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XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 09:25 AM
Here's a little bit of trivia for you..

Can anyone name all the different types of plane seen on this TV miniseries?

-Hareball

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Message Edited on 06/30/03‚ 06:26PM by Hareball

Message Edited on 06/30/0306:26PM by Hareball

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 09:25 AM
Here's a little bit of trivia for you..

Can anyone name all the different types of plane seen on this TV miniseries?

-Hareball

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We should have all the generalizing extremists taken out and shot.
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Message Edited on 06/30/03‚ 06:26PM by Hareball

Message Edited on 06/30/0306:26PM by Hareball

michapma
06-30-2003, 09:32 AM
Wrong forum, I'm afraid. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-sad.gif I'd like to buy this series, forgot to look for it when I was last Stateside. Haven't seen it yet. I could rent the DVDs, but would rather just save the $$ and own them.

Cheers,
Mike

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XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 09:33 AM
C47 (dc3 ) (bastogne)
P51 (training camp)
P47 (bastogne, just before dc3)

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XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 11:20 AM
michapma wrote:
- Wrong forum, I'm afraid. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-sad.gif I'd like to buy this series,
- forgot to look for it when I was last Stateside.
- Haven't seen it yet. I could rent the DVDs, but
- would rather just save the $$ and own them.
-
- Cheers,
- Mike
-
- http://www.playserver1.com/play247.asp? ( <A HREF=)page=search&adudisc=y" target=_blank>http://www.playserver1.com/play247.asp?page=search&adudisc=y</a>

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Not sure where you're based Mike maybe this will give you an idea of prices,cheers Trumper

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 01:37 PM
episode 1 2 C47
credits P51
P47 they get straffed by thier own side after leaving the ardennes


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michapma
06-30-2003, 02:12 PM
I'm "based" in Zurich, in a non-military sense. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

Thanks. I have to sort out what Switzerland wants to charge me on imported articles. It's ranged from nothing to 50% (of the cost of FB).

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XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 03:02 PM
I know I've seen the series way to many times. Cause you all forgot the plane that appears in episode 1 when they're shipped to England. I believe it's a spit but it makes a very quick appearance.

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XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 05:09 PM
I think thats a hurricane.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 05:32 PM
hi
the sequence where they were dropping into france was
awesome,the flak,damaged planes etc.for cgi it was pretty intense.great show

After it was refeuled i climbed in.With many manipulations the mechcanics started the turbines.I followed their actions with the greatest of interest.The first one started quite easily.the second caught fire.In no time the whole engine was on fire.Luckily as a fighter pilot i was used to getting quickly out of the cockpit.The fire was quickly put out.The second plane caused no trouble - Adolf Galland (first time in a ME262)

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 05:44 PM
You can buy Band of Brothers in Switzerland, there are several stores that carry the series, its also possible to rent it in some stores.

Cheers

DrD

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 05:48 PM
Band o' Brothers is good but Spielberg (spelling?) is not the right guy to do war movies. He has the money and the technology to make it good, but with a decent director and producer it would have been a true classic. It does not engage me on an emotional or cognitive level. Once I have seen it, I do not want to watch it again until I have forgotten it. In about ten years probably.

I still think "The Thin Red Line" is the last word in war movies as it operates on more levels than anything before or since. I want more than just "cool stuff"...but that is just me. Longest Day/ BoB/ 12 o'clock high/ Damnbusters/ et al speak for themselves.

Blimey! How did I get so off-topic? Just shows, once I start I just can't sto *slap* Ouch! Thank you.


Message Edited on 06/30/0305:48PM by Kefuddle

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 05:48 PM
CGI He-111 bombing Bastogne at night.

At least that's what they looked like from memory.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:08 PM
Wasn't there a P-38 zooming around after they parachuted in for Operation Market Garden (but before the battle in the town). Or maybe I'm thinking of "A Bridge Too Far."

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:12 PM
Kefuddle wrote:
- Band o' Brothers is good but Spielberg (spelling?)
- is not the right guy to do war movies. He has the
- money and the technology to make it good, but with a
- decent director and producer it would have been a
- true classic. It does not engage me on an emotional
- or cognitive level. Once I have seen it, I do not
- want to watch it again until I have forgotten it. In
- about ten years probably.
-
- I still think "The Thin Red Line" is the last word
- in war movies as it operates on more levels than
- anything before or since. I want more than just
- "cool stuff"...but that is just me. Longest Day/
- BoB/ 12 o'clock high/ Damnbusters/ et al speak for
- themselves.
-
- Blimey! How did I get so off-topic? Just shows, once
- I start I just can't sto *slap* Ouch! Thank you.
-
-
- Message Edited on 06/30/03‚ 05:48PM by Kefuddle

We went to see the thin red line at the cinema & nearly walked out ,i will have to watch it again just incase it was just that day,but there were 2 of us & we both felt the same about it.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:37 PM
I thought there might have been a CGI Stuka, but I could be misremembering.

By the way, now that we are completely off topic in this thread, I must take issue with Kefuddle's opinion about "Thin Red Line", which I considered a pretentious mess. Personally, I think Spielberg does just fine with war movies...just the right mix of traditional flag-waving and concern about war and its effects on humankind. Thin Red Line seemed more concerned about what happened to trees and birds than what happened to the Japanese and American people being splattered acoss the landscape. If it had stuck to the war scenes, it would have been OK.

More On Topic might be what peoples' opinions of "Enemy at the Gates" might be. I thought it was very evocative of what must have been the hopeless feeling of being trapped between the destructive might of the two most "evil" regimes of recent history. I can't help of thinking about the movie when I play a Stalingrad mission. I'd be particularly interested in what Russians thought of this movie.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:39 PM
"Wasn't there a P-38 zooming around after they parachuted in for Operation Market Garden (but before the battle in the town). Or maybe I'm thinking of "A Bridge Too Far.""

I remember now, it was several Mosquites, and one had a damaged engine, was trailing smoke.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:50 PM
When I was at the WWII weekend in Reading PA I saw Sgt William "Wild Bill" Guarnere. Didn't get a chance to talk to him but saw him being drivin around in a vintage Jeep.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 06:50 PM
Those were B-26s.

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 07:06 PM
LOL .. even with a Completely Worthless site .. the dribble continues /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 03:17 AM
Well you got the P47, P51, C47..

but I swear there was a 109 or 190 that strafed them when they were collecting an air drop near bastogne.. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 03:22 AM
They did get straifed but, it was friendlies that did it. Planes came in. In pairs. Soldiers fired and were ordered to hold fire becuase they were friendlies. They misstaked them for german troops.

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 05:03 AM
Kefuddle wrote:
- Band o' Brothers is good but Spielberg (spelling?)
- is not the right guy to do war movies. He has the
- money and the technology to make it good, but with a
- decent director and producer it would have been a
- true classic. It does not engage me on an emotional
- or cognitive level. Once I have seen it, I do not
- want to watch it again until I have forgotten it. In
- about ten years probably.
-
- I still think "The Thin Red Line" is the last word
- in war movies as it operates on more levels than
- anything before or since. I want more than just
- "cool stuff"...but that is just me. Longest Day/
- BoB/ 12 o'clock high/ Damnbusters/ et al speak for
- themselves.
-
- Blimey! How did I get so off-topic? Just shows, once
- I start I just can't sto *slap* Ouch! Thank you.
-

Well well well. Whats this? Innuendo?

Do you have something you'd like to share Kefuddle? Hrm?

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:13 AM
speilberg did saving private ryan too i thought...one of the greatest war movies of all time...one of the worst was thin red line.

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:29 AM
When was the P-47?

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 08:24 AM
I thought a thin red line was boring as hell ... and although it does cover several area's it doesn't do it for me.


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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 08:29 AM
for the ultimate in WWII movie realism ...


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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 09:04 AM
The P-47 was following the plane that was strafing the paratroopers near bastogne.. and perhaps WAS the plane strafing as well.. I thought it was german, but I guess not.

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michapma
07-01-2003, 01:51 PM
The "Thin Red Line" was difficult for me to follow, because I have it on German video cassette without subtitles and it was just terribly difficult for me to make out a lot of what was said. I even watched it one day when I was home sick and took the trouble to keep rewinding when I missed stuff. Obviously that didn't improve my impression of the movie...


"Enemy at the Gates" is probably not appreciated by many Russians, I think there may even have been some organized protest. I guess it's the political correctness that pervades the film (I doubt many of the character portrayals were very accurate, even if well done for what was intended to be done) and the emphasis on individuals. Some people might have gotten the impression that they were boiling the whole Stalingrad conflict down to a few people, and not liked that. It's not a documentary though, so I personally discount that. Of course, I would have like to see the love story take a less prominent aspect (it didn't feel natural anyway), and I would also like to have seen a grittier Vassili Zaitsev (again the political correctness, he seems semi-reluctant).

There are lots of mixed reviews about this film, do a quick Internet search.

Also have a look here: http://www.stalingrad-info.com/index.htm

Cheers,
Mike

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 02:46 PM
michapma wrote:
- I'm "based" in Zurich, in a non-military sense.


- Thanks. I have to sort out what Switzerland wants to
- charge me on imported articles. It's ranged from
- nothing to 50% (of the cost of FB).
-
- Cheers,
- Mike


LOL...brings back memories.

I just finally picked up Band of Brothers at Best Buy. The price dropped again to $69.00 (It was originally $89.00)



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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 02:46 PM
pdog1 wrote:
- "Wasn't there a P-38 zooming around after they
- parachuted in for Operation Market Garden (but
- before the battle in the town). Or maybe I'm
- thinking of "A Bridge Too Far.""
-
- I remember now, it was several Mosquites, and one
- had a damaged engine, was trailing smoke.



Those were B-26 Marauders that flew over them when they were in the ditch on the side of the road in Holland.

One of the trailers had an engine going out.



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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:19 PM
trumper wrote:
-
- We went to see the thin red line at the cinema &
- nearly walked out ,i will have to watch it again
- just incase it was just that day,but there were 2 of
- us & we both felt the same about it.
-

Yes, I have to agree, not many people did not like "The Thin Red Line". One of my mates said he walked out on it too. However, the people (or should I say person) I have spoken to who did like it, were (was) pretty bloody enthusiastic as I am about it. Strange init?

Guess I am just a strange wierd kind of guy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif|

S!



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Message Edited on 07/01/0307:20PM by Kefuddle

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:27 PM
thin red line had to be the worst war movie i ever seen and i have over 100 in my collection from present day to the 50s

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 08:56 PM
Are they ever gonna show it again on HBO???



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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:12 PM
the boxset has dropped in price significantly, when it first came out it cost me around $100 and I'm pretty sure I saw it for under $80 the other day.

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:16 PM
$79.99 VHS @BestBuy
$89.99 DVD @BestBuy
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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 10:36 PM
I don't know if you were joking about Kelly's Heroes, but I like that movie. I know it's not at all realistic, but it has funny parts to it, and the story line is decent.