:23 AM
thx for the pics

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CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 06:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ugly_Kid:
I saw this last year, 100 years of German aviation exhibition. Fw-190 wasn't flightworthy and Bf-109G-6 had busted it's engine...

http://people.freenet.de/hausberg/HPIM0127.JPG

http://people.freenet.de/hausberg/HPIM0157.JPG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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SeaFireLIV
05-02-2004, 06:37 AM
Wow. That`s neat. I`d love to see ANY WWII aircraft, but it`d be Heaven to see a Russian WWII fighter simply cos you don`t ever expect to. What would make my day would be to see the LA5, and especially the I16, even over the Spitfire http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

In fact if I saw a working I16 I`d steal it and be found desperately trying to take off in it! LOLhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
05-02-2004, 06:52 AM
wow guys nice pics thanks for sharing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.freewebs.com/fightingpumas/
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Korolov
05-02-2004, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Wow. That`s neat. I`d love to see ANY WWII aircraft, but it`d be Heaven to see a Russian WWII fighter simply cos you don`t ever expect to. What would make my day would be to see the LA5, and especially the I16, even over the Spitfire http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

In fact if I saw a working I16 I`d steal it and be found desperately trying to take off in it! LOLhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

SeaFireLIV...
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I know theres a I-16 somewhere in the USA that's still flyable... I think it belonged to someone in New Zealand though. Theres also a flying La-9 in New Zealand.

To everyone else - quit calling it a Yak-9!!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That's a Yak-3 - it'd be a Yak-9 if it had the chin oil cooler.

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/russianregistry/images/la9-828-1.jpg

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

heywooood
05-02-2004, 08:49 AM
Hey all -

Yes it was a Yak 3M re-engined with an allison. Painted as Normandie-Niemen french piloted.. but I dont remember the name of the Ace that flew the original... the airshow pilot says he still lives and is 84 years old and lives in Fla.

Sorry I have no pics.. next year for sure.

To everyone that did attend - sorry I missed you.. next year we will do it right.

Hunde_3.JG51
05-02-2004, 12:14 PM
Yak-9U didn't have chin oil cooler. Here is the site from the people who fly it that says it is a Yak-9U, along with a Yak-3M.

http://www.yakdemoteam.com/airplanes.htm

http://www.militaryartshop.com/prints/bailey/warwolf.jpg

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[This message was edited by Hunde_3.JG51 on Sun May 02 2004 at 11:32 AM.]

Copperhead310th
05-02-2004, 12:31 PM
just a reminder for the guys in the Southeast US that Maxweel AFB here in Montgomery Ala. ius haveing a big Airshow next month. the 60th Aniversery of D-day celebration. big 3 day event & FREE admission! so if you in FLA,Ala,GA, MiSS,TENN or anywhere alse in Dixie make planes to Come. Just look for 2 guys with 310th VFS t-shirts on. that'll be me & Gypsy.
Info Here:
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JarheadEd
05-02-2004, 02:29 PM
Hey I got these back in '99 at Mojave on veterans day. Allison powered yak, but the Zeke was original IIRC.


http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/JarheadEd/yakin_cali.jpg http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/JarheadEd/MojaveZero.jpg

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/JarheadEd/p40.jpg

Whatsmypassword
05-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Here are some pics of original VK-105PF engine with a ShVAK cannon that was used in YAKs

See at http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/engines/vk105pf/index.htm

http://vif2ne.ru/nvi/stuff/Bask/airforce/photos/kobakhidze/vk105pf/vk105pf_4.jpg

ElfunkoI
05-02-2004, 07:34 PM
I'm putting the pics on my computer. Could use two things for help.

1. Util to make jpeg images more compressed unless about 310kb per image is a good size for forum posting.

2. How to access your Cox bandwidth to upload some friggin photos. That $40 better give me some space!

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Korolov
05-02-2004, 10:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
Yak-9U didn't have chin oil cooler. Here is the site from the people who fly it that says it is a Yak-9U, along with a Yak-3M.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yak-9U only in cockpit it seems... Make note that FB models the 9U with the chin oil cooler. But I guess a way to tell the difference between these new ones, the 9 has a cockpit more aft and some struts at the front canopy, while the 3 has a canopy more even with the wing and only two canopy struts.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

LeadSpitter_
05-02-2004, 10:56 PM
it didnt roll like it does in fb i bet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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ElfunkoI
05-02-2004, 11:06 PM
"Na, it was much faster in real life."


What is the one answer you didn't think you'd hear.

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gates123
05-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Yes that Yak-3m was damn impressive and I can understand NOW why it preforms like it does in this sim. I think Oleg got it right.

http://www.flightjournal.com/images/index_photos/gunslinging.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

Whatsmypassword
05-03-2004, 03:15 PM
When Yak 3 was introduced in mid-1944 the Luftwaffe identified it as Yak 11. One LW general wrote in his book that with the arrival of Yak-3 the era of FW-189 came to the end because it had no chances against Yak-3 (FW-189 had chances against La-5FN,LA -7 becuase they were sometimes too fast to catch a supermaneuverable FW-189). Rudel wrote in his memoirs that Yak-9 was the best fighter (he as a fighter pilot by education should be well versed in such matters) but I think he probably mixed up Yak-9 with Yak-3.

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p1ngu666
05-03-2004, 08:29 PM
rudel was stuka pilot?
a 9 had armoured stuff, 3 didnt it seems, so 9 more likely to press attack
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TheGozr
05-03-2004, 08:48 PM
great pics

RIPelliottsmith
05-03-2004, 09:00 PM
Cool pics. The Yak looks elegant from every angle.

I'd love to see a sturmovik in real life. That's top of my list.

LeadSpitter_
05-04-2004, 02:56 AM
just as fragile as any liquid cooled inline, one hit and slow death of no return, seems oleg only makes the stang engine incredibly weak and the earlu 109s

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DaBallz
05-04-2004, 03:18 AM
The Yak-3M is a modified new manufacture yak-3Ua.
The mods include, larger coolant and oil coolers/radiators,
higher blower ratio, enlarged and re-shaped intake
ducting and ram scoop, spray bar aux cooling.

The result is between 1,800 and 2,000 hp from
the Allison engine at sea level.

The Yak-3Ua/yak-3M is lighter than any stock
Yak having never had any millitary equipment
installed.

The mods were done for the airshow circut.
Power to weight is as high as the "Rare bear"
race plane.

The only flight regime the Yak-3M does not
beat a stock P-51 in is flat out speed.

Since the Yak in question has no second stage
supercharger, over 10,000'/2500M it should slow
down in a big way.

The Yak-3M is in no way representative of any
combat Yak. Saying so is like saying "Dago Red"
the record holding P-51 racer is representative
of a combat P-51.....NOT!


one last note, I would like to see the Yak-3M
make a shot at the piston engined time to climb
record, presently held by the Rare Bear.
As I remember it's 91 seconds to 3,000M (11,811 feet).
Let's see Issy's Bf-109K beat that.


Da...

LeadSpitter_
05-04-2004, 03:47 AM
Im not talking about performance, but any inline is equALLY WEAK IF SHOT IN THE COOLING SYSTEM! ASK ANY GROUND CREW OR MECHANIC HERE, 1 SHOT TO THE COOLING SYSTEM IN LIQUID COOLED INLINE ENGINES WILL WRECK THE THING IN A COUPLE MINUTES EVEN ON LOW TROTTLE

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=soc.history.war.world-war-ii

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