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TheGozr
05-16-2004, 12:21 PM
I went this morning to get CSF3 and Fire Power.
I was very interested to see this game..
Hum hum... i say game not sims.

I AM SO DISAPPOINTED OR maybe it's not the right word i 'm more embarrassed for this Game and addons.
The package is great great looking cd with some good illustrations and pics.

I am speechless! Tir2 doesn't work whit it so far and that alone is already a Major turn off.
The quality of graphics even in High rez is really make me feel to play a 5 or 6 years old game.
The land is a disaster no perspectives , the physics are a joke.

I'm a shame for them, i can't even say " good work to the team"..
There are SOME good effects, fires, engines explosions, great good explosions sounds on back ground, good metallic sounds of guns. But that it nothing more.

Someone must do something.. did someone told them that this game is a fake?
How can they put those pro pilots through this surplice.? poor guys.

All i said it's the best gentle way that i could find to describe this game i really was hoping to find something good.

Il2 AEP is far a head compare to it even if i think that the sound can be BETTER, more explosions effects, ground destructions etc...

the original il2 is already Far better than CFS3.

Voila i did vent.
And my 2c is DON"T spend money on it or maybe yes buy it try it test it for yourself and give it back .

-GOZR
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/IOCompetition.jpg <--Competition Level IL2fb here (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/)

[This message was edited by TheGozr on Sun May 16 2004 at 11:36 AM.]

TheGozr
05-16-2004, 12:21 PM
I went this morning to get CSF3 and Fire Power.
I was very interested to see this game..
Hum hum... i say game not sims.

I AM SO DISAPPOINTED OR maybe it's not the right word i 'm more embarrassed for this Game and addons.
The package is great great looking cd with some good illustrations and pics.

I am speechless! Tir2 doesn't work whit it so far and that alone is already a Major turn off.
The quality of graphics even in High rez is really make me feel to play a 5 or 6 years old game.
The land is a disaster no perspectives , the physics are a joke.

I'm a shame for them, i can't even say " good work to the team"..
There are SOME good effects, fires, engines explosions, great good explosions sounds on back ground, good metallic sounds of guns. But that it nothing more.

Someone must do something.. did someone told them that this game is a fake?
How can they put those pro pilots through this surplice.? poor guys.

All i said it's the best gentle way that i could find to describe this game i really was hoping to find something good.

Il2 AEP is far a head compare to it even if i think that the sound can be BETTER, more explosions effects, ground destructions etc...

the original il2 is already Far better than CFS3.

Voila i did vent.
And my 2c is DON"T spend money on it or maybe yes buy it try it test it for yourself and give it back .

-GOZR
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/IOCompetition.jpg &lt;--Competition Level IL2fb here (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/)

[This message was edited by TheGozr on Sun May 16 2004 at 11:36 AM.]

ucanfly
05-16-2004, 12:32 PM
I/m sorry for the obvious qquestion. You tried Firepower with CFS3 and saw no real imppprovement?

TheGozr
05-16-2004, 12:44 PM
I didn't even tried CFS3 alone i added the fire Power right away.. I think the sound was the improvement since it sound good but the rest?? if you want to fly low like in il2fb to enjoy the scenery and the ground etc.. Forget it it with the M$ game..I'm sorry to talk badly about it but a hudge compagny like M$ and not be able to come out with something flyable it is a joke. We are in 2004 for g^$%$%%^ sake.not 1998!

It's the same effect if you give to a quake 3 gamer the new upcoming Quake 4 but using quake 1 engine with good guns sound..
-GOZR


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http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/IOCompetition.jpg &lt;--Competition Level IL2fb here (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/)

[This message was edited by TheGozr on Sun May 16 2004 at 12:16 PM.]

TooCooL34
05-16-2004, 12:51 PM
M$ should stop fooling us and resume producing FFB stick and concentrate only on this. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

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NegativeGee
05-16-2004, 01:10 PM
Gozr, I hope you can get your money back http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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steve_v
05-16-2004, 01:33 PM
M$ has a 30 day return policy, no questions asked. TheGozr should be able to get his money back, not a store credit, unless there has been a change in policy at M$.

LEXX_Luthor
05-16-2004, 01:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I went this morning to get CSF3 and Fire Power.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Maybe I should change my sig, even the old timers here may be getting the wrong idea from reading it. But I laughed so hard when Bearcat posted that there was a time when he was younger--and less knowledgeable about the Way of Life, that he pre~ordered C3SF, and he couldn't wait. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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"I had actually pre ordered CFS3 and I couldnt wait..." ~Bearcat99
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Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

[This message was edited by LEXX_Luthor on Sun May 16 2004 at 01:04 PM.]

Kneenibbler
05-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Truthfully... the game as it is shipped and even with add-on is unacceptable. That said you can make the game look very good and play well enough to satisfy most simmers. But that takes an ungoddly amount of tweaking, testing, downloading, and general frustrations before you reach that point. Not to mention you still need a powerful computer to run it.

So if you keep the game and have some intestinal fortitude you might enjoy it. Or like most of us you can just file the CD away and chalk it up as bad purchase.

Bearcat99
05-16-2004, 06:04 PM
You got what you deserved. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gifThere have been enough posts here on this forum about just how $hitty CFS3 was/is inspite of all the BS. Did you listen??? Noooooooo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif you had to see for yourself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif. Now you know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif. Fat meat IS greasy,$hit DOES stink, and CFS3 SUCKS!!!!!
Now suck it up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif and get back on Hyperlobby have fun and dont be so blue. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif It could be worse........ In the words of The Cheech & Chong... if it LOOKs like dog$hit and SMELLS like dog $hit and TASTES like dog$hit...then it must be dog****.... dont step in it too.

You already have the Rolls Royce of WW2 flight sims.
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TwistedFemur
05-16-2004, 06:28 PM
But do you think they care? .........I think not.

Maple_Tiger
05-16-2004, 06:37 PM
I feel your pain Gozr.

I even forced myself to fly around for 3 hours, thinking that i might actually like it.

After three hours, i uninstalled CF3 lol.

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SeaFireLIV
05-16-2004, 07:01 PM
Well, I guess that answers my question on Firepower...

While I was waiting for FB I dropped IL2 and got CFS3 primarily for the Campaign and what-if situations. 2 Months later (I really gave it a good go) I ran back to IL2 even though it had no campaign or Spitfire etc. Like I said MANY times CFS3 was a MAJOR dissappointment.

But there is a GOOD thing about CFS3:

It helps people who forget how good FB is to REMEMBER again how LUCKY they are!

SeaFireLIV...



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We`re coming for that Patch ready or not!

609IAP_Recon
05-16-2004, 07:04 PM
the really sad part is if you goto simhq and goto the cfs3 section, they will swear by this game.

Course, if you spend enough time dloading enough 3rd party stuff, you'll have a better single player game, but after all that - good luck finding someone with the same setup to try online.

Salute!

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T_O_A_D
05-16-2004, 09:03 PM
Yep agreed Bearcatt! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif I tried one last time to warn him on his forum, but he didn't listen http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif so then I scolded him for waisting his gas. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif Out where he lives I'm sure its over 2 bucks a gallon by now. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
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LEXX_Luthor
05-16-2004, 09:05 PM
Damn.....Where you did read about 3SCF made good?
Close that CD box forever and don't open anymore!

heywooood
05-16-2004, 09:12 PM
Oh Lexx - dont change you sig ..

yer killin me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Aviar
05-16-2004, 10:00 PM
I have heard that CFS4 has been cancelled. If this is true, it looks like David has slain Goliath again....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aviar

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TheGozr
05-16-2004, 10:01 PM
LEXX_Luthor
yes your sig is exelent lol..

TOAD lol yes i know me BAD.. but i really had to see that for myself and share it.

I went back to the store and they don't refund or credit it back, so tomorrow i'll call Microsoft, i will lets you know what they say. hehehe!

-GOZR
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/IOCompetition.jpg &lt;--Competition Level IL2fb here (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/)

T_O_A_D
05-16-2004, 10:18 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif Your starting to act like a Missourian Seing is believing. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
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Old_Canuck
05-16-2004, 11:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>....I am speechless! Tir2 doesn't work whit it so far and that alone is already a Major turn off...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

==========================================
"Old_Canuck


posted 13-05-04 00:04
Is it TrackIR capable?

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

===========================================

Sorry you wasted your time M8. But as you can see I tried to drop a hint about TrackIR in that cfs3 thread. Don't feel bad ... M$ is doing a great job marketing this "embarassment" but they must be turning off a lot of potential flight simmers IN THE PROCESS.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

tsisqua
05-17-2004, 07:22 AM
See, my friend? You thought that we were just being extremely hard on CFS3, and that it couldn't be that bad. After all, with all the R-and-D resources that M$ has, it would have to be somewhat good!


I am sorry for your experience; They got me too. You are a great guy, Gozr, and have done alot of good things for the community of pilots here . . . The server at HL, the international competitions, the uncensored website . . . I am glad that we didn't lose you to that piece of $hit that MS called "CFS3, The Battle For Europe".


Tsisqua

BaldieJr
05-17-2004, 08:06 AM
Are the plane models in firepower/cfs3 compatible with FS2004? I want some decent warbirds but have only found cfs2 models that have been converted for fs2004.. needless to say, they are freakin ugly.

The military collection from abacus, and Flightdeck III have modern warplanes, but those are some of the most horrible models I've ever seen... I've got a freeware viper that shames them all.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Specs:
More expensive than the dining set.
Less expensive than the couch.
Smaller than the dishwasher.
Just as noisy as the refridgerator.
Faster than the cars' computer.
Less practical than the car.
Face it, people who put thier computer specs in thier signature are pretty ****ing wierd.

</pre>

TAGERT.
05-17-2004, 08:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
I AM SO DISAPPOINTED<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well the the text on the box is any indication.. it has a picture of a Go229 and right under that picture it says

"Ho 229 VS SUPERSONIC Fighter / bomber New Afterburner effect"

Supersonic... Afterburner... It must be true because on the back of the box it says

Using AUTHENTIC MILITARY TEST DATA and combat footage was the design team's primary focus.

Well.. if that is focus.. they better consider glasses... It goes on to say

Under the hood, you will find EVERY aircraft, building, and vehical REACTING PRECISELY as YOU would EXPECT when YOU unleash all of the newly designed weapons.

That is alot of words that say absoultly nothing... But hey... What did you expect from a company that flys a whole sound crew out to recored the sound of the Me262 engines from that newly build Me262 that is authentic in every way to the WWII versions... EXCEPT for the ENGINES!

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NorrisMcWhirter
05-17-2004, 09:54 AM
Hi,

Nonsense - a CFS3 forum reg was telling me that the 1% FMs are much better than anything in Il-2 FB. They'd have to be a serious departure from the stock FMs, that's for sure. Of course, I can't verify this information as CFS3 won't run with my 56.xx drivers. I just get a screen with no textures plus some creaking noises if I yank the stick back.

I only wanted to try out the Mossie, too.

Oh, the gunnery is more realistic in CFS3, too....apparently.

ho hum

Cheers,
Norris

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Chuck_Older
05-17-2004, 10:34 AM
Too bad about Firepower. I didn't have my hopes up.

I bought MS FS2004 yesterday and played around real quick.

Very powerful sim. But cockpits? FB has it all over FS2004, I'm afraid. The virtual cockpits can't compare to almost any FB cockpit, and the 'standard' cockpit is no better than CFS2's. Actually, the virtual cockpit isn't a huge improvement from CFS2's. Why can't the virtual cockpits look as good as FB's??? Why why why.

But the good news for me is that the feeling of flight in FS2004 is about how FB feels to me. In FS2004, the rudder seems 'proper'. Such good news!

Weather is fantastic too.

But what's up with the terrain effect close to ground? And ground objects? Maybe I should play with graphical settings again. But I think I'll like FS2004 a lot.

If the strong points of FS2004 (many!) could get put into a sim, with all the good points of CFS3 (there are some, come on) and FB, we would have one heck of a sim.

I hope it's called "Battle of Britain" by 1C:Maddox games
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BaldieJr
05-17-2004, 10:47 AM
When 1C starts using realistic lighting effects, and stops making cockpits look like caves, thier yak3 may look similar to this (for fs2004)

http://www.captainsim.com/yak3/c_3f.jpg

And a Mig-21, just for fun

http://www.aerol39.com/mig21/sc2f.jpg

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Specs:
More expensive than the dining set.
Less expensive than the couch.
Smaller than the dishwasher.
Just as noisy as the refridgerator.
Faster than the cars' computer.
Less practical than the car.
Face it, people who put thier computer specs in thier signature are pretty ****ing wierd.

</pre>

crazyivan1970
05-17-2004, 10:52 AM
Baldie, i`m sorry dude, but it looks like cartoon lol...

Now this is a cockpit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.vfs-22.net/ivan/grab0003.jpg


V!
Regards,

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

BaldieJr
05-17-2004, 10:56 AM
Compare to FB yak3 cockpit.

The booth look cartoony because 32-bit color can only do so much.

C'mon Ivan, I like FB like the next guy, but a dark blurry cocpit does not mean its more realistic.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Specs:
More expensive than the dining set.
Less expensive than the couch.
Smaller than the dishwasher.
Just as noisy as the refridgerator.
Faster than the cars' computer.
Less practical than the car.
Face it, people who put thier computer specs in thier signature are pretty ****ing wierd.

</pre>

crazyivan1970
05-17-2004, 11:09 AM
I`ll check it out when i get home http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
Regards,

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Chuck_Older
05-17-2004, 12:27 PM
Those FS2004 cockpits look good, but to my eye, the FB cockpit Ivan posted looks more like what I see when I look at something, and the FS2004 'pits look like what I see when I see a computer model that tries to simulate what I see.

Hard to explain, but the FB 'pits have some soft textures where the FS2004 stuff is blurry instead. I must disagree, Baldie: the FS2004 pit colors are blurry and blotchy, not the FB pit. Also, colors that are muted in the FB pit look artificially washed out in the FS2004 pits.

Maybe this analogy will help illustrate what I mean:
The FB pit looks like a color photograph, while the FS2004 pits look like colorized black and whites.

I have to say: the FB pit looks much better. Not that this means the FS2004 pits look bad, but I could never agree that they look more realistic than the FB pit, based on the pics here.

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Or can I hear the echoes from the days of '39?
~ Clash

arcadeace
05-17-2004, 12:52 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Obviously its in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't say cartoonish, but kind of phony how the lighting enhances details. I think FB's is much better.

With its after market creativity FS2004 has thousands of models and I have seen pics of some cockpits that are stunning in realism.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/222_1082457373_222_1082441075_airaces.jpg

Swivet
05-17-2004, 01:45 PM
Yeh it makes a good $40.00 beer coaster! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

w\/é"*

BaldieJr
05-17-2004, 01:55 PM
Ok.

I suspect this will be revisited.


<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Specs:
More expensive than the dining set.
Less expensive than the couch.
Smaller than the dishwasher.
Just as noisy as the refridgerator.
Faster than the cars' computer.
Less practical than the car.
Face it, people who put thier computer specs in thier signature are pretty ****ing wierd.

</pre>

Rebel_Yell_21
05-17-2004, 02:19 PM
This may have since changed, but when I read about Firepower, after getting through all the fine print, there are no damage models for all those new aircraft. Thats amazing. Nothing like watching a perfect aircraft auger in. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

http://www.303rdbga.com/art-ferris-fortress-S.jpg

05-17-2004, 02:30 PM
Oleg certainly found his niche in the market place eh Guys!
As we have seen from the growing number of Noobs crossing over from every other combat flight simulation, clogging the hyper lobby up with servers that use icons (shock horror).
You can take the pilot out of CFS, but can you take CFS out of the pilot (he he)

Olegs product speaks for itself, along with the fanatical world wide following his Sims have generated.

S!

maxim26
05-17-2004, 02:39 PM
BaldieJr, the screenshots of Yak3 you posted are not included in FS2004. Standurd cockpits suck big time.

Yak3 you are talking about is addon, developed by 3d company. I agree, this Yak3 looks amazing. Much better then FB versions. But to have it you need to pay $24. So you have yo pay $50 for the game first and then you have to pay $24 for every decent a/c.

609IAP_Recon
05-17-2004, 02:42 PM
well, who care if it looks good, I mean, my friends hotrod down the street looks sweet - but there is no engine in it.

Let's go a layer deep here, then compare http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Let's start by the online community - last I checked there were 400 people in HL, 8 in CFS3 game browser

Salute!

IV/JG51_Recon

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Rebel_Yell_21
05-17-2004, 02:47 PM
http://www.captainsim.com/yak3/c_3f.jpg

The only thing this cockpit is missing is Spritle and Chim-Chim.

http://www.303rdbga.com/art-ferris-fortress-S.jpg

brasil66
05-17-2004, 03:47 PM
I just bought CFS2 and FP and the game is greatly improved over the initial release. Of course, thats not necessarily saying very much. There are some things to be enjoyed about the game such as effects and (god help me but I like this) opening canopies. Silly though...as you can open a 109 canopy at 250mph and nothing happens. You can do same with all hinged canopies. I dont understand how it is that all the fighters seem to be able to do a complete outside loop. And not just one loop....but loop after loop after loop. The new P40 for instance can do this at 1000 feet.
Sooo...no its not as realistic as IL2 and I truly dont understand how the afficienados prefer it to IL2...but it is playable and entertaining and I'm glad I purchased it. The add-ons are nice...if you can install them correctly AND they dont crash your PC or cause the game not to run at all. I've installed it 4 times now.
I'd give it a 3 or 3.5 out of 5 and recommend it to non- hard core simmers.

ucanfly
05-17-2004, 03:59 PM
Those Captain Sim cockpits look pretty darn good to my eyes. There seems to be more 3D in them than the standard FB cockpit and they are not so dark. Of course for one A/C you pay just as much as a whole addon of 30 new planes (AEP).How many of the cockpit switches and such work? ANyone know?

brasil66
05-17-2004, 09:43 PM
Ucan. As far as I can tell...all the 1% models are freeware and there are many skins as well. I tried some cockpit switches the other night and none of them seemed to function.
Also....the most glaring problem.....lack of damage models on the stock planes. But the 1% seem to have decent models.
If you are willing to forgive a few annoyances...its really a good game for the price now. You can get it very cheap and the Firepower AddOn is only 20US. Very cool to fly in a B17 and man the guns...or a Lanc at night.
If you can pick it up for $20 and dont even get the addon.....heck....its a very good game and the campaign is no doubt superior to IL2.
I only play offline...so can comment on MP. I've really been enjoying playing the game.

RiesenSchnauzer
05-17-2004, 10:07 PM
At a minimum if you are going to try CFS3 you need to install the big patch for the game and put in 3rd party aircraft, especially the 1% stuff. It makes an ok single player game at that point, but I don't have it on my hard drive and FB has been for well over a year now.

I do wish there was more competition in prop flight sims, though. Competition just makes everybody better. It looks like Oleg is going to have a monopoly on the WWII flight sim in the coming years. He does a great job, no doubt, but its nice to have other players in the field. I was actually hoping there would be a CFS4 and they would atone for their sins with CFS3. I guess they decided their flight sims don't make enough money but if you put out something like CFS3 what do you expect?