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Jumoschwanz
07-23-2004, 09:55 AM
I did something I felt bad about online.

After going around and around and around with what looked like a yak 1b, which was not really easy being in a 109 with gunpods, I had part of his rudder off, he was smoking slightly, and his flight path had straightened out signalling he had lost some control. I was setting up what I thought was going to be the last pass on it when out of nowhere another 109 swoops on it, gives it a single short hit with a twenty, and the yak bursts into flames and falls into the woods.
What made me feel bad was I then typed into the chat bar; "Thanks!", "did I look like I needed help?". The poor guy in the 109 apologized. I then said that I apologize to him for losing my cool, if I ever had any in the first place.
I have been on a number of great servers over the years full of comraderie. And nothing ruins the mood of a server more than **** like I typed, or any kind of whining or bickering. I have done my share of this over the last two and a half years on HL. I like to think I have got a lot better at keeping my mouth shut and talking with the stick and rudder. But still I see myself occasionally do stupid $hit like this. I am hoping that because I was aware of my mistake almost as it was coming out of me that there is some change trying to happen, we will see.
This ego thing I have, this overused sense of self that causes trouble in this small part of my life, flight simulators, is also what gets us damn humans into trouble in the big parts of our lives too. From marriages to international relations. Blah blah blah.

On yeah, I also shot one of my teamates off the tail of a Lagg3 and then got into a tussle with the Lagg and ended up eating some trees.It was a full real/no icons winter map, some planes did not have markings and we were all white.
Plus having my 56k a$$ time-out again and getting kicked.

But in the end I had fun and was glad I could be there in the midst of some of the best online players in the history of this sim. Always a good time. Just think how great it will be next time when I talk only with my stick and rudder, and I won't shoot down any friendlies right?

Jumoschwanz

Jumoschwanz
07-23-2004, 09:55 AM
I did something I felt bad about online.

After going around and around and around with what looked like a yak 1b, which was not really easy being in a 109 with gunpods, I had part of his rudder off, he was smoking slightly, and his flight path had straightened out signalling he had lost some control. I was setting up what I thought was going to be the last pass on it when out of nowhere another 109 swoops on it, gives it a single short hit with a twenty, and the yak bursts into flames and falls into the woods.
What made me feel bad was I then typed into the chat bar; "Thanks!", "did I look like I needed help?". The poor guy in the 109 apologized. I then said that I apologize to him for losing my cool, if I ever had any in the first place.
I have been on a number of great servers over the years full of comraderie. And nothing ruins the mood of a server more than **** like I typed, or any kind of whining or bickering. I have done my share of this over the last two and a half years on HL. I like to think I have got a lot better at keeping my mouth shut and talking with the stick and rudder. But still I see myself occasionally do stupid $hit like this. I am hoping that because I was aware of my mistake almost as it was coming out of me that there is some change trying to happen, we will see.
This ego thing I have, this overused sense of self that causes trouble in this small part of my life, flight simulators, is also what gets us damn humans into trouble in the big parts of our lives too. From marriages to international relations. Blah blah blah.

On yeah, I also shot one of my teamates off the tail of a Lagg3 and then got into a tussle with the Lagg and ended up eating some trees.It was a full real/no icons winter map, some planes did not have markings and we were all white.
Plus having my 56k a$$ time-out again and getting kicked.

But in the end I had fun and was glad I could be there in the midst of some of the best online players in the history of this sim. Always a good time. Just think how great it will be next time when I talk only with my stick and rudder, and I won't shoot down any friendlies right?

Jumoschwanz

crazyivan1970
07-23-2004, 10:35 AM
Great story J, Is that from last night mate?

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georgeo76
07-23-2004, 10:47 AM
We all get frustrated, but you apologized on the spot, and that was good of you.

I shot a friendly too. Maj Death was pretty cordial about it, only responding w/ a quick "check fire". I felt pretty stupid, mistaking a Fw190 for a Lagg, but Maj Death got back home OK, I was docked my 300pts, and I hope there are no hard feelings.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> But in the end I had fun and was glad I could be there in the midst of some of the best online players in the history of this sim. Always a good time.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

couldn't agree w/ you more. VFC*Host draws some of the best pilots on HL. And I'm not just talking about skill, although they've got that to spare.

HART_dreyer
07-23-2004, 10:59 AM
I don't think your comments were unreasonable at all.

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horseback
07-23-2004, 10:59 AM
Don't feel too bad, Jumo, that sort of thing has led to more than one a$$kicking behind the "O" club in RL. A mild rebuke might save the offender a sharper reply later, if he truly repents and changes his ways.

There are few things more frustrating than expending your time and ammo so some sharpshooter can slide in past you at the last moment and snag the kill credit. I can't count the numbers of AI who have died at my hands for kind of behavior. You were more restrained than most would be.

cheers

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Atomic_Marten
07-23-2004, 11:37 AM
Yes. Interesting. To me all that things about killstealing is just very funny. I don't think that "killstealing" term is existing anyway, like some ppl thinks. And if it is, I'm telling u guys if I have ideal postion for attack and someone else expedite quick BnZ and destroy enemy A/C I wouldn't mind.

On the contrary, I would say thanks or S! to him(like I did). Without any hidden thoughts. When u play dogfight server you can decide to fly blue or red. If it is something that have to count(besides pure fun anyway), that is how many kills red have against blue, and vice-versa. Anything else is just hurt egoes. You describe that just fine Jumoschwanz and S! to you for that. This is only a game... and the only thing that's bothers me is my low connection speed.

Jumoschwanz
07-23-2004, 12:04 PM
Yes it was VFC dogfight server, always smooth.

And on the subject, for all I should have known, the guy did not know that I was around. IT is easy in the heat of battle to zoom into a furball, pick out a target in a split second and then zoom out. It was wrong of me to assume I was the center of the server and everyone was watching "Jumo the Great" in his epic(to him) battles. It really is the best policy for me to keep a clamp on it unless I have something to say that will make poeple feel good. If later on after I cool off there is a real issue to address, then I guess this is the place for it huh?

S!

Jumoschwanz

Tully__
07-23-2004, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
...If later on after I cool off there is a real issue to address, then I guess this is the place for it huh? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For general issues maybe....for 1 on 1 issues, private topic or email is better http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

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Zayets
07-23-2004, 12:33 PM
Since Jesus there's no fairness in the life.
Don't bother too much.I know that I wouldn't.

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FRAGAL
07-23-2004, 01:11 PM
I know how u must have felt jumo, u get all that damage on another plane ur hyped up after a good chase ur sure this is the one he's gonna go down then all of a sudden another plane swoops in front of you and takes off his wing bang their kill, after u've done all the work u think u f******* w*****, i have to admit i have done it a few times myself but only by accident and apologised immediately, but i have lost my rag occaionally and gone off on one when it happens to me i think it's truly one of the worst acts that can occur online, it's just so frustrating and off putting

NORAD_prowlr_UK
07-23-2004, 01:18 PM
I have made a few df maps lately and i have started adding rules about kill stealing.
This is more for other people who join my games than myself, i do also see the other point of view regarding points.

Da_Godfatha
07-23-2004, 01:28 PM
Question to you server guys out there;

Why can't they both get a 'half-kill' credit just like in real life?

As long as I don't get wacked by Friendly-Fire, I really don't care. We are on the same side after all.

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Korolov
07-23-2004, 01:29 PM
Kill stealing is part of the game - don't use it to keep score. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

If I've managed to seriously damage a opponent or target, and know he's going down, there's always someone who will try to put the last bullet in. That's OK with me, draws fire away from me and into the guy that's shooting. Most of all, I still got the kill because I was the one who worked for it. Doesn't matter if I've got the point to prove it - if you want points, get a Ju-87 or a IL-2 and start dropping bombs.

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MOH_SKID.
07-23-2004, 01:44 PM
All in all, it was a good time on CrazyIvan's server. Those furballs were great! I look forward to returning.

S~
Skid

Atomic_Marten
07-23-2004, 02:58 PM
That's the reasons why I'm not such great fun of dogfight servers. I prefer Coop's, something with a goal to achieve, protect the bombers and that sort of things. Pure dogfight brings me back in times when I liked Unreal Tournament so much (BTW I still like it but not as much as before). Hm... guess coops are not so popular. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

609IAP_Recon
07-23-2004, 03:32 PM
Thanks Jumo - I have been quick of tongue as well at times, and later I realize that this game has this both wonderful and aweful way of really pulling you into it emotionally http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's quite an intense environment at times and is a good test of character.

Atomic, it's mostly because it's easier to just hop in a df server than sit around in HL forever waiting for a coop to start that has settings each person enjoys.

I agree Korolov - personally, I'd cause someone's score to reset when they die or are captured - would make a score more reflective - rather than this flying with no concern for dying http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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