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DaBone_1
03-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Hey guys,
Been thinkin about getting Track IR 2. But $130 is alot of money for me right now.

Just, wondering about all those other traking devices (free or almost) out there.
Which ones if any or worth the effort?
Is there some that are good?
Thanks in Advance
DaBone

DaBone_1
03-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Hey guys,
Been thinkin about getting Track IR 2. But $130 is alot of money for me right now.

Just, wondering about all those other traking devices (free or almost) out there.
Which ones if any or worth the effort?
Is there some that are good?
Thanks in Advance
DaBone

SeaFireLIV
03-09-2004, 03:29 PM
I use mouseview. Basically I use the mouse in my left hand as my head view. The left, right and middle3 button are my RANGE views (near, middle, far) and the mouse wheel uses the throttle.

Anyway, the mouse is the closest I can get to quick view access when I need it. I can keep track of multiple bogeys at once.

I have a function left on my hatswitch that allows me to switch immediately to forward view at a push.

Disadvantage: takes a couple of days to get used to using left hand with mouse depends how often you fly.

Advantage: Makes you feel your ambidextrous! Next best thing to TIR.

Just what I do.... You`ll hear many other opinions.

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DaBone_1
03-09-2004, 03:35 PM
Thanks, sounds good but I have a x45 so I have both hands full.
So, I really would like something that tracks head movement.
Thanks though
Dabone

Z1stDan
03-09-2004, 03:35 PM
The easiest one that I use is joy to key. Get on Google and search for joy to key and I think the first listing is the english version of joy to key. Download it to my documents, create a desk top short cut. It will allow you to set your mouse functions to the hat switch which allows you to pan smoothly like the mouse would do in the game. What you do is click on the desk top short cut before getting into game or on line. When the panel comes up just minimize it to your icon tray and walla!. Before that you have to go into the panel and set up your hat switch to act like the mouse.

adlabs6
03-09-2004, 03:42 PM
If you've got an X45, you can already map your mouse to a hat using the profiler. I have a profile at my webpage (link in sig) that shows how its done.

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Z1stDan
03-09-2004, 03:45 PM
Oops Sorry! Try joytokey on Google (all one word) and then its the 1st listing.

Bull_Pup
03-09-2004, 06:12 PM
http://www.freelook.org/

http://www.mousevision.com/

The x45 can also map mouselook to the thumb button mouse hat on the throttle in addition to the manner Dan mentioned.

Im using TrackIR2 and its awesome. Head tracking is the only way to fly for me, I love it.

Not a huge savings, but there is a TIR2 ad banner at netwings.com which provides a $15.00 discount. Prob wont help you though but I thought I would mention it.

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-09-2004, 06:54 PM
I have TrackIR1 and I cannot imagine flying without it anymore. If I forget and start a game without starting my TIR, I just can't do it anymore. Or rather it "feels" so awkward, like my neck is in a brace or something.

I have Joytokey also, but have never set it up. Don't need to.



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Bull_Pup
03-09-2004, 07:06 PM
after flying with tir2 I remapped my hat to other functions.

That hatswitch just seems like the perfect place to put the K-14 controls. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DaBone_1
03-09-2004, 07:47 PM
Ok , thanks guys, I might just start saving up for Tir2!
Sounds good
DaBone

jamesdietz
03-09-2004, 09:07 PM
Track IR2 is just so good - I can't even think how I played this game brfore I got it!

ptthome
03-10-2004, 05:36 AM
I've used both cam2pan and freelook. They both work well - freelook is easier to set up at the begining - but cannot be tuned as accurately to taste.
So go buy a cheap $10 webcam - download the software and make it work. Then think what you can do with the rest of the $130 you haven't got.

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Extreme_One
03-10-2004, 05:44 AM
I bought a used TrackIR and it's AMAZING!!! (Thanks Alex) Maybe there are others out there...

If TrackIR2 is an improvement then it must be absolutley AWESOME!!!

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Black Sheep
03-10-2004, 06:31 AM
I assume that the Track IR device allows you to pan right round to the limits of cockpit - i.e. right back over your shoulder to see what's on your six, etc ?

I must admit I'm seriously thinking of buying one of these as it sounds as though it really opens up the sim...

Edit:spelling.

FlyingNutcase
03-11-2004, 01:11 AM
Hi there DaBone,

If there's one purchase you'll never be unhappy with it's buying a TrackIR2. The guys at eDimensional have a come up with a real winner and they deserve every cent.

In terms of views, you see exactly the same as when using the mouse to pan. You can't see your six o'clock without turning a bit, as usual.

I now use my hat-switch for field-of-view settings.

Save your money me ol' friend. You'll be pleased you did.

Nutcase

269GA-Maxmars
03-11-2004, 01:19 AM
I am using cam2pan too.

Please note that lately they released a new version which can operate with greater precision, and in emulation of TrackIR's absolute mode, as opposed to emulating mouse movements.

This brings at least two great advantages:

1) You don't need to center it anymore! Yay!

2) When you fire up the map in game, moving your head will still move the view. Precedently, since cam2pan emulated mouse movements, once you brought up the map your head was only moving mouse pointer.

Having some joy buttons freed up isn't half bad, mind you.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RaiderSix
03-11-2004, 01:29 AM
It's posts like this that inspired me to buy Trackir2. I've had it for about 2 weeks now and still can't find a happy medium in setting it up. I've downloaded 2 different profiles made for this game. One of them is pretty good about recentering and not bouncing around when looking forward, but I can't see aft of the wings unless I lean to the side. With the other profile I could see back to the rear stabilizers, but it was totally useless when trying to take off, land, or track a target while looking forward. It also had a major habit of NOT recentering when I returned my gaze forward. I wish I could learn to love Trackir as much as you guys, but I have just about run out of patience with it. In fact, I can't play a game with it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from buying and enjoying it though.

IAFS_Painter
03-11-2004, 01:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bull_Pup:
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Not a huge savings, but there is a TIR2 ad banner at netwings.com which provides a $15.00 discount. Prob wont help you though but I thought I would mention it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the heads up on discount - that was (just) enough to grab me (what do I tell the wife?)

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EldOVed
03-11-2004, 04:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Thanks for the heads up on discount - that was (just) enough to grab me (what do I tell the wife?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It doesn't matter, she will hate it, and you anyway. Then you will be kicked and banned from her server of joy.

IAFS_Painter
03-11-2004, 06:10 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
May be I better cancel the order ...

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TgD Thunderbolt56
03-11-2004, 06:37 AM
Raidersix, hang in there. I had similar issues when I first got mine. After a frustrating initial experience, i unplugged it and thought about selling it. A couple months later I decided to give it another go. I made my own reflective tracking device (see TOAD's thread re:TIR) and stuck with it. My version is TIR1 and it is absolutely one of the most immersive, convenient controllers I've ever had for flight sims.

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willyvic
04-07-2004, 09:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Z1stDan:
The easiest one that I use is joy to key. Get on Google and search for joy to key and I think the first listing is the english version of joy to key. Download it to my documents, create a desk top short cut. It will allow you to set your mouse functions to the hat switch which allows you to pan smoothly like the mouse would do in the game. What you do is click on the desk top short cut before getting into game or on line. When the panel comes up just minimize it to your icon tray and walla!. Before that you have to go into the panel and set up your hat switch to act like the mouse.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about a sample of how you set it up? Can't seem to figure the bugger out. Thanks.

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Bearcat99
04-08-2004, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bull_Pup:
after flying with tir2 I remapped my hat to other functions.

That hatswitch just seems like the perfect place to put the K-14 controls. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats where I have mine.... I use the hat on my FFB stick... by going to mode 3 and pressing my black button on my X45 throttle which is mappred as the alt key in mode 3 I can adjust my K-14.

I am seriously considering TIR2. I had TIR 1 but i sent it back. Couldnt justify the expense.

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