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jamesdietz
07-26-2004, 10:03 AM
The first book I really took to as a kid was " the Battle of Britain " wriiten by Quentin Reynolds.You might say it got me started on the whole part of my life that has been aviation oriented, although it wasn't quite was advertised & was written for a youthful audience( which was OK - I was onlt 10 years old at the time...)It made the Battle of Britain one of my favorite subject & since then I've bought nearly every BoB book-Title slike "Their finest Hour ,"The Narrow Margin," Fighter"Battle of Britain -Then & Now ",The Few","Piece of Cake"and many others are to be found on my book shelves...Well I just finished what arguably is the best of the lot& I want to recommend it highly with *****!Its titled "Fighter Boys" bt Patrick Bishop( Paperback pub. byHarper Perenial2004) I was lucky enough to pick up a copy whole passing thru Heathrow AP last month.If you have any interest in this Air Battle & you only want to buy one book - get this one! Wonderfully readable with many first person accounts , it is one of the few books that not only describes the day by day , the machines & men of the Battle , but gets into the time , the mood , the mindset of those fighting the battle..Quite amazing in its details ( a very few missteps- but not many)everything from the class old boy system to the music listened to , the pubs & life style led,romances , sudden death & stress,.It deals with prewar RAF , Phoney War , the Battle & its aftermath & effect on the 30% of the pilots who survived the war.Very readable & for non fiction a page turner.If Oleg could only build the stage & mood into the upcoming BoB we'd all be very lucky indeed...I think it could be done too, but oh what a project - to build into a game not only the arcade of combat flying but the sounds , music, sights & rt conversations that would be accurate to time & place,,,WOW! what a time travel trip!
Of course this Book report is meant As Dave Guard so eloquently put it in 1958 " is for those of you who read..."

jamesdietz
07-26-2004, 10:03 AM
The first book I really took to as a kid was " the Battle of Britain " wriiten by Quentin Reynolds.You might say it got me started on the whole part of my life that has been aviation oriented, although it wasn't quite was advertised & was written for a youthful audience( which was OK - I was onlt 10 years old at the time...)It made the Battle of Britain one of my favorite subject & since then I've bought nearly every BoB book-Title slike "Their finest Hour ,"The Narrow Margin," Fighter"Battle of Britain -Then & Now ",The Few","Piece of Cake"and many others are to be found on my book shelves...Well I just finished what arguably is the best of the lot& I want to recommend it highly with *****!Its titled "Fighter Boys" bt Patrick Bishop( Paperback pub. byHarper Perenial2004) I was lucky enough to pick up a copy whole passing thru Heathrow AP last month.If you have any interest in this Air Battle & you only want to buy one book - get this one! Wonderfully readable with many first person accounts , it is one of the few books that not only describes the day by day , the machines & men of the Battle , but gets into the time , the mood , the mindset of those fighting the battle..Quite amazing in its details ( a very few missteps- but not many)everything from the class old boy system to the music listened to , the pubs & life style led,romances , sudden death & stress,.It deals with prewar RAF , Phoney War , the Battle & its aftermath & effect on the 30% of the pilots who survived the war.Very readable & for non fiction a page turner.If Oleg could only build the stage & mood into the upcoming BoB we'd all be very lucky indeed...I think it could be done too, but oh what a project - to build into a game not only the arcade of combat flying but the sounds , music, sights & rt conversations that would be accurate to time & place,,,WOW! what a time travel trip!
Of course this Book report is meant As Dave Guard so eloquently put it in 1958 " is for those of you who read..."

IKG26Redcoat
07-26-2004, 10:59 AM
Yep, read it and it was a good read. Very informative, easy reading and hard to put down. My only quibble with it was that the author constantly refers to the pilots as "the fighter boys" which after a couple of chapters starts sounding pretty gay. But on the whole, an excellent book despite the authors lack of vocabulary. Also Id recommend "First Light" by Geoffrey Wellum, a very human look at a young pilot at the time and "Bader" by Michael G Burns is a good read, (Doug Bader was a bit of a hero of mine as a kid), and for a thorough look at the RAF through the war Id sugest you read " The Right Of The Line " by John Terraine. Probally the best book Ive read about the RAF war years.
Thats all for now from Redcoats book corner, join us next week when I'll be reviewing a collection from the Marquis DeSade, the childrens novel "Bens Big Brown Dog", and "How To Make Big ****off Bombs From Your Supermarket", by Ali Gonnakillemall

There are a lot of people, who say, that bombing can never win a war. Well, my answer to that, is that it has never been tried yet, and we shall see.
Sir Arthur Harris
CinC Bomber Command

LilHorse
07-26-2004, 11:23 AM
Yes, an excellent book. One of my favorites. Definately worth the read for anyone with an interest in the BoB.

F19_Olli72
07-26-2004, 11:36 AM
Highly recommended by me too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/93.gif

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moksha
07-26-2004, 11:39 AM
Anything in it from the German point of view?

IKG26Redcoat
07-26-2004, 11:52 AM
The Right Of The Line " by John Terraine you mean? it talks about the entire european and african airwar, and does touch on german and italian stuff, but its all form the pov of the RAF. I think Galland wrote a book, but I havent read or seen it. The one I really want to read is Fighter Pilot by Paul Richey from No 1 Squadron. Supposed to be excellent.

There are a lot of people, who say, that bombing can never win a war. Well, my answer to that, is that it has never been tried yet, and we shall see.
Sir Arthur Harris
CinC Bomber Command

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-27-2004, 02:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moksha:
Anything in it from the German point of view?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not much A few comments from Galland about Goering being a bit of a pompous ***. But then as the title suggests its predominantly about the british pilots and how fighter command came to be.

An excellent book which I am glad I read.

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jamesdietz
07-28-2004, 09:24 AM
This is for the guy looking for the German side of the Battle :I recommend the "Jadgwaffe books "by Classic Publications in England& in particulat the Battle of Britain series Vol. 2,sections 1-4. The books have many many photos, great well researched color schemes on beautiful computer done profiles ,a good historical context & first person accounts. In this last catagory.... they are probably not as complete as the English side as the casuality rate throughout the war was much higher than on the Allied side & not as many Luftwaffe guys were left to tell their early war stories. Galland is often mentioned as a source ( i.e.: "The First & the Last")and he is a good start point, but he has his limited point of view & shouldn't be taken "whole cloth..." There are several unflattering descriptions of him & his score keeping that are written in these boks that are worth noting.
The whole series of "Jadgwaffe" books ( that will eventually cover the entire war ,)are available thru most Aviation Book sellers,but I've found the best prices thru Squadron Mail Order on this side of the Pond...

Dunkelgrun
07-28-2004, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IKG26Redcoat:
The one I really want to read is Fighter Pilot by Paul Richey from No 1 Squadron. Supposed to be excellent.

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This book is about Battle of France. If you get the modern publication it doesn't have the pilots' names and and other 'senstive' bits of info blanked out as my 1942 Edn has.

For The Battle of Britain read 'Most Dangerous Enemy' by Stephen Bungay; very analytical and very good.
For a pilot's view read 'First Light' by Geoffrey Wellum.
For an oldie but still goodie read 'The Narrow Margin' by Derek Wood & Derek Dempster.
For a real flavour of the battle read 'The Hardest Day' by Alfred Price.

After that, it's up to you! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers!

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XyZspineZyX
07-28-2004, 10:27 AM
I got little reviews on TONS of books:

Stigler's Bookshelf (http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/books.html)

Haven't gotten 'round to Fighter Boys yet, but I'm eyeing it...

Dunkelgrun
07-28-2004, 10:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
I got little reviews on TONS of books:

http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/books.html

Haven't gotten 'round to _Fighter Boys_ yet, but I'm eyeing it...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice idea Stigir. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It never occurred to me to write reviews of what I read, perhaps I should start.
Good site m8.
Cheers!

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JorBR
07-28-2004, 11:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
I got little reviews on TONS of books:

http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/books.html

Haven't gotten 'round to _Fighter Boys_ yet, but I'm eyeing it...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thx for the link Stiglr. Why are you concealing it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ?

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2004, 11:34 AM
Concealing it? I'm not.

I figured it's best to have a link that's descriptive than to have a http:// address that isn't. "Naysayers" is my domain from a band I was in years ago. I never bothered to change it back again after the band broke up. Too much hassle.

[This message was edited by Stiglr on Wed July 28 2004 at 10:43 AM.]