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pres_
09-07-2004, 09:06 PM
I've been flying for about two weeks now online and a couple of days it dawned on me where I was going wrong with my B'n'Z - I was descending at a shallow angle from too far away. This is not the way to go, take it from me. I end up pretty much not zooming once I get to my target and in the horizontal people are much more aware and mobile. I never get back anywhere near my alt and am usually plagued with dudes on my six. I am shot down.

In the back of my mind I knew that a more vertical attack was the way to go and I set out to try it last night in the old FW190A5. I spent the extra time getting more directly above my opponent and this really was the key. I spied action near the deck and all looked well, I closed the throttle and dropped. As things grew clearer I realised I had a good chance at one target in particular, a P-39 as it turned out. I couldn't believe how well things were going and I even kept cool enough to be *on target* with my guns. I let them rip and eased up to extend and I was so zooming, what a mighty extend it would be. Verily, I was screeching up with 730km/s under my belt at the bottom of my arc.

What an extend it was for my one-winged fuselage. I hurtled at least a km. But every cloud has a silver lining. The track showed three good 151/20 hits, plus some MG no doubt, giving that P-39 the fuel leak it so richly deserved.

For now I consider that a victory and a lesson learned : even the mighty divers in this game can be taken beyond their limits.

pres_
09-07-2004, 09:06 PM
I've been flying for about two weeks now online and a couple of days it dawned on me where I was going wrong with my B'n'Z - I was descending at a shallow angle from too far away. This is not the way to go, take it from me. I end up pretty much not zooming once I get to my target and in the horizontal people are much more aware and mobile. I never get back anywhere near my alt and am usually plagued with dudes on my six. I am shot down.

In the back of my mind I knew that a more vertical attack was the way to go and I set out to try it last night in the old FW190A5. I spent the extra time getting more directly above my opponent and this really was the key. I spied action near the deck and all looked well, I closed the throttle and dropped. As things grew clearer I realised I had a good chance at one target in particular, a P-39 as it turned out. I couldn't believe how well things were going and I even kept cool enough to be *on target* with my guns. I let them rip and eased up to extend and I was so zooming, what a mighty extend it would be. Verily, I was screeching up with 730km/s under my belt at the bottom of my arc.

What an extend it was for my one-winged fuselage. I hurtled at least a km. But every cloud has a silver lining. The track showed three good 151/20 hits, plus some MG no doubt, giving that P-39 the fuel leak it so richly deserved.

For now I consider that a victory and a lesson learned : even the mighty divers in this game can be taken beyond their limits.

p1ngu666
09-07-2004, 10:01 PM
um fly the a6, same fm but the cannons are all the same.
u might wanna try a steep dive, but aim to be 300m or so behind the target when u level off to be on the guys 6 then blast away.

oh u probably broke wing by being to quick movin your stick.

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pres_
09-07-2004, 10:06 PM
Well he was on the deck and I was perhaps a bit rough on the pull back, lest the ground smite me. I'd heard the FW was a great turner at high speed and I did go for it a bit with this in mind. Maybe I should have pulled out combat flaps instead? Or is that asking for a jam?

p1ngu666
09-07-2004, 10:58 PM
u cant jam em.
your the pilot, u make the disionons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, easy to pull back too quick, i do it a fair amount
the aproach i describe is better for on the deck fighting, in a rough genralisation.

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WTE_Galway
09-08-2004, 12:41 AM
ease back on the stick .. you only need to get to straight and level initially as your speed will get you out of danger from his fire .. then start to climb again once it is safe to do so

also remember that zoom and boom does not necessarily require swooping from 8000 metres on a scud-running target dodging trees http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WOLFMondo
09-08-2004, 01:07 AM
Your doing better than I did. I never had problems with not having enough speed. Usually to much speed, the ground got in my way sometimes, the other plane got in my way sometimes, the wings would occasionally fall off etc. Took me ages to get it right and even now its 50/50 if I'll actually hit what im aiming for and give it some damage thats not laughable. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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JV44Rall
09-08-2004, 05:41 PM
Nicely done. I'm a little nervous about vertical attacks - it's easy to miss the target and hit the ground.

Plus, you blow a lot of energy making that 90-120 degree turning back towards heaven.

I prefer around a 30-degree attack, which gives you good speed, good lateral control and then allows a you to maintain your E as you climb up at about 30 degrees (only a 60 degree angle).

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OldMan____
09-08-2004, 06:53 PM
Go reaaly easy with stick. FW190 has the strongest elevator response at high speed from all planes in FB. So be GENTLE.. no no. MUCH more gentle!!! It can go out of 730 kph dives easy .. really easy. Just.. don ram stick.

I indeed preffer shalow dives.. they give you more time and also deceive your enemy of your real state of energy.

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!

Resident_Jock
09-08-2004, 08:56 PM
Remember not to dive in a slashing attack through a plane's patch at low alt. Come in slightly behind them so that you have time to shoot, make your damage and roll up and away. Remember to stay out of their gunsight because sometimes they like to zoom climb and tag you if you didn't finish them off. I use the P47 right now, and it's great for boom and zoom. Like others have been saying, use smooth and gentle adjustments. The objective is to keep your plane in one piece, not to black out, and to not bleed energy. If you see you are coming in too fast or at a wierd angle, then don't try to make the shot happen. Break off and try again. Boom and Zoom is about patience, remember that you control the fight when you control the high ground!

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BlakJakOfSpades
09-08-2004, 11:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OldMan____:
Go reaaly easy with stick. FW190 has the strongest elevator response at high speed from all planes in FB. So be GENTLE.. no no. MUCH more gentle!!! It can go out of 730 kph dives easy .. really easy. Just.. don ram stick..........If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol doesn't go with the philosophy in ur sig

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Friendly_flyer
09-08-2004, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the well written story Pres! You had me laughing for a good minute!

Fly friendly!

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