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jamieandnici
01-13-2004, 02:50 AM
I'm interested to know whether or not there were/are any accounts high ranking Generals that were shot down by their enemy during World War 2? Axis or Allied?
I've heard and read the famous account of General Yamamoto, but are there any other stories out there on similar themes?
PS I've had a couple of SP campaign missions whereby I've had to destroy a train carrying an important German General travelling to the Eastern Front, but has anyone had an IL2 FB mission where you have had to shoot down ie. a JU52 carrying a General or two?
Any/all accounts greatly appreciated. Thanks.

jamieandnici
01-13-2004, 02:50 AM
I'm interested to know whether or not there were/are any accounts high ranking Generals that were shot down by their enemy during World War 2? Axis or Allied?
I've heard and read the famous account of General Yamamoto, but are there any other stories out there on similar themes?
PS I've had a couple of SP campaign missions whereby I've had to destroy a train carrying an important German General travelling to the Eastern Front, but has anyone had an IL2 FB mission where you have had to shoot down ie. a JU52 carrying a General or two?
Any/all accounts greatly appreciated. Thanks.

BSS_Goat
01-13-2004, 05:23 AM
Heeeyyyyyyyyyy Who's nici? Is she hot?

NegativeGee
01-13-2004, 05:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rhett69:
Heeeyyyyyyyyyy Who's nici? Is she hot?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It maybe his hamster http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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MiloMorai
01-13-2004, 05:57 AM
Brig. Gen. Fredrick W. Castle, Hq 4th BW Dec.24 1944 while flying in a B-17G (44-8444) of the 487th BG. Awarded the CMoH.

He had 29 missions in when he took-off from Lavenham. Over the Liege area they were attacked by 109s and 4 B-17s were quickly shot down with 5 more damaged. Castle's a/c had developed engine trouble and was trying to join the last box. Caslte took over the controls but would not jettison the bombs for fear of hitting friendly troops/civilians below. Another burst of EA fire severed the burning wing and the a/c spun in. Six of the crew survived.

Aaron_GT
01-13-2004, 06:24 AM
I don't know about generals being shot down,
but there are a number of instances of generals being killed in air crashes.

DangerForward
01-13-2004, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jamieandnici:
I'm interested to know whether or not there were/are any accounts high ranking Generals that were shot down by their enemy during World War 2? Axis or Allied?
I've heard and read the famous account of General Yamamoto, but are there any other stories out there on similar themes?
PS I've had a couple of SP campaign missions whereby I've had to destroy a train carrying an important German General travelling to the Eastern Front, but has anyone had an IL2 FB mission where you have had to shoot down ie. a JU52 carrying a General or two?
Any/all accounts greatly appreciated. Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lt. Gen William Gott, commander of the British 8th army was shot down and killed in a transport by the Bf109Fs of JG 27 on August 7, 1942. He was replaced by someone who would become much more famous...Montgomery.

Blutarski2004
01-13-2004, 01:06 PM
IIRC, a German general was shot down in a Fieseler Storch on the N African front.

BLUTARSKI

bazzaah2
01-13-2004, 01:31 PM
though not a general, but an admiral, there's Yamamoto too. Ambushed by a load of p38s afer Jap code was cracked; don't remember the date.

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jensenpark
01-13-2004, 04:43 PM
Wasn't from an aircraft shot down, but Richard Rohmer (Canadian Spitfire pilot who later went on to be a famous author) shot up Rommel's car and badly wounded him...pretty much disabling Rommel for the rest of his war - till he took his own life.

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LEXX_Luthor
01-13-2004, 11:04 PM
Don't recall the name or place, but I had read about Italian AA shooting down an Italian plane carrying an Italian general. Killed.

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Art-J
01-15-2004, 10:16 AM
I've been havin' some account login problems lately, but it's all fixed now and I can drop my 2 cents http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

On 5th January 1943 Brig. Gen. Kenneth Walker, brilliant and experienced officer, participated in a bomb strike against Rabaul, aboard one of B-17s operating from Port Moresby. His boss, Gen. Kenney (C.O. of the 5th AF) ordered him not to risk his life, but he obviously was not the type of "behind-desk-sitting-man". This was not his first raid, but it turned to be the last. Bad luck - his Fortress was shot up by Zeros, It was last seen disappearing in cloudds, smoking badly. No one saw the plane or the crew again. For more info, check this adress:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/wings/part2/03_walker.html

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nixon-fiend.
01-15-2004, 10:24 AM
Not quite shot down but..

Japanese ace saburo sakai(speling?) attacked two unescorted U.S transports in the pacific.. choosing to down one while the other got away..

That other plane contained LBJ!! one-eyed lil' jap coulda stopped vietnam but he chose the 'wrong' plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-15-2004, 10:30 AM
Looks Generals plus B17s are a NO, NO!

DangerForward mentioned the death of Lt Gen Gott. The fighter pilot involved, Emil Claude, says:

"I was leader of the schwarm, and fired on him first. They were flying about 20-30 metres above the ground. They were so secure that they had not even occupied the rear gun pod.
My fire was effective on the engine, and the pilot immediately reduced power in order to land.
After the General`s aircraft had landed, the crew started to jump out of the aircraft, although it was rolling along. Now, Gott did not die through my gunfire, but by jumping out of the rolling plane and breaking his neck".

Hmmm.

JG14_Josf
01-15-2004, 10:54 AM
The War Diary of Hauptmann Helmut Lipfert
ISBN: 0-88740-446-4

On the Black Sea
page 77

6 Staffel's commad post at Bogerovo, a few kilometers from Kerch, was in a small underground shelter. I was sitting with Ogfr. Dautz, who was writing up the report of my victory from that morning, when a telephone rang shrilly. It was the Gruppenkommandeur, Hptm. Barkhorn:
"I have a special assignment for you. This morning signals intelligence has learned that a high-ranking Russian officer is going to visit the bridgehead at about noon today. Take a Rotte and wait over the Strait of Kerch. You are to shoot him down!"

LEXX_Luthor
01-15-2004, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>That other plane contained LBJ!! one-eyed lil' jap coulda stopped vietnam but he chose the 'wrong' plane<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
They would have found another President to goto WAR in Vietnam. Who is They?. Probably the same who bumped off Kennedy. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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